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    Square Enix on Xbox 360

    A nice article about the promises of Square-Enix, and their actual delivering:

    Square Enix on Xbox 360

    The two companies have been talking for a long time, but Square Enix continually shuns Microsoft.

    It's no secret that Microsoft has done well in the console gaming sector. The company came out strong with the first Xbox and challenged Nintendo for the number two spot. With the Xbox 360, the company has garnered itself a one year head start against competition from Sony and Nintendo, and is looking to make a strong run at holding the number one spot. However, there is one area where Microsoft has been severely lacking and that hasn't changed at all from the Xbox to the Xbox 360. We're talking about Japan and support from Japanese third party companies.

    There are a lot of Japanese companies who are offering solid support for the Xbox 360, but there are still several who seem to be hesitant about support. The primary company of focus here is Square Enix. In all honesty, it doesn't matter if Devil May Cry 4 is exclusive to the Xbox 360, or if Microsoft can secure Metal Gear Solid 4 for the 360. The Japanese gaming audience is shifted by two game series: Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest. If Microsoft were able to secure an exclusive on a current Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest title within the main series, the announcement alone would move Xbox 360 consoles in Japan.

    Microsoft has discussed its relationship with Square Enix in the past, and the two companies are always very positive about working together. However, over the past two years, nothing has really come of these talks other than a lackluster port of a five year old game (Final Fantasy XI). So let's go back for a moment to look at what has been said in the past, then move forward to see where this relationship is really going.

    E3 2005

    At Microsoft's pre-E3 2005 press conference, Yoichi Wada, President of Square Enix came up on stage and discussed Square's future plans for the Xbox 360. At this point, Final Fantasy XI was officially announced. The audience cheered, but let's face it, porting a five year old game that had already been available for the PC and the PlayStation 2 wasn't going to bring a lot of new Japanese gamers to the Xbox 360.

    "Close collaboration between Microsoft and Square Enix is just beginning. As a company that is dedicated to expanding the boundaries of what is possible in the world of video games, Square Enix looks forward to working with the Xbox team to create new worlds that Xbox 360 will make possible. Tonight, I would like to share with you a sneak preview of what we believe the future of video games might look like. We created this real-time rendered image taking advantage of Xbox 360's superb graphics power."

    Mr. Wada followed this statement with a video showcasing a new fantasy world that looked like it could potential be from the upcoming MMORPG that the Final Fantasy XI team is currently working on. The video and speech would've been a confidence booster for Xbox 360 loyalists if it weren't for the amazing showing Square Enix put on at the Sony press conference hours before. Instead of an unnamed real-time movie, Square Enix showed off a real-time version of the Final Fantasy VII intro running on PlayStation 3 hardware specs.

    Tokyo Game Show 2005

    Sony once again showed off the Final Fantasy VII real-time demo for the PlayStation at the 2005 Tokyo Game Show. And while the crowds around the PS3 theater were huge, the crowd for Final Fantasy XI at the Microsoft booth was equally impressive. In fact, the only game at the Microsoft booth that was getting attention was Final Fantasy XI. N3: Ninety-Nine Nights, Chrome Hounds, Enchanted Arms and Dynasty Warriors were all on display and playable, but none of those titles garnered the attention of FFXI.

    E3 2006

    Square Enix held a press conference on the Monday before E3 2006 began. Going into the press event, we felt sure that Square Enix would show something for the Xbox 360. With all of the talk in the past about Square's support for the 360, we figured this would be the place and time to do it. In fact, we fully expected plenty of PlayStation 3 discussion, and if there was nothing said about the Xbox 360, Microsoft would be in trouble.

    "We are deeply impressed by Xbox 360's outstanding features such as HD graphics, network connectivity and personalization. We are also impressed with Microsoft's deep insight into online gaming. So it is a great pleasure for us that the cross-platform concept of our PlayOnline will now be compatible with Xbox Live. Users of Xbox Live can now share with PC users the worlds we've created. This is something we've dreamed about in the past."

