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    coulnt watch but yea everyone i wanted to win did SOOOOOOO

    whose ready for SILVA vs. GRIFFIN

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    yeah silva vs griffin should be a mega fight !

    im glad brock won & wanted bisping to win but hendersons knockout was quality.

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    I would love to see Silva and GSP fight.

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    Dream 10 happened on Monday. Pretty crazy KO from Marius. Aoki fight was a little dull unfortunately. Still a good card.

    Updated the Upcoming events. Can't wait for The Ultimate Fighter: Heavyweights to start. Looks like an epic season. August and Sept will be great months for MMA.
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    Man Fedor's team is acting stupid. He is soooooo close to signing with UFC, but dumb things are keeping it from happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnReaL View Post
    Man Fedor's team is acting stupid. He is soooooo close to signing with UFC, but dumb things are keeping it from happening.
    like what dumb things? he doesn't like the rules and management that come with a UFC contract and I dont blame him after listening to his reasons. if he does join, it'll be because of no real other alternative, not because he wants to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DINAMO788 View Post
    like what dumb things? he doesn't like the rules and management that come with a UFC contract and I dont blame him after listening to his reasons. if he does join, it'll be because of no real other alternative, not because he wants to.
    Yeah you pretty much nailed it. Also Fedor pretty much is M-1 Global so they aren't just gonna give him up without a fight. I want him to fight the UFC fighters but I kinda want Fedor to be free range.. Wouldn't mind seeing him in DREAM.

    Affliction is done so the fight between Fedor Vs Barnett will not happen... anytime soon...(also pending license). Belfort is back in the UFC for UFC 103.
    So many fighters up for grabs... wonder what's gonna happen.
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    Anyone else excited for next weekend? Both UFC and WEC! Awesome


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    Any truth to the rumours Tito has signed back with UFC. Also nice to see Vitor back.

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    So this guy has an opinion on who's fault it is then.

    It’s easy to paint Vadim Finkelchtein as the villain in this mess between heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko and the Ultimate Fighting Championship.
    Emelianenko is the free agent heavyweight with the gaudy 30-1 record and small but passionate fan base. The UFC is the world’s finest mixed martial arts promotional company and has roughly 90 percent of the top 100 fighters in the world under contract.
    Emelianenko was looking for a place to fight and the UFC wanted to put on what it believed could have become a massive pay-per-view show with a big push by pitting Emelianenko against Brock Lesnar, its silo-sized heavyweight champion.
    But no deal was reached despite a lucrative offer from the UFC. Though UFC president Dana White wouldn’t rule it out, chances of it happening in the future are remote.



