Moore Video Interview

[Cera]

Part 1 http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.ph...ist_id=460&s=l
Part 2 http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.ph...ist_id=461&s=l

Unfortunately, there's no transcript, but he talks about the 360, 360 in Japan, his tattoo, and as usual, takes digs at Sony.

[WhatRuOn]

It wouldn't be a Moore interview without some kind of jab at Sony.

[Cera]

It wouldn't be a Moore interview without some kind of jab at Sony.

Well, it's not a very big jab anyway and in the end he does say that he thinks Sony knows what they're doing

[WhatRuOn]

Nobody really listens to Moore's shananigans anyways...He seems to cater to the 12 year old, trash-talking, halo fanboys more then anyone.

[Cera]

Nobody really listens to Moore's shananigans anyways...He seems to cater to the 12 year old, trash-talking, halo fanboys more then anyone.

Well, you'd be surprised at this one. He raises some pretty good points.

[WhatRuOn]

Nobody really listens to Moore's shananigans anyways...He seems to cater to the 12 year old, trash-talking, halo fanboys more then anyone.

Well, you'd be surprised at this one. He raises some pretty good points.

Well I guess I'll have to check it out when I get home from work then, I don't have speakers here at my work computer. But do I talk to you if I want the 10 minutes of my life back?

[Cera]

Considering you only really need to watch the second half, that's 7 minutes of your life, not 10

[Azure]

Good interview and he wasnt being an arse about it either, I actually listened to him.

Nice one Cera

[The House]

That was actually not bad, it was quite good and professional of him. Kaz Hirai could learn something from him.

[Alkemist]

Moore is such a douc......wait a minute, that was a good interview. Pete has been getting on my good side lately.

[spandexman]

Part 1 http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.ph...ist_id=460&s=l
Part 2 http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.ph...ist_id=461&s=l

Unfortunately, there's no transcript, but he talks about the 360, 360 in Japan, his tattoo, and as usual, takes digs at Sony.

He never jabs at Sony. He talked about the PS3 and said sony is a good company that knows what they are doing.

[chopchopyep]

Microsoft has no strategy for japan.

Yes they know its important, but they are way behind.They are "building connections", the connections that sony and nintendo have for decades, the connections that sega had.And they are making a huge thing out of it.Wasnt there a huge sega support for the xbox?Didnt they get Dino Crisis 3 exclusive from capcom?Didnt they get Deadly Skies exclusive?

The xbox had exclusive support from japan, for 1 - 1,5 years.I expect the same thing to happen with the 360.

Some questions:

Why launch the system and let it flop like that?I mean they knew the games they put all hopes on, where going to come out a year later.So why let the system drag the xbox brand to the floor like that?"judge us after that" is good, but not many people bought the console, and currently they are not playing with it, cause there is nothing interesting coming out for it, so people are just not happy with it, and surely wont tell their friends, "hey go out and buy one, its great".What they do is not only not sell consoles, but dissapoint the people that got one.

They know that the competion has tons of games that appeal to the japanese market, why do they hang on 2-4 games like that?The dreamcast had way more interesting games in japan, and demand stopped after the PS2 launch.

How will microsoft be able to make the 360 "interesting" for people?
The PS3 and wii will be out and offer exactly what the people want, when microsoft is currently trying to find out, what the people want.I have no idea how microsoft let VF5 be a PS3 exclusive(having so much money and everything), and basically leave both big fighting games to the PS again.

[Cera]

Part 1 http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.ph...ist_id=460&s=l
Part 2 http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.ph...ist_id=461&s=l

Unfortunately, there's no transcript, but he talks about the 360, 360 in Japan, his tattoo, and as usual, takes digs at Sony.

He never jabs at Sony. He talked about the PS3 and said sony is a good company that knows what they are doing.

Did you watch the interview? Or did you just forward though it and coincidentally miss the parts where he takes digs at the price and controller?

Some questions:

Why launch the system and let it flop like that?I mean they knew the games they put all hopes on, where going to come out a year later.So why let the system drag the xbox brand to the floor like that?"judge us after that" is good, but not many people bought the console, and currently they are not playing with it, cause there is nothing interesting coming out for it, so people are just not happy with it, and surely wont tell their friends, "hey go out and buy one, its great".What they do is not only not sell consoles, but dissapoint the people that got one.

Well, considering their main market is the Weestern one, they can't exactly launch the system with no games that appeal to them. Japanese games are coming out, just later, and should be out by the end of this year or the next.

And I can see quite a few interesting games coming out for it.

[chopchopyep]

Yeah but the consoles rep is below 0 by then.

