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    Give the other contestants a chance, duff!


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    This is from the man himself:

    Pastor Maldonado has confirmed he will not be competing in Formula 1 this year, having lost his Renault seat to Kevin Magnussen.

    Autosport revealed earlier on Monday Magnussen had signed a deal for 2016 to replace Maldonado at the new Renault works team.

    Now, via a statement, Maldonado has declared his immediate future is not in F1.

    "As everyone knows, in recent days, there have been a number of rumours about my immediate future in Formula 1," he said.

    "Today I most humbly inform you I will not be present on the starting grid for the 2016 F1 season."

    "Thanks for all your messages of support, passion and concern for my future.

    "I feel very honoured, with the support of all of you and proud of my professional performance.

    "I thank God, my family, my sponsors, my friends, my fans and all who have helped me realise this great dream of being able to represent Venezuela in the pinnacle of motorsport.

    "See you soon."

    The statement brings to an end Maldonado's five-year career in F1, the first three with Williams, and the latter two with the Lotus team Renault has acquired.

    The 30-year-old made 95 starts in F1, with the highlight being the 2012 Spanish Grand Prix victory with Williams.

    Unfortunately for Maldonado, the Venezuelan earned a reputation as someone prone to being involved in incidents.

    Maldonado was personally sponsored by PDVSA, his country's state-owned oil and gas giant, to the tune of $46million per annum.

    PDVSA became involved in a dispute with Renault over payments, resulting in it opting to tear up the contract it had previously signed, leaving Maldonado without a seat
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    if it wasn't for the fact that's he's so erratic and is such a liability, he wouldn't need his financial backing to stay in F1, take away those negatives and I think he has more than enough talent to be on the grid. for me, that's the only sad thing about it.


    overall, I can't say that I'll miss him.
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    New Renault livery. Pretty nice actually.

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    Looks ok but nothing special!! I mean black, dabs of yellow. I'd give it a 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varsh View Post

    New Renault livery. Pretty nice actually.
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    Looks ok but nothing special!! I mean black, dabs of yellow. I'd give it a 6.
    They said it's only for testing and will probably change before the start of the season
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    formula 1's divisive engine development 'token' system is set to be dropped from 2017. Ian parkes explains the implications

    mention the words 'tokens' and 'black and white boxes' to formula 1 fans and to many a grey fog of bewilderment descends.

    F1's controversial token system was introduced from the 2015 season as a way to police power unit development through to 2020, but it has emerged it is already on the way out.

    It was intended to ensure manufacturers maintained a relatively tight rein on costs as unrestricted development could have resulted in a financial free-for-all.

    How tokens worked

    in short, the power unit is broken down into 42 parts, with each of those allocated a token 'weight' from one to three depending on importance, and with the entire system comprising 66 tokens.

    For example, should a team choose to develop the oil pressure pumps it would have to use one of its available tokens, whereas to improve combustion - defined as ports, piston crown, combustion chamber, valves geometry, timing, lift, injector nozzle, coils and spark plugs - requires three.

    Prior to 2015, certain parts that amounted to five tokens were 'frozen', allowing scope for development of all the remaining parts, totalling 61 tokens.

    Again, to avoid unlimited improvements, for 2015 the teams were allowed to use a maximum of 32 tokens, equating to 48 per cent of the power unit.

    Over time the initial rules stipulated the number of tokens each season would decrease, so for 2019 and 2020 just three tokens would be available, or just five per cent of the pu open to development.

    As each area became 'frozen', so it was blacked out, hence the reference to the black and white boxes.

    The controversies

    the token system has always been a sore point for the manufacturers, particularly when it became clear to ferrari and renault in 2014 that mercedes was in a dominant position.

    The two won a heavyweight fight with mercedes early last year after successfully arguing to the fia there was a loophole in the regulations that would allow them to develop in-season for 2015 only, rather than $#@!logating a final specification for a february deadline.

