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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    Also by that logic might as well call Mercedes, Brawn.
    Except that Mercedes has been in F1 since F1 started, as a manufacturer a good 40 years, that's pretty prestigious.

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    I see Red Bull are now considering manufacturing their own engines :L

    That Mateschitz guy needs to shhh
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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    Also by that logic might as well call Mercedes, Brawn.
    Technically then they should be called Honda because that was the original team that Brawn took over......
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    Well, hey, the minardi's are doing good this season, 6th in the constructors ahead of the Red Bulls even

    this feels like some kind of F1 history lesson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffman1986 View Post
    Technically then they should be called Honda because that was the original team that Brawn took over......
    I know but since Jagwar is only 1 back, I only went 1 back. JAg was Stewart before that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    I know but since Jagwar is only 1 back, I only went 1 back. JAg was Stewart before that.
    Touché
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    Rain forecast for the entire weekend at Sepang :/
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    it's always raining at Sepang.

    Anyone remember the 2001 race?


    I remember the highlight DVD for that season (the vid in the clip) coming with the 2002 F1 game for PS2. Those were the days. No pre-order, dlc bull$#@!. just awesome stuff out of the box. i still have it somewhere.
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    Oh yes the time when they could still race when it was pouring down with rain
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    The Red Bull Formula 1 team has revealed details of how it plans to defend itself against Daniel Ricciardo's disqualification from the Australian Grand Prix.

    Ahead of an FIA Appeal Court hearing in Paris next month to discuss Ricciardo's disqualification, Red Bull says it is ready to prove that it did not break the regulations regarding fuel-flow rate.

    It will argue that a technical directive issued by the FIA regarding fuel-flow sensor rate readings cannot be used as grounds to disqualify it, because such documents do not hold regulatory value.

    And even though Red Bull ignored FIA instructions during the Melbourne race to turn down its fuel-flow rate, the team says its primary duty is to not exceed the 100 kg per hour rate as laid down in the rule books - which it reckons it did.

    Analysis: Red Bull fuel-flow appeal a test for new F1

    Red Bull team boss Christian Horner thinks that as long as it was within the maximum fuel flow rate as specified in article 5.1.4 of the F1 technical regulations, then there are no grounds for it to have been thrown out.

    Speaking exclusively to AUTOSPORT, Horner said: "Technical directives are not of regulatory value.

    "They are the opinion of the technical delegate - as was made clear in the Pirelli case [the Mercedes secret test], which clearly stated that opinions of Charlie are not regulatory.

    "It [them being opinions] is even stated on the bottom of the directives now, that these do not have a regulatory value.

    "Our position is as it was in the race: that we believe, and we believe we will be able to demonstrate in the court of appeal, that we fully complied with the technical regulations - 5.1.4 - to be explicitly clear."

    PIT WALL DECISION

    Horner says that Red Bull was left with no other choice than ignoring the drifting fuel-flow sensor rate during the Australian GP.

    Having already been alerted to issues with it during Friday practice, and eager to maximise the performance potential of Ricciardo in Australia, Horner said it was logical that it would put its full faith in its own fuel-flow rate readings.

    "There would have been a significant impact on performance," said Horner about the potential impact of following what its fuel flow sensor was suggesting.

    "So when you are faced with that dilemma of having a sensor that you believe to be erroneous, and a fuel rail that you believe to be entirely reliable, and you are racing for position with an engine already down on power compared to your opponents, what do you do?




    "Do you believe unreliable information being given?

    "We are absolutely convinced that we abided completely by the technical regulations."

    HOPING TO AVOID REPEAT

    With the FIA Appeal Court hearing set for April 14, Red Bull faces a tough decision when it comes to working out what it will do if there are repeat fuel flow sensor problems in Malaysia and Bahrain.

    F1 must never be afraid to disqualify drivers

    It is understood the team plans to discuss the matter with the FIA ahead of the race in Sepang this weekend to avoid any further controversy before the hearing.

    "Hopefully we will have a sensor that works," he said. "I am sure we will have a conversation about it.

    "But it is not a position that will be unique to Red Bull I don't think.

    "It is potentially more prevalent with the Renault users, because of where we are at with the engines. We will see."
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    Bolded the part that makes me fume, he said he would be down on power compared to everyone else, so he's trying to say that no one else had to power down because of the flow? Ricciardo therefore got an unfair advantage!

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    The way that is worded and edited does suggest Red bull gained performance where others lost it due to the reeling in of fuel flow rates.

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    Renault already down on power because it's $#@! does not mean that he has leeway in order to use more power to catch up with the opposition by using your own filter. If everyone put their performance down by up to 10% you can then actually see how much extra time RBR have spate! All Renault cars except for RBR were doing horribly and now we know why. If RBR are overturned then chuck the fuel flow rate checkers down the toilet and let them goe full pelt the whole way, then we'll see who really is down on power and what's fair!

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    All teams had the same issue yet they all followed the FIA recommendation and Red Bull didn't, therefor by logic other teams where down on power but didn't want to risk it so listened to advice, again Red Bull didn't, they where in the wrong, they got caught out, they got punished, end of!!!

    If they overturn this decision and award Riccardo back his second place then it will open up a whole can of worms and make the rules a joke!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fijiandoce View Post
    I remember the highlight DVD for that season (the vid in the clip) coming with the 2002 F1 game for PS2. Those were the days. No pre-order, dlc bull$#@!. just awesome stuff out of the box. i still have it somewhere.
    Hah, that was my first ever game, and i've still got the case, disc, dvd and manual and stuff. The DVD was the only reason i didn't sell it on Ebay :L
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    So, Duffman......how you liking the new Mclaren peni....i mean protrusion?



    Quote Originally Posted by JordieDAFC View Post
    Hah, that was my first ever game, and i've still got the case, disc, dvd and manual and stuff. The DVD was the only reason i didn't sell it on Ebay :L
    I still have it somewhere too! xD

    i'd have to go dig around in my parent house for it, but damn, i watched the shiz outta that DVD during the winter!

    i have every F1 game from 99 to 04.....so yeah, no surprises who's my favourite driver
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    Mercs look to have ~0.5 secs (at least) over the field after FP1.

    Hamilton will be racing with the engine that failed in Aus. He's also using that engine for all FP's and Qualy....Merc guys seem pretty confident with their engines. would've expected them to relegate that one to FP sessions.
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    FP2 was closer by the looks of things but tyre wear is going to be a factor I think, quite a high circuit for it!

    I prefer their old front wing if I'm honest, but if it makes them faster then I am happy with the new $#@!
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    FP3 currently on. Mercs are 1.6 seconds clear of Raikkonen!

    http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2014/3/15622.html

    didn't i call it yesterday, Mercs are in control

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    It's raining, delays ahoy

    At least next week there is no chance of the stuff, thank goodness! It rains like once every 4 years in Bahrain.
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    Looks like a day for the intermediates then...


    BBK.. Tapa. Talked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBK.. View Post
    Looks like a day for the intermediates then...


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    i don't know why they even have full wets
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    Ha I was only speculating with intermediates


    BBK.. Tapa. Talked.

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    Starting to feel this is Rosbergs year.


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    if it rains every weekend like it has so far it's a distinct possibility

    but that time difference to the mercs! that's greater than the Red Bulls last year >_<
    still think Rosberg and Hamilton have .3 to .5 secs over the time Vettel delivered in Q1.
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    I thought the qualifying started at 7 this morning so was gutted when I learn't that is not the case so I am now at work missing it

    Will have to watch the replay of it later so I am now going to stay out of this thread until I have lol, I don't want any spoilers
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