    Finkelchtein is the Russian heavyweight’s manager and, more significantly, the president and co-owner of what purports to be a major MMA promotional company, M-1 Global. Finkelchtein clearly used Emelianenko as a pawn in an attempt to force the UFC to accept M-1 as a partner. All M-1 Global brought to the table was one fighter, even if he is a very good one, which would have made White a moron had he acquiesced to that demand.
    If the UFC was in the business of giving 50 percent of its company away every time it tried to sign an elite fighter, it would have been in worse shape a lot sooner than Chrysler.
    The reason the deal didn’t get done is simple: Fedor Emelianenko.
    Emelianenko’s supporters are going to point the finger at White as the reason a deal did not get done. White, though, agreed to essentially every demand Emelianenko made. He offered to pay him more than he’s ever made. He agreed to allow Emelianenko to fight in combat sambo. He agreed to allow Emelianenko to advertise M-1 on his fight shorts, on the apparel he wore and on banners his cornermen brought with them to the cage.
    What White wouldn’t do, though, is give half of his company to Finkelchtein in return for the, ahem, privilege, of promoting Emelianenko’s next few fights.
    The demand was kind of like an owner in the Continental Basketball Association demanding 50 percent ownership in an NBA team before allowing his player to sign.
    Emelianenko can fight wherever he wants, of course. His legacy, though, took a serious shellacking when he refused to order Finkelchtein to get a deal done.
    That would have allowed Emelianenko, who was ranked No. 2 in the most recent Yahoo! Sports pound-for-pound Top 10 poll, to end any doubts whether he is as great as his most ardent supporters say or whether he is overrated, as White insists. Rather, Emelianenko acts as if he’s under some sort of spell cast by Finkelchtein. He’s never met White and when Finkelchtein, White and UFC CEO Lorenzo Fertitta negotiated via conference call, Emelianenko was on the line but said nothing.
    All Emelianenko needed to do to know what he should have done was to look to Tito Ortiz, the UFC’s former light heavyweight champion. Ortiz and White have long engaged in a nasty public feud and they split, seemingly for good, after Ortiz’ contract ran out after he lost to Lyoto Machida at UFC 84 in May 2008.
    There Ortiz was, however, on a conference call on Friday all chummy chummy with White. White revealed he had flown to Huntington Beach, Calif., recently and met personally with Ortiz, where they finalized resolved their differences.
    Ortiz had dalliances with Elite XC and Affliction and said he was close to a deal to fight for Strikeforce. He referred to Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker as “an awesome guy.”
    Ortiz said the reason he opted to fight in the UFC is simple: Competition. “Who was I going to fight there?” Ortiz said. “I want to fight the best.”
    It’s too bad Emelianenko doesn’t have the same attitude. Had he been outraged by Finkelchtein’s negotiating tactics and insisted Finkelchtein work out the best possible deal, White would have been announcing an Emelianenko-Lesnar bout at his ballyhooed news conference on Friday rather than again railing at Finkelchtein’s bizarre stance.
    Finkelchtein released a statement on Friday before the UFC news conference in which he said, in part, “All we are asking is that there is give-and-take in the negotiations and that they are not one-sided.”
    But the UFC gave on the money. The UFC gave on the Fedor’s desire to compete in the Russian combat sport of sambo. The UFC gave on allowing Fedor to wear M-1’s logos. Finkelchtein wouldn’t budge on his ridiculous demand that the UFC make him a full promotional partner.
    So now, Emelianenko will be a free agent, traveling the world in search of a fight. He could fight Josh Barnett, whom he was supposed to fight on Saturday on an Affliction card until Barnett tested positive for an anabolic steroid and was denied a license by the California State Athletic Commission.
    Emelianenko remains highly popular in Japan, where they don’t test for steroids and don’t honor U.S. suspensions. Barnett, who has been caught cheating more than once, could be licensed there and conceivably could fight Emelianenko.
    But there are precious few quality opponents for him outside of the UFC. And none of the fights would captivate the world’s interest the way UFC 100 did on July 11.
    Emelianenko is largely unknown in the U.S. despite his 30-1 record and long winning streak. The three pay-per-view shows he headlined in this country – PRIDE 32 in 2006, Affliction 1 in 2008 and Affliction 2 in January – sold a combined total of fewer than 300,000 units.
    UFC 100 alone sold well over 1.5 million.
    Finkelchtein clearly botched the negotiations, but he’s not to blame.
    If Emelianenko really wanted to be in the UFC and fight the best competition in the world, he would have made certain Finkelchtein got it done.
    If you want to blame someone in this fiasco, blame Emelianenko.
    It’s 100 percent his fault.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

    50%? DAMN! If this is true I don't blame UFC/Dana White for turning it down.

    update:
    Fedor signs with Strikeforce
    Fedor signs with Strikeforce, will fight this fall

    By Maggie Hendricks
    Well. This certainly changes things, doesn't it? Fedor Emelianenko, the number two fighter in Yahoo's pound-for-pound rankings, and the subject of contentious negotiations with the UFC, has now signed with Strikeforce. From the Strikeforce press release:
    “I am looking forward to going back to work and fighting at the highest level," said the 33-year-old Emelianenko. During his nine year professional fight career, which included a four and a half year stay with the world’s former top MMA promotion, the now defunct PRIDE Fighting Championship, the Russian native has faced and defeated all comers.
    The good: Fedor will fight soon, and he will fight on Showtime, more widely available to average American MMA fans than a pay-per-view. This will definitely bolster Strikeforce's reputation as a promotion as their willingness to co-promote with M-1 means that they beat out the UFC on getting Fedor. Co-promotion was a sticking point with Fedor and the UFC, as the UFC was willing to give Fedor every demand except for that one. This could also help Strikeforce attract up-and-coming heavyweights, as it seems everyone wants a shot at Fedor.
    The bad: In Strikeforce, Fedor will likely face Alistair Overeem, Fabricio Werdum or Brett Rogers. As an MMA fan, I know that they are formidable opponents. But those names do nothing to rouse the interest of a casual fan, and any fight that Strikeforce can make will not get anywhere near the buzz as Fedor vs. Brock Lesnar would have.
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    i read that yahoo article and that "opinion" piece wasn't accurately represented. fedor and his manager represent M-1. brock is a part of the UFC. the deal was for 3 fights between a UFC fighter and an M-1 fighter. that is why vadim wanted to make the deal 50-50. but i generally do agree with White, in the sense that UFC is a giant that doesn't need to co-sponsor anything and it would be too much to give M-1.

    the big problem is UFC that fedor doesn't like is that UFC is a giant overlord that wants to own its fighters completely. they try to get you to sign over your soul for them in returns for a crap load of money and stuff. i mean even in the new UFC game there are fighters no longer associated witht he UFC but are in the game because the ufc has the rights tot hem but they wont be seeing any of that money.
    Fedor is a simple guy and doesn't really get too into the business part of these deals but has some principles he stands by. dana did give him a great offer and i think they should've worked something out and made a deal. 50-50 is too much but anything else could work.