    Then in october last year the four manufacturers - with honda now on board - agreed to allow in-season development for this year too, and with no decrease in the number of tokens rather than the planned drop from 32 to 25.

    Behind the scenes talks over the token system have continued, and now it is to be abolished from 2017.

    Renault managing director cyril abiteboul said: "the token system is being removed.

    "we have all agreed to do that because we all need the performance of the engine to converge.

    "an f1 that is dictated by the performance of the engine is not good for anyone.

    "you see it is not good for mercedes, it is not good for renault, ferrari, so we are all interested to change that.

    "to stop the public being confused between the penalty system, token system, we have decided to simply remove the token system."

    how honda would have loved to have returned to f1 last year without restrictions.

    Given freedom to develop it is unlikely it would have encountered anywhere near the number of issues it did, and mclaren would have avoided racking up the penalties it acquired.

    But as the newcomer its engine had to be $#@!logated by the end of february, ensuring its hands were tied by the token system.

    Any other manufacturer looking at f1 and thinking the new hybrid system was the way forward would have been severely deterred by what happened with honda.

    Now potential new entrants know they will not face the same difficulties as honda as there will be scope to develop and quickly eradicate problems.

    Is this the right move?

    While engine performance could potentially converge, the opposite outcome is also possible and mercedes could use its own freedom to develop to maintain its advantage.

    At least renault, ferrari and honda are being offered the freedom to play catch up, and they will no longer be able to cite the the token system's restrictions as a reason for failure.

    And while the confusion is gone, the way is now paved for the manufacturers to spend at will on development at a time when cost cuts are meant to be made.

    It is on the heads of those who lead the boards of the car-giant quartet, and at least their customers will not bear the costs of any extravagances.

    That's thanks to the customer engine price limits introduced to stave off the 'independent engine' plan.

    Still while the days of the unloved token system may be numbered, a potential arms race may be looming.

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    Also some really bad news, apparently Schumi is in really bad shape according to Jean Todt. I get the feeling that it won't be too long before he goes too this year.

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    I just noticed (Do you know what i just noticed?) Keefy is posting again! Hello Keefy!

    Anyone think any of the teams this year will adopt Red Bulls livery tomfoolery this year?
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    Suzi Perry rules out Channel 4 F1 move

    Suzi Perry has confirmed she will not move from the BBC to Channel 4 to continue as the lead presenter of F1's free-to-air coverage in the UK.

    Perry took over as the lead F1 presenter on the BBC in 2013, replacing Jake Humphrey. She had previously been the lead on the channels MotoGP programme for over a decade.

    Channel 4 was named as the surprise new home of F1 on British terrestrial television just before Christmas, with the BBC cancelling its contract with FOM three years early due to cost cutting.

    Channel 4's coverage will be managed by independent production company Whisper Films, with former F1 race-winner David Coulthard – and one of the founders of Whisper Films - already signed up as one member of its on-screen presenting team. Former BBC Sport F1 editor Mark Wilkin has also joined as programme editor, while a number of other personnel are said to making the move to Channel 4.
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    Shame Suzi Perry's not moving across. She finally got her feet planted in the roll after a hairy first year. She'll most likely go back to MotoGP.

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    Watching the live Red Bull reveal. As always, they've done a blinder. Absolutely love the matte finish of the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBK.. View Post
    Watching the live Red Bull reveal. As always, they've done a blinder. Absolutely love the matte finish of the car.
    Gotta be honest I wasn't too keen on it, and did you see the 70's porn star tash Riccardo was sporting at the launch
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    For shame Duff! I thought it looked beautiful. Bored of all the glossy cars now.

    I'd declare them winners of best looking car already but often Force India do a spectacular job


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    And yeah his new look is.... Questionable


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    Seems as though all teams have their drivers now, Rio Haryanto has been confirmed as Manor's second driver:

    Rio Haryanto will become the first Indonesian driver to compete in Formula One racing after signing to race with Manor in 2016.