    That was what Mr. Yoichi Wada said at E3 2005, one year before. At the very least that statement indicates that Square Enix will be porting its next MMORPG to the Xbox 360. While the company was not ready to disclose details about its next MMO, aside from a few comments about the game coming to Windows Vista and PlayStation 3 (nothing about the Xbox 360), there were plenty of announcements made at the press briefing.


    To kick off Square's next generation announcements, the company displayed Dragon Quest Swords as a launch title for the Nintendo Wii. This was quite a surprise, and should help Nintendo sell a few Wii consoles in Japan later this year. The Dragon Quest Swords announcement was followed by the announcement of Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles for the Nintendo Wii and the Nintendo DS.

    At this point we knew more was coming. Square Enix had already announced two Nintendo Wii titles, so PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 news had to be on the way. What followed was virtually a slap in Microsoft's face, and we're not talking about a little French, "I challenge you to a duel" slap. Square Enix went for the Charlie Murphy/Rick James slap and asked Microsoft what the five fingers said to the face.

    A trailer for Final Fantasy XIII was shown, followed by text indicating it would be on the PlayStation 3. Square then began talking about exploiting franchises (yes, they said exploit) so we knew more FFXIII was coming. However, the next title shown was Final Fantasy Agito XIII for mobile phones. Okay, we've got a new Final Fantasy for PS3 and now another for mobile, but Square Enix wasn't done yet.

    The final game showed in the Final Fantasy announcement montage appeared to be a new CG movie similar to Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. However, at the end of the trailer, the same familiar text indicating the console was shown. This time all that was a pause before the name of the console was shown. At this point Square Enix had shown two Wii products, one PlayStation 3 product and new mobile phone game based on the FFXIII universe. This game had to be for the Xbox 360 right? Wrong! After the deliberate pause, PlayStation 3 was displayed on screen.

    The Future

    As we look ahead, we are still left with the words of Mr. Yoichi Wada. But what exactly does Square Enix have in store for the Xbox 360? At a press briefing held in Japan shortly before E3 2006, Square Enix announced Project Sylph, an arcade-style shooter. Not exactly a game that will be moving consoles in Japan, and certainly no where near as big as two Final Fantasy XIII titles for the PlayStation 3. Tri-Ace, the developer behind the Star Ocean series, is working on an RPG for the Xbox 360, but that's being handled my Microsoft as it seems Square Enix has little to no involvement in the project.

    With all of the talk about the PlayOnline service and Xbox Live, one would think that the next MMO from the Final Fantasy XI team would be coming to the Xbox 360. However, reports over the past year have indicated that the game will only be heading to the Vista and PlayStation 3 platforms. We'll have to wait for more details on the title from Square Enix, but a new MMO may not be enough to push consoles in Japan, especially if the title will be available on Windows Vista and the PlayStation 3. For the foreseeable future, it appears as though Microsoft will continue to be shunned by Square Enix.

    Link: http://www.gamerfeed.com/gf/features/1028/
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    Good article, I didn't know Square Enix was making a game for the Xbox 360. But it sure is noticable that Microsoft didn't get that Final Fantasy licence!
    THat is good I think, for the Playstation 3 of course. Because the Final Fantasy series are already proved to be a succes and without the 360 being sold enough in Japan such a title can't make the console sell a lot more....
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    I can't remember Square making a good game that wasn't an RPG since Bushido Blade...it's a shame they wouln't bring their RPGs to the 360.