I mean if you see a console coming out, and the first interesting games coming out after a year....would that make you confident in paying for that console?Especially when the other consoles offer much more games that appeal to your taste?

Like i said, by launching the console and let it sit like that for a year with not one big hit, they are killing it.

One year with nothing but promises of blue dragon and lost oddysey?

Why did they launch it if they didnt have anything to sell consoles with?And why do they let the console dead for a year?They release some mediocre games here and there, but nothing to make people go out and buy one.

Where will the 360 be when the PS3 is out?Who will care?The people that had the console for a year and got nothing to play on it?

[Cera]

Yeah but the consoles rep is below 0 by then.

I mean if you see a console coming out, and the first interesting games coming out after a year....would that make you confident in paying for that console?Especially when the other consoles offer much more games that appeal to your taste?

Like i said, by launching the console and let it sit like that for a year with not one big hit, they are killing it.

One year with nothing but promises of blue dragon and lost oddysey?

Why did they launch it if they didnt have anything to sell consoles with?And why do they let the console dead for a year?They release some mediocre games here and there, but nothing to make people go out and buy one.

Where will the 360 be when the PS3 is out?Who will care?The people that had the console for a year and got nothing to play on it?

In case you didn't notice- most good games come out a year later anyway. Even for PS3, there will only be some extremely good launch games. Do you know a lot of PS3 launch games which will appeal to Japan? I sure don't.

So far, it seems like only Wii has launch games which will appeal to every region.


And really- Just Blue Dragon and Lost Oddysey? What about Cry On, Fable, Viva Pinata, Kameo, DOA? The Xbox brand has never been known for having Japanese style games, and they are looking to change their image. A company that's stereotyped as only coming out with FPS games signing on Sakaguchi for not one but three games shows something.


I don't really know why you go on about the "people who held it for a year" either- if there are no games available for a certain person, then obviously that person will not buy the console, and therefore, will not be gameless for a year. Japanese people aren't idiots who will purchase a console and then sit and stare at it, you know.

[chopchopyep]

In case you didn't notice- most good games come out a year later anyway.

Not really in a year...spread through the year after launch...the PS2 didnt have to wait a year to get onimusha...and onimusha was a huge hit.

What i mean is, get 5-6 big names and spread them across the year.

If the publishers can spread MGS4, VF5, FF13, DMC4, RE5, Winning Eleven with 2 months in in 2007, thats enough to keep people busy over the first year of the PS3.

Even for PS3, there will only be some extremely good launch games. Do you know a lot of PS3 launch games which will appeal to Japan? I sure don't.

At launch, sonic, ridge racer 7 and (if its a launch title)tekken 6 are enough.Do you know the launch lineup?I sure don't

The dreamcast sold out just off VF3tb.Then after a while came sega rally...sonic adventure...then power stone....then soul calibour.They did enough to keep everybody on their pads throught the first year.Thats how you do it...you dont mute, and then come back after 7 months, thats not cool.

Sure microsoft is trying, but what they do isn't enough to secure them a position in japan different from what they had with the xbox.

The console not really selling for a year is not helping any publishers to jump on the 360 either.

[Cera]

Okay, so just because one game was a huge hit in the begining for PS2, you think people don't need to wait? That's pretty neat logic.

And you expect MGS, RE, FF and DMC 4 to all make it within 2 months? Sorry to burst your bubble, but that ain't happening. They're all TBA right now and Final Fantasy is definitely not making it in the begining of 2007. I think it's pretty cool that you threw in a multiplayform title as well, not that there's not much known about RE to speculate that it will be out by Feb 2007.

Sonic and Tekken enough for PS3's launch? Well, in that case Kameo and DOA should've been enough for the 360. And yeah, in case you didn't know, Sonic will be out for the 360. Check out the table at the bottom : http://www.sega.com/games/game_temp.php?game=sonicnext

Launch games are here : http://www.scee.presscentre.com/soft...ultSearch=True


But hey, not like that has anything to do with Moore's interview anyway So here we have yet another derailed topic that's turned into a Vs. Thread. But gee, why isn't anyone complaining? Is it because no one's noticed yet or because it just happens to be in the 360 section and Moore giving us a professional interview is oh-so-not-exciting.

[chopchopyep]

This is not a VS thread.

Its about his comments on the japanese strategy.

He brought up some interesting things, im writing comments, i would ask him my questions myself if i could.

Dont get so worked up..thanks for posting a (incomplete) launch list for europe.

Sonic and Tekken enough for PS3's launch? Well, in that case Kameo and DOA should've been enough for the 360.

Tekken Tag and Ridge Racer was enough for the PS2 launch.
VF3tb was enough for the Dreamcast launch.

Want more examples?

