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    Yes and no. If they get there on merit and skill then yes. If they get there only because they have a ****** and financial backing then no.


    Just imagine if a female driver was like Maldonado. The stick they would get....


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    don't think she would be there very long!

    Maybe with these news teams coming in they might elect to be the first ones to do it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffman1986 View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks we need to start seeing some female F1 drivers on the grid?
    aren't the new american team bringing in a female driver...or did i dream that up?

    gunna go do a little sleuthing to check

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    got it, was a little bit wayward with my facts it seems

    she was mentioned but never linked:
    http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2014/...la-one-drivers

    This is her:
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    Interesting, not a bad looker either lol
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    Danica is an average driver at best. She got pole once and since then been in the middle of the pack at best. She will bring lots of money and endorsements and maybe some female fans but skills on the track, I doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    We mostly see them from he back, are they shaped more sleek at the front?
    Yeah looks like it. First time i've seen them from the front

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    It was this story that got me wondering:

    Simona de Silvestro completed her first Formula 1 test on Sunday after a two-day session at the Fiorano circuit in Italy.

    Sauber's affiliated driver, who made her debut in grand prix machinery yesterday, covered another 68 laps in today's test for a total of 180 over the two days of work with the two-year-old C31 car.

    She admitted she felt much more confident on the second day.

    "It was another good day," said de Silvestro.

    "Everything feels more familiar to me compared to yesterday, when things were new to me. We made some changes to the set-up, which gave me the opportunity to get a feeling for those changes and learn how the car reacts to them.

    "I can say that I already feel confident in the car, which is very positive."

    De Silvestro will continue her preparation with Sauber and will return to action in June, when she will test the C31 at the Valencia circuit for two days.
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again. regarding female drivers in F1, it WILL happen, and it will happen sooner rather than later & more than likely for the wrong reasons.

    it won't be patrick though, even if they offered it to her, she'd refuse. the reason for doing so is because she would get absolutely destroyed, and she knows it. the one true gripe I had with her though, was her overly-inflated opinion of herself. I can still remember her chasing dan wheldon down the pit lane after she caused both their retirements due to a stupid error.

    at one point, he turned round, gave her a "***** please" look, and carried on walking.

    he was interviewed after and in not so many words, he pretty much told the interviewer what she said. it was along the lines of "who the **** do you think you are? don't you know who I am? I'm danica patrick, the next time you see me coming up behind, move the **** out of the way"
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    Wow she sounds VERY full of herself then!!
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    pretty much.

    when things don't go her way, it's always everyone elses fault.
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    when things don't go her way, it's always everyone elses fault.
    Thats usually how it goes with girls :/

    Simone de Silvestro's debut F1 test for Sauber was funded by a wealthy industrialist. At the weekend, the Swiss team headed to engine supplier Ferrari's private test circuit, Fiorano, to give the "affiliated driver" her first F1 experience.

    Over the two days and an impressive 180 laps, the 25-year-old was at the wheel of a 2012-spec Sauber C31, but it was not wearing the Hinwil based team's usual dark grey livery. In fact, it was Sauber's very first outing at Fiorano since 2005 with Jacques Villeneuve.

    The man paying for de Silvestro's F1 programme is Imran Safiulla, according to the Swiss newspaper Blick. It emerges that de Silvestro will actually do no fewer than 10 test days this year, with the next outing to take place at Valencia, Spain. "It's not the cheapest thing in the world," said Safiulla, "but we can build something for the future."

    Safiulla is a wealthy industrialist who has supported de Silvestro's racing efforts since 2006, including buying into the Indycar team KV. At Fiorano, Sauber's 2012 car was painted in a special white, blue and green livery, with 'Clean Air Energy' and 'Hybrid' decals, although the car was V8-powered and not equipped with KERS. (GMM)
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    Wonder if Simona de Silvestro could be the one then.....
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    i didn't know what they were talking about regarding the decals, if anyone was interested:


    If she's got talent, then i hope she gets a seat. However, im sceptical on the basis she needed to buy into a Nascar team (unless thats common in Nascar?). Nascar doesn't take a whole lot of skill...relatively speaking of course.

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    Could this mean a new sponsor for Sauber? im just putting 2 and 2 and getting 5, but this hybrid stuff isn't really relevant to a V8 race car.
    This years, and future saubers, however are, and will be, Hybrids....

    Could this also mean she's practically got a seat? the Guy said sponsoring her was expensive. She could be the first modern era female F1 driver!
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    Women f1 drivers?! haahahhahahahaahahhahahahahahahahahaaha!