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    Square Enix said that there are more games planned for the Final Fantasy XIII project, and that they'd announce them for other platforms. Now, that could mean we'll see games in the Final Fantasy XIII universe, or it could mean we'll see them on the Wii. Considering the graphics horsepower of the 360 in relation to the Wii I'd like to think they'll be coming to the 360.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedos
    Square Enix said that there are more games planned for the Final Fantasy XIII project, and that they'd announce them for other platforms. Now, that could mean we'll see games in the Final Fantasy XIII universe, or it could mean we'll see them on the Wii. Considering the graphics horsepower of the 360 in relation to the Wii I'd like to think they'll be coming to the 360.
    Thats cool and all, but, with the exception of the main FFXIII I think all the games will be sub-par at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedos
    Square Enix said that there are more games planned for the Final Fantasy XIII project, and that they'd announce them for other platforms. Now, that could mean we'll see games in the Final Fantasy XIII universe, or it could mean we'll see them on the Wii. Considering the graphics horsepower of the 360 in relation to the Wii I'd like to think they'll be coming to the 360.
    Actually Squeenix said that there is three more PROJECTS, which doesn't mean games. It could mean movie, manga, anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatRuOn
    Quote Originally Posted by Fedos
    Square Enix said that there are more games planned for the Final Fantasy XIII project, and that they'd announce them for other platforms. Now, that could mean we'll see games in the Final Fantasy XIII universe, or it could mean we'll see them on the Wii. Considering the graphics horsepower of the 360 in relation to the Wii I'd like to think they'll be coming to the 360.
    Thats cool and all, but, with the exception of the main FFXIII I think all the games will be sub-par at best.
    there was a time on the PS1 where they could leave the RPG genre and make an amazing game...

    But yeahtheir foray onto the PS2 hasn't been a gracious leap in performance, i blame the merger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroyd

    there was a time on the PS1 where they could leave the RPG genre and make an amazing game...

    But yeahtheir foray onto the PS2 hasn't been a gracious leap in performance, i blame the merger.
    Me too, Bushido and Brave Fencer were amazing games for the PS1...but other then FFX I can't think of any killer games on the PS2 from Sq.

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    Who cares about Square Enix and there crapy FF ports
    half the FF games are CGIS any ways

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    Again with the flame bait, please don't make me report you CG

    Anyway, I for one WANT Microsoft to get SquareEnix support, I think creating a way for Live players and PS3 players (a pipedream I know ) to hang together on the internet would be awesome...

    Perhaps MS will gain a quirky little title like "Brave Fencer Mushashi"

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatRuOn
    Quote Originally Posted by Fedos
    Square Enix said that there are more games planned for the Final Fantasy XIII project, and that they'd announce them for other platforms. Now, that could mean we'll see games in the Final Fantasy XIII universe, or it could mean we'll see them on the Wii. Considering the graphics horsepower of the 360 in relation to the Wii I'd like to think they'll be coming to the 360.
    Thats cool and all, but, with the exception of the main FFXIII I think all the games will be sub-par at best.
    Final Fantasy Versus XIII will definitely not be sub par. It's by Nomura, the writer of FFVII and director of Kingdom Hearts games.

    but other then FFX I can't think of any killer games on the PS2 from Sq.
    Uh... Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2, FFXII, Dragon Quest VIII (well, nowadays it's technically a Square game), Front Mission 5, Star Ocean 3, Radiata Stories, Grandia 3. Of course not all of them are über great, but good nonetheless.

    And one sure-to-be-great game still coming, Valkyrie Profile 2.

    half the FF games are CGIS any ways
    Hmmm... I remember reading that some Final Fantasy game had 1 and a half hours of FMV. If you want to complete the games 100%, FFX took well over 100 hours. I don't think 50 hours of that was FMVs, or even talking. Most of the time you're fighting enemies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azu
    but other then FFX I can't think of any killer games on the PS2 from Sq.
    Uh... Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2, FFXII, Dragon Quest VIII (well, nowadays it's technically a Square game), Front Mission 5, Star Ocean 3, Radiata Stories, Grandia 3. Of course not all of them are über great, but good nonetheless.

