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    Quote Originally Posted by Fijiandoce View Post
    ****ing gutted Brawn is leaving Mercedes....Paddy Lowe better not **** up the foundations he's put in place. #swearquotareached
    Well Mercedes are trying their best to keep him on but unless he can still take charge of team I don't think it will happen, It will be a massive loss to them if he does leave!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffman1986 View Post
    Well Mercedes are trying their best to keep him on but unless he can still take charge of team I don't think it will happen, It will be a massive loss to them if he does leave!
    Indeed. losing Ross is a significant blow, look at how far he's built the team. they've grown year on year (reliability issues last year aside).

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24725406

    granted, Paddy Lowe is an unknown quantity. he could carry the torch admirably. i suppose he should at least be given a chance.

    Looks like neither Schumacher nor Brawn got a chance to repeat their former success, it looked like they had a chance of doing so though, they were headed in the right direction.
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    Hasn't been confirmed that he is defo leaving yet, i hope he doesnt......more for Lewis's sake than anyone elses! (yes im selfish)

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    Who knows, I think that unless he controls the team he will go and Honda will welcome his talent and experience with welcome arms!
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    Quote Originally Posted by three3-times View Post
    Hasn't been confirmed that he is defo leaving yet, i hope he doesnt......more for Lewis's sake than anyone elses! (yes im selfish)
    You and me both 33x!
    Quote Originally Posted by Duffman1986 View Post
    Who knows, I think that unless he controls the team he will go and Honda will welcome his talent and experience with welcome arms!
    yeah, i think it was at japan where he said "if he's not in control then he wont be happy". whereas mercedes are saying that they want spilt powers etc....chances aren't looking too great
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fijiandoce View Post
    yeah, i think it was at japan where he said "if he's not in control then he wont be happy". whereas mercedes are saying that they want spilt powers etc....chances aren't looking too great
    Mercedes loss, Honda's massive gain (if he 100% goes to Honda)
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    From last December....

    Quote Originally Posted by Completely Average View Post
    I don't see why not.

    McLaren lack a driver that can consistently push Vettel in an equal car. Button is good when his car is superior, but he's a mid pack driver when it's not. Perez.... he may be great one day, but he lacks experience and maturity as a driver.

    Ferrari would have to pull off some amazing car development, something which they haven't been able to do since Rory Byrne left. They won't be able to rely on luck as much as they did this year. Were it not for a string of events like McLaren's horrible pitstops, Red Bulls alternator failures, and cars ahead of him crashing out, Alonso would have finished behind Hamilton, possibly behind Button.

    Everyone knows Weber is the 2nd driver at Red Bull, and that isn't going to change.

    So, unless something really incredible like the 2009 Brawn happens, Vettel should have an easy time of things next year.
    http://www.psu.com/forums/showthread...=1#post5983102


    And then in preseason testing in March...

    Quote Originally Posted by Completely Average View Post
    I'm more concerned with the Mercedes reliability. Two failures in pre-season testing, two mechanical failures in 2nd practice in Australia, it's not looking too good for long term reliability.

    McLaren is clearly struggling. Moreso than I expected. Down around Force India and Williams, and I expected them to be at least a bit better than those teams.

    RBR is still clearly the team to beat. Ferrari look great, but I still worry about rear tyre wear on long runs. Lotus is a tad bit slower than I expected but still looking very strong.
    http://www.psu.com/forums/showthread...=1#post6044369




    Did I call it or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Completely Average View Post
    From last December....



    http://www.psu.com/forums/showthread...=1#post5983102


    And then in preseason testing in March...



    http://www.psu.com/forums/showthread...=1#post6044369




    Did I call it or what?
    Sure looks like it, my thoughts where exactly the same but I wasn't on the forum by then so couldn't agree with you lol!
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    Not really hard to call given how good the RB7 is (Well Sebs RB7)!! or are you talking about McClarens downturn?

    Its like saying i wont eat food at some point today!

    Not sure what point you're trying to make?

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    Quote Originally Posted by three3-times View Post
    Not really hard to call given how good the RB7 is (Well Sebs RB7)!! or are you talking about McClarens downturn?

    Its like saying i wont eat food at some point today!