    Here is Dana's response to the whole thing. get ready for some lolz:
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6X1TdAp_hs"]YouTube - DANA WHITE goes off on Fedor negotiations[/ame]

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    UFC 101 was surprising.
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    It was weird. Im stil confused by the Silva/Forredt fight. ALOT of people were expecting forrest to beat silva. i wasnt one of the, it was like forrest realised that he had come against THE MAN and couldnt do nothing about it. the waving saying im done, running outta the arena....but props to silva who is just to good. i was thinking the same thing about tito, but that wont be for awhile as Hendo is next for Silva. Titos strength means squat. Forrest is just a big as Tito and look what happened there!
    Dont think Forrest walked into Silvas gameplan, its just Silva is too dman good. I mean he was letting Forrest hit him face at 1 point and was just shrugging it off.

    There is no issue now that the Spider is truly the man

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    Quote Originally Posted by three3-times View Post
    It was weird. Im stil confused by the Silva/Forredt fight. ALOT of people were expecting forrest to beat silva. i wasnt one of the, it was like forrest realised that he had come against THE MAN and couldnt do nothing about it. the waving saying im done, running outta the arena....but props to silva who is just to good.
    Well Forrest is an emotional person so he ran cus he didn't want any attention. He knew he messed it up cus he didn't do what he was supposed to. Same as he started to get emotional when he lost to Keith Jardine. You wouldn't call Keith Jardine "The Man" just cus he made Forrest upset...

    Quote Originally Posted by three3-times View Post
    i was thinking the same thing about tito, but that wont be for awhile as Hendo is next for Silva. Titos strength means squat. Forrest is just a big as Tito and look what happened there!
    If you were thinking the same thing then you would know what I meant. 1) Tito is bigger then Forrest. Tito is amazing at cutting weight. 2) Forrest didn't stick to the gameplan. He didn't pressure Silva into the corner, kick, or take him down. Boxing Silva was just pointless. When Forrest started to flail Silva started to dance and then poke him till he fell over. If Tito actually uses his wrestling and weight he could put Silva on his back where Silva is weakest. It's not a guaranteed win but it's a solid strategy which is why Tito could do well. If Tito decides to Box he will lose.

    Quote Originally Posted by three3-times View Post
    Dont think Forrest walked into Silvas gameplan, its just Silva is too dman good. I mean he was letting Forrest hit him face at 1 point and was just shrugging it off.

    There is no issue now that the Spider is truly the man
    Of course Forrest walked into Silva's gameplan. When was the last time you saw Silva dance that comfortably in the cage? He knew he baited Forrest in to try and box him. He slapped him up and got him emotionally invested. After that it was more dancing and eventually that poke that dropped Forrest. Silva did nothing but dance and poke and was incredibly comfortable in that environment. Forrest is a brawler and Silva is an amazing counter fighter, it's the perfect setup for Silva. Silva just had to get Forrest emotionally invested so he would default to throwing punches (flailing).

    You say you didn't think he would lose to Forrest, you say the fight left you confused, yet you keep saying since he fought Forrest he is "now the man". Silva was one of the best fighters since he hit the UFC, since he destroyed most of his opponents, the destruction of Forrest isn't anything new. Forrest was never a technically advanced fighter, mainly an exciting brawler so fighting Forrest doesn't make you "The Man" instantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastor Mused View Post
    Well Forrest is an emotional person so he ran cus he didn't want any attention. He knew he messed it up cus he didn't do what he was supposed to. Same as he started to get emotional when he lost to Keith Jardine. You wouldn't call Keith Jardine "The Man" just cus he made Forrest upset...


    If you were thinking the same thing then you would know what I meant. 1) Tito is bigger then Forrest. Tito is amazing at cutting weight. 2) Forrest didn't stick to the gameplan. He didn't pressure Silva into the corner, kick, or take him down. Boxing Silva was just pointless. When Forrest started to flail Silva started to dance and then poke him till he fell over. If Tito actually uses his wrestling and weight he could put Silva on his back where Silva is weakest. It's not a guaranteed win but it's a solid strategy which is why Tito could do well. If Tito decides to Box he will lose.


    Of course Forrest walked into Silva's gameplan. When was the last time you saw Silva dance that comfortably in the cage? He knew he baited Forrest in to try and box him. He slapped him up and got him emotionally invested. After that it was more dancing and eventually that poke that dropped Forrest. Silva did nothing but dance and poke and was incredibly comfortable in that environment. Forrest is a brawler and Silva is an amazing counter fighter, it's the perfect setup for Silva. Silva just had to get Forrest emotionally invested so he would default to throwing punches (flailing).