And you expect MGS, RE, FF and DMC 4 to all make it within 2 months? Sorry to burst your bubble, but that ain't happening. They're all TBA right now and Final Fantasy is definitely not making it in the begining of 2007. I think it's pretty cool that you threw in a multiplayform title as well, not that there's not much known about RE to speculate that it will be out by Feb 2007. And yeah, in case you didn't know, Sonic will be out for the 360.

I said..the first year..a year is 12 months.Every console out in japan had way more to offer in the first 12 months than the 360 will offer, i even gave an example with the dreamcast.Did you skip that?

Its pretty cool i used RE5 because even though RE4 came out a 11 months after the gamecube version, and was weaker in graphics, it still moved a big amount of units, and the PS2 sales got a nice push that week.

The PS3(and the wii) will be succesful in japan, they will sell more consoles during the first couple months than the 360 in its first year.So you think titles that get released on the PS3 too, will make the 360 more popular?*Sonic, RE5 and winning eleven.

If anything RE5 will help the PS3(in japan), not the 360.Because you get RE5 +all those PS3 titles.

Dont get so mad cause people dont share the same views.Im saying it again this is not a VS thread.Im just writing comments on his interview, that go deeper than just "oh he didnt act like a 5 year old this time".

[The House]

Iam not getting into this argument but last time I checked Kameo wasn't being developed by a Japanese developers or was intended to atrract the Japanese gamers.

[Cera]

Hey, if you think the launch list is incomplete, complain to Sony- they're the ones who posted it, not me. Don't take digs at me for getting the info out of the horse's mouth.

If you actually had examples, you'd have posted them by now. And like I said, if those two games were enough, then Kameo and DOA should have been as well.

If you can't debate, please don't try to pull those lame "omgz, What I meant was ______" stunts. What part of "with 2 months in in 2007" (your own exact words) means the first year? 2 months is... 2 months.


And if you think I'm mad, I'm not- I just find it incredibly amusing at the amount of blind faith people seem to posess, and the fact that you think all those titles will make it out within 2 months of eachother.

If you don't have any support for your point, simple: don't post those points, especially when they have nothing to do with the thread. Moore talked about getting more titles that would interest Japanese gamers- he did not talk about the PS3's launch lineup, how RE would boost sales for the PS3 just because it's a multiplatform title which you can buy with other PS3 games, if PS3 will be successful in Japan or not, the Gamecube, PS2 sales (not that that has to do with RE5 or RE4 anyway), PS3 titles in the first 2 mon... er... year, or the Dreamcast.

If you have nothing to support whatever claim it is that you're making, don't pull random statements out of thin air.


Writing a "oh he didnt act like a 5 year old this time" post would have had more to do with Moore's interview than all your posts in this thread put together.

Iam not getting into this argument but last time I checked Kameo wasn't being developed by a Japanese developers or was intended to atrract the Japanese gamers.

Rare is based in England, though the style of the game should've done well in Japan. It just happened that the game sucked in general and didn't do well anywhere.

[chopchopyep]

You are so smart

My god, is it that hard to see that both the dreamcast had more to offer in japan?And im not talking about the system till the end of its life, im talking about the first 7-8 months, like the first 7-8 monts that the 360 is out.

The dreamcast had VF3tb, Blue Stinger(yes it was big when it came out way before the western launch), Power Stone, Sega Rally 2, Sonic Adventure and Soul Calibour, i bought a dreamcast at launch from japan, and there was a big game every couple months.

He says "dont judge us till blue dragon and lost odyssey are out", then why do they release the console, If they plan to push it a year after its release?

What part of that question makes this a VS thread?That i brought the PS3 in it?Isnt the PS3 going to play a part in how consumers will react to the 360?

We are talking about japan and you post a launch list from Sony Europe.Very smart, maybe next time when we talk about the european launch i might come up with a horse racing game from japan.

Do what you want...the fact is...why not judge a system that is just not selling any units?Why judge it after a year?People judge the PS3 6 months before launch, and he's trying to make it look sweet by saying all that "don't judge us now" stuff.

I thought they released the xbox360 to build a user base in japan, maybe i was wrong and they just wanted the console to look bad for a year.

[Perfect Sin]

GET ON TOPIC OR THIS WILL BE LOCKED

This is not a thread to discuss Sony's Japan strategy, or what Sony's launching schemes are like. This is for comments about the Moore interview.

Cera and chopchopyep, get back on topic or leave this thread alone NOW!

[GS kid]

Microsoft has no strategy for japan.

