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    Just to give people an idea of what McLaren have stated about the possible performance gain:
    McLaren is eyeing a half-second per lap improvement for the Malaysian Grand Prix, but knows it will not totally close the gap to Formula 1 pacesetter Mercedes.

    The Woking-based outfit currently leads the constructors' championship, with the exclusion of Red Bull's Daniel Ricciardo giving McLaren a double podium finish in Australia last weekend with Kevin Magnussen and Jenson Button.

    McLaren's Group CEO Ron Dennis believes the team can fast-track its return to the front of the field.

    "What we intend to be, as fast as possible, is a winning grand prix team," he said. "If you are not winning then you are not where you want to be.

    "So the question is, how do we catch up and how fast can we do it? And what steps have to be taken?

    "These intercontinental races limit how fast you can develop the car but nevertheless we will give it our best shot.

    "We are confident that we will be half a second quicker at the next grand prix, for a variety of reasons.

    "That will not be enough to achieve our goal but it will keep the pressure on those teams that are chasing us."

    Although a half-second improvement should keep McLaren in the battle near the front, Dennis is under no illusions about the step that is needed to get on par with Mercedes.

    "Their pace is only apparent in qualifying," he said.

    "It is clear that they have a good 1.5 seconds on anyone else. That is challenging to close, but not impossible."

    DENNIS IMPRESSED WITH DISCIPLINE

    The performance in Australia has lifted the mood at McLaren after its troubled 2013 campaign, and Dennis says he has been impressed by what he has seen so far.

    "We had a good weekend," he said.

    "The result is not so bad, but there is more behind the result: the discipline in the team, pitstops that were well performed, calling it right with Jenson; basically the weekend as a whole worked very, very well.

    "There were a few problems at the beginning of one practice with software but again, no fluster, very focused, very determined and together.

    "It will give them belief in the direction and the guidance that is in the company."
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    Quotes! Quotes! Quotes!
    There you go, is that better
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    Cool lol, looks like there could be bigger implications if the Red Bull decision is overturned:

    Red Bull's appeal against Daniel Ricciardo's disqualification from the Australian Grand Prix could determine the success of Formula 1's new fuel regulations.

    While the Australian's second place is at stake, insiders at rival teams have suggested the outcome of the appeal could have far wider implications for the future of F1's new rules.

    If Red Bull does successfully prove to the International Court of Appeal that it was right to ignore the FIA's own fuel flow sensor readings in favour of its own data, then it could open the way for teams to effectively railroad through the policing of fuel limitations at will.

    One high-level source at a frontrunning team said that if teams are allowed to ignore the FIA's reading of the two key fuel limits imposed - the 100kg limit per race and the 100kg/h fuel-flow limit - then the very essence of F1's new efficiency regulations will be blown apart.

    That would open the way for a farcical situation where the outcome of grands prix would be decided not on post-race inspections in parc ferme, but in lengthy court proceedings where teams would be arguing how accurate their own fuel data was.

    And while there is an ongoing debate about the accuracy of the fuel-flow sensors used to monitor what teams are up to, the FIA's confidence that the precision is good enough has to be accepted by all if F1's new regulations are to work.

    FIA HAS FINAL SAY ON ACCURACY

    F1 race director Charlie Whiting said ahead of the Australian Grand Prix that the governing body was satisfied with the Gill Sensors-supplied components.

    And he made it clear that the FIA was open to allowing teams to use their own fuel data if its technical staff believed the sensor was out.

    "We monitor them all the way through the race and, if we see a fault, we have a fallback solution," he said.

    "We know, for example, what the fuel used at the end of lap 24 was. And that will be the starting point for our new calculation. So we are in good shape there."

    Exact procedures for the circumstances under which teams would be allowed to rely on their own data rather than faulty FIA fuel sensor equipment was laid down in a technical directive sent to them on March 1.

    And it was emphasised then that it would be wholly at the FIA's full jurisdiction as to when those back-up readings could be used.

    The sport's competitors could not decide for themselves when to rely on their own data and ignore what the governing body was saying.

    It is no different to the need to rely on the FIA weighbridge readings on a grand prix weekend, even if they do not tally exactly with a team's own readings.