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    you worried they're gunna thrash lewis 33x?
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    you worried they're gunna thrash lewis 33x?
    Now that WOULD be funny
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    News just in, sexism breaks out in the paddock after learning that women have been winning all F1 championships for the last 5 years for being underweight. Could this be due to the women drivers thinking they're fat and becoming under malnutritioned before a race? Read more and find out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varsh View Post
    News just in, sexism breaks out in the paddock after learning that women have been winning all F1 championships for the last 5 years for being underweight. Could this be due to the women drivers thinking they're fat and becoming under malnutritioned before a race? Read more and find out!
    Sebastian Vettel first discovered their secret after he couldn't work out how all women F1 drivers where faster than him.....
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    News just in, former quadruple had-an-easy-ride world champion Sebastian Vettel has found a way to become lighter. What is his secret? He currently is taking a packet of Oestrogen every day to transform himself into a woman. Unfortunately no one told Vettel that the only way to become lighter and be a woman at his current stage in life is to actually be born a woman in the first place - at least he's got the female attitude nailed.

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    News just in, Bernie Ecclestone has banned all female F1 drivers because they will not sleep with him. When questioned Ecclestone said "I like to **** over the sport so I felt it only natural that all women F1 drivers would want to **** me as well, I was mistaken"
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    brilliant bits of work there guys


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    Quote Originally Posted by BBK.. View Post
    brilliant bits of work there guys


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    Great article from Autosport about Ratzenberger who also lost his life at the 1994 San Marino GP:

    October 26 1986 is remembered as the day that Nigel Mansell's spectacular tyre failure in Adelaide handed the world championship to Alain Prost. It was also the day that Roland Ratzenberger won the Formula Ford Festival at Brands Hatch, firmly marking himself out as a man of the future.

    That evening the beaming Austrian celebrated in the Kentagon, the crowded bar at the top of Paddock Hill Bend. Among the first to congratulate him was Johnny Herbert, winner of the previous year's event. Inevitably the two men chatted about their hopes for the future. Roland had recently signed to drive for BMW in the new World Touring Car Championship, while Johnny was heading towards British Formula 3 with Eddie Jordan. Both men had loftier ambitions.

    "We talked about where the journey was leading us," Herbert recalls. "He'd had the difficult times, and then won the Festival. I had won the Festival the year before, but then had a difficult '86 season in the FF2000 Quest.

    "We just discussed how things can go so well and then turn against you - but if you had the right mentality, it was something you would always get over. F1 was the thing we talked about. We knew what the stepping stones were, we knew we were on the road, and we were just bouncing it off each other."

    Remarkably Herbert would be a Formula 1 driver within just two and a half years, but for Ratzenberger, that road would be a long one.

    When he won the Festival he was 26, although he'd lost two years on his CV in attempt to appear younger. With no parental support he'd already spent an age trying to get his career off the ground, working as a mechanic for less talented drivers and instructing in racing schools. The BMW deal for 1987 was the first time he had earned any proper money.

    Always good at winning people over with his big smile and genuine charm, he found enough sponsorship to compete in British F3 and Formula 3000 and, when he ran out of options, he moved into sportscar racing to keep his career afloat.

    The big break came in 1990, when he landed a drive with the SARD Toyota team in Japan. He soon emerged as a major force, which led to chances in the domestic F3000 series.

    He earned good money in Japan, but F1 remained his goal. When at the end of 1993 opportunities opened up for his friends and F3000 rivals Eddie Irvine and Heinz-Harald Frentzen, Roland was happy for them, but inevitably a little envious.

    "He loved F1," says Irvine. "He was addicted to it, and it was amazing how much he wanted it. He had a great career in Japan, but he kept pushing for F1, especially with me and then Frentzen jumping across. It must have been tough for him, but it also encouraged him."

    Roland's own chance would come with the new Simtek team, following an introduction by Gerhard Berger's manager Burghard Hummel, a wheeler dealer who helped Roland informally.

    Over the winter of 1993-94 Ratzenberger put a deal together with Simtek boss Nick Wirth, having landed support from a wealthy Monaco-based German who had taken a shine to him.

    "He'd got the backing of Barbara Behlau," says Wirth. "She had befriended Roland and decided that she should support his motor racing career. So she put a lot of the money up, which helped him to get the drive and us to get the team together. It was really with her backing, Roland's tenacity and Hummel's help that the whole thing came together."

    Eventual a deal was agreed for Roland to drive the second car alongside David Brabham. At 33 he was finally an F1 driver - but initially his contract covered only the first six races, and others with money were circling around.

    "When I heard about it I was really happy for him, because I knew how hungry he had been," says Herbert. "I knew how frustrated he was as a typical driver, knowing that a couple of us had got our way into it. He finally had the backing that he needed to give himself that chance.

    "When I saw him I remember giving him a bit of a hug and saying, 'You've made it'. He said: 'It's been a little bit tougher for me than you!' He was probably the very last one who had been his own mechanic, working on his Formula Ford car, who got to F1."

    There was little time for testing, and Ratzenberger's own chassis was only finished on the eve of the Brazilian Grand Prix.

    "We started off with a big pile of bits in the garage, trying to build his car and nicking nuts and bolts from McLaren and Williams," says Brabham's engineer Rod Nelson. "We didn't have enough bits to build the car, but we got him out."