    And one sure-to-be-great game still coming, Valkyrie Profile 2.
    Most of those games you mentioned are outsourced. Grandia 3 came from Game Arts, Radiata Stories and Valkryie Profile 2 come from Tri Ace. Dragon Quest VIII comes from Level 5. Only the Kingdom Hearts games and Front Mission 5 come from the original Square. Indeed, the teams within the Square of Square Enix have been pretty much sitting on their bottoms all generation long.


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    Tri-Ace is a part of Enix, always has been. Enix and Square-soft over their many decades of service to the gaming industry got way too large to have just 1 squad so they built tons of internal studios. Like Sony has Naughty Dog and Incognito and Polyphony, Enix has Tri-Ace and Square has(had) Dream Factory and other studios.

    But I'm glad Square and Enix aren't throwing crap into the wind. But Enix has made some gems that people have overlooked. Like Robot Alchemic Drive for the PS2. Only released 50,000 copies but man, what a game that is. Best mech fighting game EVA.

    DQVIII, engine built by Level 5 but everything else done by Enix of course. FFX and X-2 were actually real high quality, but X-2 was too much like a rehashing of the same engine and locations with nothing but a different storyline, few new characters and a different battle engine.

    FFXII got a 40/40 from Famitsu, that coveted number only 7 other games has hit. Valkrie Profile 2 looks trully amazing. Radiata Stories and Grandia. List goes on for Enix and Square this generation. And unlike in the past, almost all the games have been pretty damn good.
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    I'll just politely disagree and wish things were like the PS1 days.

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    Tri-Ace is a part of Enix, always has been.
    Well if that is the case then why does the copyright on their website say Tri Ace and not Square Enix? http://www.tri-ace.com/ Scroll down to the bottom of the page.

    Square Enix doesn't own Game Arts as far as I know, they are still independent, and so is Tri Ace. In fact, it was mentioned in the very source from this thread that MS is publishing Tri Ace's 360 rpg and not Square Enix, though Square Enix is publishing Game Arts Project Slyph.

    And I agree with WhatRuOn. The merger with Enix has really hampered the kinds of games that made Squaresoft a rockstar of game development last gen. Square used to far and away be my favorite game developer, right now, I don't know who I'd consider my favorite game developer (Nautilus ranks pretty high up there, and if Final Fantasy XII turns out to be as great a game as it could be, Square will have regained some of my favor).

    But really though, you can't even compare this generation's (Square) Enix rpgs with Squaresoft's of last generation. During the PS1, we got three Final Fantasies, a Chrono Cross, a Xenogears, a Vagrant Story, Final Fantasy Tactics, and a Saga Frontier (a favorite of mine), all of which were gold. This gen from Square we get, what, Final Fantasy X and X-2, Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2, Unlimited Saga, Romancing Saga, is that it? That hardly compares with last gen's best from the house that Final Fantasy built.


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    According to IGN these are the games that Square Enix is responsible for on all machines. Just to refresh some memories.

    Games Published

    Game Boy Advance
    Dragon Quest Characters: Toruneko no Daibouken 3 Advance: Fushigi no Dungeon
    Final Fantasy V
    Final Fantasy VI
    Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories
    Slime Mori Mori Dragon Quest: Shougeki no Shippo Dan

    Nintendo DS
    Children of Mana
    Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime
    Dragon Quest Monsters -- Joker
    Egg Monster Hero
    Final Fantasy III
    Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles -- Ring of Fates

    PC
    Cross Gate Power-Up Kit 2: Rakuen no Tamago
    Cross Gate Power-Up Kit 3: Tenkai no Kishi to Hoshiei no Utahime
    Cross Gate Power-Up Kit: Ryuu no Sunadokei
    Cross Gate: All In One Pack
    Fantasy Earth: The Ring of Dominion
    Final Fantasy XI
    Final Fantasy XI Chains of Promethia / Rise of the Zilart All-In-One Pack 2004
    Final Fantasy XI Entry Disc + Rise of the Zilart Enhanced Data
    Final Fantasy XI Online: Treasures of Aht Urhgan
    Final Fantasy XI: Chains of Promathia
    Final Fantasy XI: Rise of the Zilart
    Final Fantasy XI: The Vana'diel Collection
    Front Mission Online
    Junk Metal