    Just as teams have to trust that the FIA polices the technical regulations rigorously when it comes to ruling on the compliance of all their rivals, so the success of the fuel-flow regulations relies on the governing body ensuring that all the sensors are equally reliable and accurate.

    There are still details of this case that have yet to emerge, such as how inaccurate Red Bull believed the FIA sensor to be, and just how much above the fuel-flow rate the FIA reckoned the team to have been.

    But while they may matter to this specific case and decide the final result of the Australian GP, it is where the ruling leaves the policing of F1's fuel efficiency formula that is a more serious concern to everyone else right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffman1986 View Post
    Cool lol, looks like there could be bigger implications if the Red Bull decision is overturned:
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    IF the FIA allow Redbull leniency and reinstate Ricciardo then it will undermine the FIA as a governing body and set a precedent for bending of the rules so I doubt that will happen.

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    The fuel sensor will end up being manufactured by Mclaren no doubt. They seem to make everything thats electical for the other teams :L

    Just seen this too..

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    One of my favourite tracks this weekend

    Always liked Segang circuit on th PS2 F1 games.

    Mercs to dominate at their home away from home? i wanna see some racing at the front though. Hopefully, Mclaren delivers on their promise and can chase the Mercs to the flag.
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    you guys seen the Russia track?



    Has a very nice flow to it. The right rears might get a work out though.
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    Looks scary with all those blind corners and walls everywhere.

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    Yeah looking forward to seeing the Russia track for the first time, hopefully it will make for interesting racing!
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    Cracking location for the track to be in, some of the stadiums are beautiful. Only downside is its in Russia which isn't really somewhere i'd go of choice lol
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    Apparently Jaguar might quit F1 if they are not happy with how it's run.........................shame
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    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula-one/26721387

    Sour Grapes?

    I kind of see his point of view. The fuel sensor thing for example, FIA had funcky ass sensors that are supposed to be accurate, now teams are being penalised for the funkyness.

    however, it was the same for all teams, which kinda shows the arrogance of Red Bull to the ignore sensor and just do its own thing....

    That's kinda like me going "yeah $#@! you police, i'll do whatever the hell speed i want!"
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    Guys you're all stupid. Everyone knows Red Bull are above the laws. How dare the FIA try to tell them how something is. The audacity.

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    So that $#@! might put all those epic workers out of work just because his team in't getting their way for ignoring the governing body.

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    Pretty much but like you say, the dude is a $#@! with a very high opinion of himself! Sure you own a successful drinks company but that doesn't give you the right to be a douche as well
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    I'm not being funny but it's not as if Jaguar, sorry Red Bull, are one of those teams that's loads of people in F1 would miss! They would just get reformed as another team with a different sponsor anyway! It's not like the have the heritage of teams like McLaren, Ferrari, Williams and Lotus!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffman1986 View Post
    Apparently Jaguar might quit F1 if they are not happy with how it's run.........................shame
    Umm... eh? Jaguar are in F1?

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    I'm pretty sure Jaguar were last in F1 in 2004. To be honest though if Red Bull left F1 I wouldn't be sad at all... waaaaaaaaaait a second I see what you did there Duffman, RBR were Stewart/Jaguar . Anyway they'll have 10 years in the championship with more than enough championships so that's decent enough but like has been said, they don't have the prestige as some of the teams on the grid. McLaren, Ferrari and Williams are the real reasons I still come back to F1 year on year. I'm glad Mercedes and whatever iteration and moniker Lotus is back as now, though both of those also have very high prestige in F1 too. Red Bull can't even compare to them.

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    Also by that logic might as well call Mercedes, Brawn.

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    red bull won't quit, they would be stupid to do so. they won't pull out for the same reason ferrari never did after every time over the years that they have issued the same ultimatum. as big a company as they are globally, they still need F1 to penetrate countries where their stock is not a household name.

    in fact, if the rest of the F1 circle pulled rank on them and told them to put up or shut up, it's my belief that they would back down pretty sharpish. it's just another example of a bit of success leading to a false belief in some people that they are bigger than the sport they compete in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    Also by that logic might as well call Mercedes, Brawn.
    Except that Mercedes has been in F1 since F1 started, as a manufacturer a good 40 years, that's pretty prestigious.

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