    The 23-year-old will partner Pascal Wehrlein as part of a new-look line-up at Manor Racing - formerly Marussia - for the forthcoming season.

    Haryanto has previous F1 experience, having tested for Virgin Racing at the end of 2010, and then for same team, by then renamed Marussia, in 2012 and '15. He also has a prior relationship with Manor, having first driven for them in GP3 in 2010.

    "Melbourne will be a huge moment for me, my country, supporters and fans and I want to thank everyone who's been with me since I started in single seaters; 2016 is my chance to reward that faith and represent Asia in F1," Harytanto said.

    "Manor Racing is a team with an exciting vision and ambitious plans. They have produced a great package and I can't wait to get in the car."

    Stephen Fitzpatrick, Manor Racing's owner, said that Haryanto's performance in GP2 last year - he won three times, took five podiums and finished fourth overall - had impressed his team.

    "We are delighted to announce Rio as our second race driver for 2016," Fitzpatrick said.

    "Rio's been racing since he first got into a kart at six years old. He's tenacious on and off the track and made a big impression on last year's GP2 battle.

    "Rio's huge following in Indonesia is great for the team and for F1. They are keen to see him on the grid and we're confident that we'll see him enjoying some exciting battles in the year ahead."

    Manor are expected to make progress in 2016, with a new chassis to compliment a deal to use the class-leading Mercedes power units.
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    What do you make of the proposed new qualifying? Keeping the 3 stages but after 5 minutes a driver is eliminated every 90 seconds.

    Lewis Hamilton is chasing his third consecutive world title in 2016
    World champion Lewis Hamilton says planned changes to qualifying for this season will not have much effect.

    A new elimination-based system will be introduced as long as the teams do not find any major problems when they study it in the next days.

    But Hamilton said: "I don't really feel like it is going to change much. I hope it's a surprise for us all and I hope it does."

    Williams driver Felipe Massa, however, said the plan could cause "chaos".

    The idea is to retain the current system of three parts of qualifying, but eliminate one driver at a time through each of the sessions. This would result in a 90-second shoot-out for pole position between two drivers.

    "I don't know if it I like it or not," the Brazilian said. "I need to have a little bit of time to sit down and understand the rules, understand the change.

    "The only thing I understand is that they want to create some chaos around, and this will happen for sure.

    "Cars that should maybe qualify more in the front have problems and they need to start in the back. So this is something that can be interesting for you [the media], but if it's better or not, I don't know yet."

    Red Bull's Daniel Ricciardo agreed with Hamilton. He said: "Without looking into 'how's that going to work or what if it rains?', the ins and outs, it seems fine. I don't know how much it's going to change.

    "It might put a little bit more pressure on us to execute the lap early in the session because after five minutes or something they're going to start ticking them off."

    Concern about rule changes

    F1's governing body the FIA has also agreed the fundamentals of changes to make the cars faster and more dramatic-looking in 2017.

    These will result in wider cars, with wider bodywork and wider tyres - and more downforce created from the underfloor.

    The teams had been trying to lower the weight of the cars, to help with the plan to make them faster, but they have ended up being 20kg heavier than now. Hamilton described this as "ridiculous".

    The Mercedes driver added: "Over the last few days, I'm driving these tyres and thinking: 'Why is it so difficult and what are the physical challenges for Pirelli and why is the car sliding in the way it does?'

    "And I just realised that when I got into F1 the car was 605kg or 610kg and now it's 100kg heavier.

    "That makes a big, big difference. They don't have to change the regulations much to make it go faster, just make the cars lighter. They are just super heavy."

    Hamilton did not comment directly on the specific design changes planned, but said: "I don't agree with the changes that are made and have been made for many years, so you just live with it."

    He also said he felt the drivers should be consulted more on rule changes than they are.