    PlayStation
    Chocobo Collection
    Chocobo Stallion
    Cyber Org
    Final Fantasy Origins
    Front Mission 1st

    PlayStation 2
    All-Star Professional Wrestling III
    Ambrosia Odyssey
    Code Age Commanders
    Dawn of Mana
    Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII
    Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Special
    Dragon Quest V
    Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
    Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King (demo disc)
    Dragon Quest: Young Yangus' Mysterious Dungeon
    Drakengard
    Drakengard 2
    Final Fantasy X-2
    Final Fantasy X-2 International + Last Mission
    Final Fantasy XI Chains of Promethia / Rise of the Zilart All-In-One Pack 2004
    Final Fantasy XI Entry Disc 2005
    Final Fantasy XI: Chains of Promathia
    Final Fantasy XI: Rise of the Zilart
    Final Fantasy XI: Treasures of Aht Urhgan
    Final Fantasy XII
    Final Fantasy XII (demo disc)
    Front Mission 4
    Front Mission 4 (Demo Disc)
    Front Mission 5: Scars of the War
    Front Mission Online
    Fullmetal Alchemist 2: Curse of the Crimson Elixir
    Fullmetal Alchemist 3: Kami wo Tsugu Shoujo
    Fullmetal Alchemist and the Broken Angel
    Grandia III
    Hanjuku Hero: 7 Nin no Hanjuku Eiyuu
    Hanjuku Monogatari 4: 7 Nin no Hanjuku Eiyuu - Hanjuku Ginga Bentou
    Heavy Metal Thunder
    Kingdom Hearts II
    Musashi: Samurai Legend
    PlayOnline / Final Fantasy XI All In One Pack 2006
    Radiata Stories
    Romancing SaGa
    Square Enix Sampler Disc, Vol. 1
    Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
    Star Ocean: Till the End of Time - Director's Cut
    UNLIMITED SaGa
    Ultimate Hits: Final Fantasy X / X-2 Ultimate Box
    Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria

    PlayStation 3
    Final Fantasy VII: Technical Demo for PS3
    Final Fantasy Versus XIII
    Final Fantasy XIII
    Square Enix PS3 MMORPG [Untitled]

    PlayStation Portable
    Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
    Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Special
    Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth

    Wii
    Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
    Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles -- Crystal Bearers

    Wireless
    Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII
    Brave Shot
    Brave Shot 2
    Code Age Brawls
    Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII: Lost Episode
    Dragon Quest
    Dragon Quest II
    Final Fantasy Agito XIII
    Final Fantasy I
    Final Fantasy II
    Final Fantasy VII Snowboarding
    Front Mission
    Front Mission 2089
    Hanjuku Hero Mobile
    Hexcite Fusion
    Musashi: Mobile Samurai
    Musashi: Mobile Samurai 2

    WonderSwan Color
    Hanjuku Hero

    Xbox 360
    Final Fantasy XI
    Final Fantasy XI (demo disc beta test)
    Project Sylph
    Square Enix / Tri-Ace RPG
    Games Developed

    Game Boy Advance
    Dragon Quest Characters: Toruneko no Daibouken 3 Advance: Fushigi no Dungeon
    Final Fantasy I & II: Dawn of Souls
    Final Fantasy V
    Final Fantasy VI
    Slime Mori Mori Dragon Quest: Shougeki no Shippo Dan

    GameCube
    Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (Includes GBA Cable)

    Nintendo DS
    Children of Mana
    Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime
    Dragon Quest Monsters -- Joker
    Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles -- Ring of Fates
    Mario Hoops 3-on-3