    You say you didn't think he would lose to Forrest, you say the fight left you confused, yet you keep saying since he fought Forrest he is "now the man". Silva was one of the best fighters since he hit the UFC, since he destroyed most of his opponents, the destruction of Forrest isn't anything new. Forrest was never a technically advanced fighter, mainly an exciting brawler so fighting Forrest doesn't make you "The Man" instantly.

    i know Forrest ran cos he was embarassed. That confused me at 1st, but i know now it was due to shame. Silva is the man regardless, unparrelled in his class and can go up to 205 and still whoop that butt. Against a former champ too. Silva IS the best fighter going. Yes we've got Machida, BJ, GSP etc, but imo Silva is the best fighter. i wont even mention Fedor as he doesnt count as he ducked the UFC to sign for strikeforce?! I stressed that Silva is truly the man as people were questioning him after his last 2 fights. Silva is a great counter fighter, but he has a lot more to his game than just that. (forrest did kick, but silva caught his kick!)

    I admit, i expected Forrest to try and push him up against the cage or shoot for a take down etc, like most pundits predicted he would do. but he didnt, as soon as he took that 1st punch, he was beat, mentally and phyiscally. I think you being a lil harsh on forrest. Forrest has evolved from the brawler who fought Bonnar into a MUCH more rounded fighter. but whatever, like i said he was beat from the 1st punch. Silva has always looked comfortable in his fights, expect from the 1st round against hendo!

    Re tito, i gotta admit, i got into UFC late, so i only saw tito fight live once against machida. i have seen his older fights....he bores me!! No doubting his talent, no doubting he might be able to get close enough to Silva to take him down, but Silva is also a black belt in BJJ isnt he? So hes no slouch on his back! But i dont think that fight will happen. Silva has 3 fights left and i think he'll walk when done. So hes got Hendo next most likely, then after that who knows, then after that maybe the dream fight against Machida. As for tito, hasnt he got mark coleman as his warm up fight?

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    Strikeforce was disappointing.
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    Just noticed this thread, I recently became a fan of the UFC and their reality show The Ultimate Fighter.
    Chris Leben is my favourite fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poida View Post
    Just noticed this thread, I recently became a fan of the UFC and their reality show The Ultimate Fighter.
    Chris Leben is my favourite fighter.
    Poida, if you have a HD tv ONEHD are showing UFC:Wired on thursday nights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poida View Post
    Just noticed this thread, I recently became a fan of the UFC and their reality show The Ultimate Fighter.
    Chris Leben is my favourite fighter.
    Just wait for this Heavyweight season, It's gonna start in September and it should be excellent. Really pumped to see what happens.
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    Lot of KO's happened this card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richie217 View Post
    Poida, if you have a HD tv ONEHD are showing UFC:Wired on thursday nights.
    Sucks I got Fox but dont have HD tv.
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    Just wait for this Heavyweight season, It's gonna start in September and it should be excellent. Really pumped to see what happens.
    Heavyweights I havent seen a lot of tbph, I been into all the lighter classes.

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    Yeah, UFC 102 headline fights were quick. Maia got a one hitta quitta and Jardine I believe wasnt even close of given Thiago a challenge. Nate is a huge 85'er compared to Maia. UFC 103 looks like a weak card might be skippin' that one the only fight that catches my intrest is Cro-Cop and dos Santos.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Poida View Post
    Sucks I got Fox but dont have HD tv.

    Heavyweights I havent seen a lot of tbph, I been into all the lighter classes.
    I don't like Heavyweights as much either. But that won't stop this seasons TUF from being potentially being excellent. The roster just looks fantastic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gran Patron' View Post
    Yeah, UFC 102 headline fights were quick. Maia got a one hitta quitta and Jardine I believe wasnt even close of given Thiago a challenge. Nate is a huge 85'er compared to Maia. UFC 103 looks like a weak card might be skippin' that one the only fight that catches my intrest is Cro-Cop and dos Santos.
    !!! 103 looks pretty good maybe not great but solid. Rich vs Vitor, Cro cop vs dos Santos, Koscheck vs Trigg (sure this is probably a joke match but could be a good laugh). Tomasz Drwal vs McFedries, Efrain vs Cole could be good as well.

    The only thing that is a disappoint is Carwin vs Velasquez won't happen anytime soon. But Lesnar vs Carwin should still be good, I bet Velasquez gets next dibs depending on how well he defeats Rothwell.
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    Yeah I been watching TUF from season 1 to 8 now.
    Seen all but 9.

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    Anybody watch UFC Fight Night yesterday? I only got to see the Nate Diaz vs. Guillard fight, great submission btw. And I watched the Huerta vs Maynard fight. I feel Huerta got robbed, but it was a nasty kimara that Maynard had on him.

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