Yes they know its important, but they are way behind.They are "building connections", the connections that sony and nintendo have for decades, the connections that sega had.And they are making a huge thing out of it.Wasnt there a huge sega support for the xbox?Didnt they get Dino Crisis 3 exclusive from capcom?Didnt they get Deadly Skies exclusive?

The xbox had exclusive support from japan, for 1 - 1,5 years.I expect the same thing to happen with the 360.

Some questions:

Why launch the system and let it flop like that?I mean they knew the games they put all hopes on, where going to come out a year later.So why let the system drag the xbox brand to the floor like that?"judge us after that" is good, but not many people bought the console, and currently they are not playing with it, cause there is nothing interesting coming out for it, so people are just not happy with it, and surely wont tell their friends, "hey go out and buy one, its great".What they do is not only not sell consoles, but dissapoint the people that got one.

They know that the competion has tons of games that appeal to the japanese market, why do they hang on 2-4 games like that?The dreamcast had way more interesting games in japan, and demand stopped after the PS2 launch.

How will microsoft be able to make the 360 "interesting" for people?
The PS3 and wii will be out and offer exactly what the people want, when microsoft is currently trying to find out, what the people want.I have no idea how microsoft let VF5 be a PS3 exclusive(having so much money and everything), and basically leave both big fighting games to the PS again.

I'm not exactly sure what you were trying discuss other then pointing out Microsoft's failure in Japan.

I mean, Peter basically said in a nutshell.... we're not doing so hot in Japan, we're still working on building relationships with Japanese devs, we are still working on getting more games the Japanese like, and added that people may call them stubborn..... but they are gonna keep up the effort.

I mean...... what more did you want to hear this guy say? You are blasting a console that has been out only 6 months now and harping on it. Don't you know that the majority of console and game buying happens after at least a console's first year or two years on the market?

Did you know that most of the Xbox 1 sales in Japan happened later? The Xbox 360 has been out only 6 months and you are going on a tirade about how badly the picture is when they had a uphill battle from jump anyways.

Peter said it's bad, we are working on it and committed to drive forward.

What more can anyone ask of them?


As for the interview? Very good and very candid. The exact reason Peter and Nintendo's Reggie are the best spokesmen in the industry IMHO.

I've liked Peter since his Sega days. As he said... some people think he's a wanker, but he doesn't care. There isn't much he could say that would make Sony fans happy, so what's the point?

I mean...he's heading a company that threatens the market dominance of Sony, so expect Sony fans to hate the guy.

[chopchopyep]

I'm not exactly sure what you were trying discuss other then pointing out Microsoft's failure in Japan.

No im not?!?
In the interview, he talks about blue dragon and lost oddysey most of the time as the biggest part of his strategy in japan.
My point is the 360 could be doing alot better, if they would have planned it better, and would have some games to fill those gaps between launch-doa4-blue dragon and lost oddysey almost a year later.

I mean...... what more did you want to hear this guy say? You are blasting a console that has been out only 6 months now and harping on it. Don't you know that the majority of console and game buying happens after at least a console's first year or two years on the market?

Im not "blasting the console".
Im not saying "the games are bad" or anything like that.Im writing comments on his interview, and i concetrate on his comments on the japanese strategy.
In the interview he says dont judge us now, wait till blue dragon is out.
While this makes sense, its still strange that they don't fill those gaps.This works against the early launch and makes the console look bad week after week.The low sales of the console have nothing to do with the "majority not buying consoles until after a year or two".Every console is sold out at launch and the following months in japan.PSP, NDS, PS2, NGC, DC...(just to answer to your comment, dont want to get off topic again).

So in his interview he is making a too big deal out of things that have to be there for ever console that gets launched in japan.Sure, he stated that they are still learning from the mistakes they made with the original xbox, but the point is, they are still making mistakes, that they didnt have to do.
This is crazy cause the 360 is cheaper in japan than it is in the western markets, and is the only "next-gen" system around.
So with a better "strategy" it would do way better than the original xbox, that came into a market that the competition allready had created.
The interview made me think that they launched the 360 in japan just to launch it, and push it when blue dragon is out.Microsoft spends alota money on promotion, the 360 logo is everywhere, subways, buildings etc. etc., so its strange to me why they are so sloppy with the releases and give away their early launch and the advantage that they had to work with.

Im just not cool with his try to explain it like "ok we know its important and its hard for us, but we're trying".Cause right now, the results of the "trying" is making the console look weak, and it didn't have to be like that.

Remember->i just comment on what i heard in his interview.

[Venger]

Wow, jump all over the guy.

He's basically trying to understand why 360 launched in Japan a year before a decent game that appealled to the Japanese market was ready, instead of MS waiting till those games where ready? Would it really have been worse than the last 6 or 7 months to launch later?