    PC
    Cross Gate Power-Up Kit 2: Rakuen no Tamago
    Cross Gate Power-Up Kit 3: Tenkai no Kishi to Hoshiei no Utahime
    Cross Gate Power-Up Kit: Ryuu no Sunadokei
    Cross Gate: All In One Pack
    Fantasy Earth: The Ring of Dominion
    Final Fantasy XI
    Final Fantasy XI Chains of Promethia / Rise of the Zilart All-In-One Pack 2004
    Final Fantasy XI Entry Disc + Rise of the Zilart Enhanced Data
    Final Fantasy XI Online: Treasures of Aht Urhgan
    Final Fantasy XI: Chains of Promathia
    Final Fantasy XI: Rise of the Zilart
    Final Fantasy XI: The Vana'diel Collection
    Front Mission Online
    Junk Metal

    PlayStation
    Cyber Org
    Front Mission 1st

    PlayStation 2
    All-Star Professional Wrestling III
    Ambrosia Odyssey
    Code Age Commanders
    Dawn of Mana
    Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII
    Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Special
    Dragon Quest Characters: Torneko's Great Adventure 3: Mysterious Dungeon
    Dragon Quest V
    Final Fantasy X-2
    Final Fantasy X-2 International + Last Mission
    Final Fantasy XI
    Final Fantasy XI
    Final Fantasy XI Chains of Promethia / Rise of the Zilart All-In-One Pack 2004
    Final Fantasy XI Entry Disc 2005
    Final Fantasy XI: Chains of Promathia
    Final Fantasy XI: Rise of the Zilart
    Final Fantasy XI: Treasures of Aht Urhgan
    Final Fantasy XII
    Front Mission 4
    Front Mission 5: Scars of the War
    Front Mission Online
    Hanjuku Hero: 7 Nin no Hanjuku Eiyuu
    Hanjuku Monogatari 4: 7 Nin no Hanjuku Eiyuu - Hanjuku Ginga Bentou
    Heavy Metal Thunder
    Kingdom Hearts II
    Musashi: Samurai Legend
    PlayOnline / Final Fantasy XI All In One Pack 2006
    Romancing SaGa
    Square Enix Sampler Disc, Vol. 1
    UNLIMITED SaGa
    Ultimate Hits: Final Fantasy X / X-2 Ultimate Box

    PlayStation 3
    Final Fantasy VII: Technical Demo for PS3
    Final Fantasy Versus XIII
    Final Fantasy XIII
    Square Enix PS3 MMORPG [Untitled]

    PlayStation Portable
    Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
    Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Special

    Wii
    Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors

    Wireless
    ActRaiser
    Aleste
    Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII
    Brave Shot
    Brave Shot 2
    Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII: Lost Episode
    Dragon Quest
    Final Fantasy Agito XIII
    Final Fantasy I
    Final Fantasy II
    Final Fantasy VII Snowboarding
    Front Mission
    Hanjuku Hero Mobile
    Musashi: Mobile Samurai

    WonderSwan Color
    Hanjuku Hero

    Xbox 360
    Final Fantasy XI
    Final Fantasy XI (demo disc beta test)
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    These are the games they list for just Square, though there is over lap.

    Games Published

    Game Boy
    Final Fantasy Adventure
    Final Fantasy Legend
    Final Fantasy Legend III
    Mystic Quest

    Game Boy Advance
    Chocobo Land: A Game of Dice
    Dragon Quest Monsters: Caravan Heart
    Sword of Mana

    MSX
    Aliens

    NES
    Deep Dungeon III
    Final Fantasy
    Final Fantasy II
    Final Fantasy III
    Hanjuku Hero
    King's Knight
    Square's Tom Sawyer
    Teguzar

    Nintendo 64
    Final Fantasy N64 SGI Demo

    PC
    Final Fantasy VIII

    PC-88
    Alpha
    Cruise Chaser Blassty
    Genesis
    King's Knight Special
    The Death Trap
    Will (The Death Trap II)