    With two cars failing to qualify at each race - and Simtek fighting with fellow newcomer Pacific for the last spots in the field - the pressure was on.

    Beset by mechanical gremlins, and still learning his way around the S941, Roland was devastated when he missed the cut at Interlagos.

    "It was you race or you don't race, you succeed or fail," says Wirth. "Pressure like they don't have now. If you don't make it from Q2 into Q3, big deal. In '94 it was you do not race and you go home. We were a new team with new cars, and it was a bloody steep learning curve."

    Nevertheless, Ratzenberger impressed the small team with his knowledge and approach.

    "The whole car was just thrown together very quickly," says his race engineer Humphrey Corbett. "It's not surprising that there were one or two problems.

    "You knew he wasn't bull****ting you, he wanted to succeed as much as we did. I remember thinking, bloody hell, this guy knows what's going on in the car. He would also say, 'I need to find more time in myself,' which is very refreshing to come across in a driver."

    Second time out at Aida Roland missed Friday qualifying after a crash in the morning. Nevertheless he made it into the field on Saturday. The following day he managed to bring the car safely home in 11th and last.

    "To get both cars racing in Japan was an unbelievable thing, it really was," says Wirth. "The odds were stacked against us. I was so happy for Roland as well, because I knew how disappointed he was from Brazil, and how much it all meant to him. It was, 'We're on the way now'."

    However, Ratzenberger was frustrated with his own performance, especially in the slow corners. At the third race at Imola he struggled with the brakes, and he was convinced something was amiss. Roland was vindicated when Brabham backed his assessment after sampling his car on Friday.

    "Certainly after he got new brakes he made good progress," says Brabham. "And I thought, 'Great, there's some good competition within the team."

    Meanwhile the big story that day was a huge crash for Rubens Barrichello.

    "I spoke to Roland on Friday," says Herbert. "We just discussed what we'd seen, and how violent it was. 'That was scary'. He mentioned that we should stick together a little bit more about the safety stuff."

    Come Saturday, and with his car now working more effectively, Ratzenberger was in an optimistic mood. Following Barrichello's accident the entry was down to 27, which meant that he had to beat just one Pacific - in effect that of the tardy Paul Belmondo - to make the grid.

    "He was always very upbeat, and always very positive," says Corbett. "I think he felt that almost for the first time he could put in a good performance, and he was probably chirpier than he normally was."

    Early in the session Roland was indeed faster than Belmondo. Simtek's data would later indicate that on a subsequent lap he had a minor excursion, and had then given the steering wheel a shake to ensure that all was OK, and to clean the tyres. He then went for another quick lap.

    "He didn't lose a lot of time, but it was enough for him to think, 'I'd better check the car,'" says Brabham. "Looking at the data he'd zig-zagged and braked, and in his mind he'd be saying, 'Do I come in and check it?' I can understand why he didn't.

    "He couldn't have felt if there was an issue with the front wing, and off he went. And that lap is when he didn't come round."

    As he headed into the Villeneuve corner the front wing came adrift, probably after two of the four bolts that attached it to the nose had worked loose. He ran off the road and hit the concrete wall at a terrifying speed.

    "I went past the wreckage of Roland's car and my heart sank because it looked pretty bad immediately," says then Williams racer Damon Hill. "Guys were standing around the car and waving us past, but there was no attempt to get him out of the car, and he looked limp."

    "I saw the red flags," Herbert recalls. "I saw it was a Simtek, but I didn't know which one. As I got to him I slowed up and looked. I remember him being slumped, and thinking '****'..."

    It wasn't long before the stunned F1 paddock learned that Roland had died: "It was really quite emotional for me," says Johnny. "I remember having a little cry back at the hotel after I heard the news."

    "I engineered Paul Warwick as well," says Corbett. "And I still have those two deaths on my mind the whole time. In the back of my diary I make a note of the day that Roland died, and the day that Paul died."

    Herbert was one of the few F1 drivers to attend Ratzenberger's funeral, joining Gerhard Berger in an overnight dash from the Ayrton Senna memorial in Sao Paulo to Salzburg. For Roland the road that the pair had discussed on that evening at Brands Hatch had come to an end.

    "What happened on the Sunday almost completely and utterly wiped away that day," says Johnny. "That's why I went to both funerals, to pay my final respects.

    "It was so unfair that he was taken away and he wasn't given that chance of competing in F1 properly."
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    I still remember quite vividly both Ruben's massive jump off into the wire fencing (that was scary high!), Roland's impact in the wall and of course Senna's inevitable demise on Sunday. That 1994 round at Imola really was sombre and very disheartening. While I did not want anything like this to ever happen and this might sound horrible but in a way I'm glad that it did happen. If it wasn't for these three accidents/fatalities then I'm sure there would have been many more deaths between then and now, especially in those pile-ups, rolls and flips.

    Safety has come on leaps and bounds and the antics of Grosjean, Maldonado, Webber's ultra high flip and even Kubica's mega high speed roll in Montréal is testament to the safety today.

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