    Not sure what point you're trying to make?
    Well yeah it was pretty easy like you say given how good the RB7 is, and Red Bull have not exactly produced a crap car in the last 4 years lol! (at least for Vettel anyway )

    But McLarens downturn was obvious really from second pre season testing, still annoys me that they had one of the fastest cars at the end of last season so they decide to completely re design it and end up a second off the pace, sometimes more!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffman1986 View Post
    Well yeah it was pretty easy like you say given how good the RB7 is, and Red Bull have not exactly produced a crap car in the last 4 years lol! (at least for Vettel anyway )

    But McLarens downturn was obvious really from second pre season testing, still annoys me that they had one of the fastest cars at the end of last season so they decide to completely re design it and end up a second off the pace, sometimes more!!
    i stopped giving a **** about McClaren as soon as Lewis left.....plus summit about Whitmarsh rubs me up the wrong way and i just cant stand JB!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by three3-times View Post
    i stopped giving a **** about McClaren as soon as Lewis left.....plus summit about Whitmarsh rubs me up the wrong way and i just cant stand JB!!
    That's fair enough, even I think it's time Whitmarsh pissed off and I am a fan of the team lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Completely Average View Post
    From last December....



    http://www.psu.com/forums/showthread...=1#post5983102


    And then in preseason testing in March...



    http://www.psu.com/forums/showthread...=1#post6044369




    Did I call it or what?
    and the award for stating the obvious goes to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffman1986 View Post
    That's fair enough, even I think it's time Whitmarsh pissed off and I am a fan of the team lol!
    I didnt want Lewis to leave however!

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    Quote Originally Posted by three3-times View Post
    I didn't want Lewis to leave however!
    Well neither did I, massive fan of Lewis and always will be no matter where he goes but if McLaren had given him a competitive car all season last year and delivered him another title then he would still be there! But typical McLaren thinking they know best and when it all goes wrong the excuses start......
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    After the massive redesign of the McLaren this season it was going to be obvious that they weren't going to do well this season, as soon as I saw the reveal I was like "this is clearly a step towards the 2014 regulations". Didn't even need to see the pre-season testing to be honest. McLaren ought to have a VERY strong car next season as after only 5 races they practically said that they were concentrating on next year's car, you can see evidence of this by them constantly adding new parts to the car with next year in mind whether it'll hamper this year's car in each race or not.

    JB and Perez I think knew this at the start of the year as you could see it on their faces, they were pretty glum but having said that for an experimental car not intended for this season it's done pretty well. Still don't know why they raised the nose though as the 2014 regulations have all noses to be lowered dramatically - which means no more fugly stepped noses, WOO! Or would that mean we'll get the Walrus back?


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    Pretty sure the redesign of the car was because the 2012 car had peaked and there wasn't really anything the team could develop to get more performance. And they did consider going back to the mp4-27 at one point so i don't think they designed a car with a view to 2014 going by how different the regulations are.
    They were even trying to put parts from the mp4-27 onto the 28 for a few races. Now it seems all the parts are maybe more focused on next year.

    Next year your gonna have lots of cars looking like the Brawn from 2009 and a **** sounding V6, what a spectacle :L

    Oh, thought i'd show you some pics from Abu Dhabi/Dubai

    https://picasaweb.google.com/1156638...eat=directlink

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    Nice pictures, Abu Dhabi is my favorite circuit after Silverstone.

    The 2009 Brawn car didn't look that bad did it? lol

    Next year should be interesting to see how the new rules will shake up the order........
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    I'm afraid it did :P



    Eurgh........... :L

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    Other than the luminous green I actually quite liked the look of the Brawn GP 01, in fact if they had the stripes plain green it would've looked much nicer but still that car was astounding!


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    Quote Originally Posted by JordieDAFC View Post
    I'm afraid it did :P



    Eurgh........... :L
    I didn't think it was that bad, last years Caterham looked worse
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    Quote Originally Posted by JordieDAFC View Post
    Pretty sure the redesign of the car was because the 2012 car had peaked and there wasn't really anything the team could develop to get more performance. And they did consider going back to the mp4-27 at one point so i don't think they designed a car with a view to 2014 going by how different the regulations are.
    They were even trying to put parts from the mp4-27 onto the 28 for a few races. Now it seems all the parts are maybe more focused on next year.

    Next year your gonna have lots of cars looking like the Brawn from 2009 and a **** sounding V6, what a spectacle :L

    Oh, thought i'd show you some pics from Abu Dhabi/Dubai

    https://picasaweb.google.com/1156638...eat=directlink
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    Looks like Perez is on his way out
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    Last edited by BBK..; 11-07-2013 at 15:53.

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    It's either him or Kevin Magnussen, and I think Magnussen deserves a shot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBK.. View Post
    Looks like Perez is on his way out
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    That's too bad. Personally I think Perez deserves the ride more than Button. Button has produced more than Perez this year, but Perez has a lot of room to mature and grow yet while Button is nearing the end of his career. Button has 3, maybe 4 decent season left before he is done, and I seriously doubt anyone other than a backmarker team would want him if he were released from McLaren. He's had a good run, but next year he'll be 34, and most F1 drivers leave F1 before reaching 36.
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