    PlayStation
    Another Mind
    Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon
    Chrono Cross (Demo Disc)
    Chrono Trigger
    Final Fantasy
    Final Fantasy Anthologies: Europa Edition
    Final Fantasy I - II: Premium Package
    Final Fantasy II
    Final Fantasy IV
    Final Fantasy V
    Final Fantasy VI
    Final Fantasy VII (Demo Disc)
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Front Mission 2
    Front Mission Alternative
    IS Internal Section
    Legend of Mana
    Racing Lagoon
    Soukaigi
    SquareSoft 1998 Collector's CD Vol. 1 (demo Disc)
    SquareSoft 1999 Collector's CD Vol. 2
    SquareSoft 2000 Collector's CD Vol. 3
    Tobal No. 2

    PlayStation 2
    All Star Pro-Wrestling
    All-Star Professional Wrestling II
    Gekikuukan Pro Yakyuu: At the End of the Century 1999
    Hanjuku Hero Vs. 3D
    Nichibeikan Pro Baseball FINAL LEAGUE
    World Fantasista

    PocketStation
    Chocobo World

    Super NES
    Alcahest
    Bahamut Lagoon
    Breath of Fire
    Chrono Trigger
    Final Fantasy II
    Final Fantasy III (US)
    Final Fantasy IV (Import)
    Final Fantasy V (import)
    Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest
    Front Mission
    Front Mission Gun Hazard
    Hanjuko Hero
    Live A Live
    Radical Dreamers
    Romancing SaGa
    Romancing SaGa 2
    Romancing SaGa 3
    Rudra no Hihou
    Secret of Evermore
    Secret of Mana
    Seiken Densetsu 3
    Treasure Hunter G

    WonderSwan
    Hataraku Chocobo

    WonderSwan Color
    Blue Wing Blitz
    Final Fantasy
    Final Fantasy II
    Final Fantasy III (Import)
    Final Fantasy IV
    Front Mission
    Games Developed

    Arcade
    Ehrgeiz

    Famicom Disk System
    3-D Worldrunner

    Game Boy
    Final Fantasy Adventure
    Final Fantasy Legend
    Final Fantasy Legend II
    Final Fantasy Legend III
    Mystic Quest

    Game Boy Advance
    Chocobo Land: A Game of Dice
    Final Fantasy IV Advance
    Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

    MSX
    Aliens
    Final Fantasy

    NES
    3-D WorldRunner
    Final Fantasy
    Final Fantasy II
    Final Fantasy III
    Hanjuku Hero
    King's Knight
    Rad Racer
    Rad Racer 2
    Square's Tom Sawyer

    Nintendo 64
    Final Fantasy N64 SGI Demo

    Nintendo DS
    Final Fantasy III

    PC
    Final Fantasy VII
    Final Fantasy VIII

    PC-88
    Alpha
    Cruise Chaser Blassty
    Genesis
    King's Knight Special
    The Death Trap
    Will (The Death Trap II)

    PlayStation
    Another Mind
    Brave Fencer Musashi
    Bushido Blade
    Bushido Blade 2
    Chocobo Racing
    Chocobo's Dungeon 2
    Chrono Cross
    Chrono Trigger
    Einhander
    Final Fantasy
    Final Fantasy Anthologies: Europa Edition
    Final Fantasy Anthology
    Final Fantasy Chronicles
    Final Fantasy I - II: Premium Package
    Final Fantasy II
    Final Fantasy IV
    Final Fantasy IX
    Final Fantasy Origins
    Final Fantasy Tactics
    Final Fantasy V
    Final Fantasy VI
    Final Fantasy VII
    Final Fantasy VII (Demo Disc)
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Front Mission 2
    Front Mission 3
    Front Mission Alternative
    IS Internal Section
    Legend of Mana
    Parasite Eve
    Parasite Eve II
    Racing Lagoon
    Saga Frontier
    Saga Frontier 2
    SquareSoft 1998 Collector's CD Vol. 1 (demo Disc)
    SquareSoft 1999 Collector's CD Vol. 2
    SquareSoft 2000 Collector's CD Vol. 3
    Threads of Fate
    Vagrant Story
    Xenogears