    "Some of the drivers who have been driving for 10 or 15 years - we've been through all the changes and we know which ones worked and which didn't," Hamilton said. "So I would say it's a bad thing."
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    I don't like these changes.

    We're either going to get Vettel, or the two mercs constantly gunning for pole. There wasn't any occasion last season where either the ferrari or merc weren't clear favourites. Their first lap times alone usually had them right at the top.

    I quite liked how qualy sort of built up to a crescendo at the end of every session. With almost every car out at the end hoping to snatch that last pivotal safe position, and by extension, trying to find that last extra tenth at the very end to claim pole. We've had some really nail biting ends to qualy where pole position changes with every car that passes the line. This effectively kills all hope of that ever happening.
    What this looks like is some dumb ass attempt to feed the media - "OMG [Insert high ranking racer here] WAS KNOCKED OUT OF Q1 WHAT A NOOB. IS HIS SEASON OVER?" When in actual fact he came out of the box late due to mechanical problems and got stuck behind a manor for his fastest attempt.

    On a side note, now that all the cars have been revealed... That haas car; im surprised Americans knew F1 had corners. looks quite decent for a first attempt

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    What happens if a guy is in the drop zone, has done 2 purple sectors, is closing in on the finish line and the time runs out? Does he get to finish the lap? How robbed would he (And his fans) feel if he couldn't keep it?
    Media would have a field day. So there that i guess :/
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    my thinking, is that the new rules are exactly intended to break up the monotony of the same 2 teams hogging the front row race after race after race after..... the cream always rises to the top, and introducing an elimination window has the potential to stop it, either by misfortune, team/driver error, or what some might perceive to be "divine intervention" in a weather effected lottery session. it also serves to force the teams to be ready to go at a moments notice, instead of putting a couple of fast laps in and then sitting on them for 5-10 minutes in the garage.

    I think the average F1 fan will know the difference between a driver not being able to make it out of Q1 being either because he's a "NOOB", or just because he was unfortunate or a misjudgement was made. if anything, the teams will have to adapt to make sure their driver is out on the track with time to spare, instead of cutting it fine by trying to be the last over the finishing line at the end of the session.

    we might see a shift away from the idea that pole is key, and a move towards one that the fastest time you can set at any given point is more important.

    historically, qualifying sessions that have resulted in a scattered grid have proven to lead to more exciting races, so from that standpoint, I'm not all against it. it sure as hell beats the tedium of watching a race unfold where it ends up being a 2 by 2 by 2 result.

    lady luck is often the great leveler, and it shines on everyone the same. this elimination idea is intended to add some of it. it could be said that it's adding an artificial factor, but it's not like that's never been done before.

    if it's going to be introduced, it should be done so after everyone has had their say, and after all the numbers have been crunched, which from what I've heard, is how it is.
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    Truthfully, the viewer is unlikely to even notice any difference. The teams will create their own respective formats for qualy and draw up their target times in practice.... which is no different to what they do now.

    The idea feels like a band aid. I think it's the GP2 sprint races where the order you finished in is reversed when you start the next race.

    I actually wouldn't mind that format in F1. However, i suppose that kills qualy in its entirety. Perhaps Sprint events should replace qualy, and your grid position is determined by the average of your total finishing position during the sprint events on the saturday.

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    Bernie is $#@!ing clueless. What makes him thing this new qualifying thing is a good idea? It's beyond ridiculous. I don't get why the teams are even contemplating it?!


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    it's not just ecclestone. it's a think tank containing ecclestone, along with an FIA representative, and representatives from many of the teams.

    it's possible that bernie had little if nothing to do with this, but rather a concept thought up by the team reps. either way, it's up to the collective group as a whole to agree to it, anf then the FIA to ratify it. ecclestone can't just pick wild and whacky rules and slot them in place.

    it could be argued that teams being part of the decision making process is a negative factor. the teams all have their own vested interests that may not match those of the other members of the strategy group.

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