    PlayStation 2
    All Star Pro-Wrestling
    All-Star Professional Wrestling II
    Final Fantasy X
    Final Fantasy X International
    Front Mission 4 (Demo Disc)
    Gekikuukan Pro Yakyuu: At the End of the Century 1999
    Hanjuku Hero Vs. 3D
    Kingdom Hearts
    Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix
    Nichibeikan Pro Baseball FINAL LEAGUE
    World Fantasista

    PocketStation
    Chocobo World

    Super NES
    Chrono Trigger
    Final Fantasy II
    Final Fantasy III (US)
    Final Fantasy IV (Import)
    Final Fantasy V (import)
    Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest
    Live A Live
    Radical Dreamers
    Romancing SaGa
    Romancing SaGa 2
    Romancing SaGa 3
    Rudra no Hihou
    Secret of Evermore
    Secret of Mana
    Seiken Densetsu 3
    Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars

    Wireless
    Kingdom Hearts

    WonderSwan
    Hataraku Chocobo

    WonderSwan Color
    Blue Wing Blitz
    Final Fantasy
    Final Fantasy II
    Final Fantasy III (Import)
    Final Fantasy IV
    Front Mission
    Makai Toushi SaGa
    Wild Card
    http://games.ign.com/objects/025/025065.html

    And lastly these are the games listed for just Enix.

    Games Published

    Game Boy Advance
    Dragon Quest Monsters: Caravan Heart

    Game Boy Color
    Dragon Warrior I & II
    Dragon Warrior III
    Dragon Warrior Monsters 2: Cobi's Journey
    Dragon Warrior Monsters 2: Tara's Adventure
    Star Ocean: Blue Sphere

    NES
    Dragon Warrior II
    Dragon Warrior III
    Dragon Warrior IV
    Itadaki Street 2
    Thexder

    Nintendo 64
    Mischief Makers
    Wonder Project J2

    PC
    Cross Gate

    PlayStation
    Blade Arts
    Bust A Groove 2
    Dragon Quest IV
    Dragon Warrior VII
    Hello Charlie!!
    Itadaki Street: Gorgeous King
    Murder on the Eurasia Express
    Planet Laika
    Pop'N Tanks!
    Torneko: The Last Hope
    Valkyrie Profile

    PlayStation 2
    0 Story
    Dance Summit 2001: Bust A Move
    Dramatic Soccer Game: Nihon Daihyo-senshu Ni Narou!
    Endnesia
    Grandia Xtreme
    Itadaki Street 3
    Online Pro Wrestling: The Champion of the Network
    Orega Kantoku Da! Gekitou Pennant Race
    Robot Alchemical Drive
    Super Galdelic Hour
    The Fear
    Zoku Segare Ijiri

    Saturn
    Tales of Seven-Wind Island

    Super NES
    ActRaiser
    ActRaiser 2
    Brain Lord
    Dragon Quest I & II
    Dragon Quest III
    Dragon Quest V
    Dragon Quest VI
    Dragon Warrior VI
    EVO: Search for Eden
    Illusion of Gaia
    King Arthur: The Knights of Justice
    Robotrek
    Soul Blazer
    Star Ocean
    Terranigma
    The 7th Saga
    The 7th Saga 2: Mystic Ark
    Wonder Project J
    Games Developed

    Game Boy Advance
    Dragon Quest Monsters: Caravan Heart

    Game Boy Color
    Dragon Warrior I & II
    Dragon Warrior III
    Dragon Warrior Monsters
    Dragon Warrior Monsters 2: Cobi's Journey
    Dragon Warrior Monsters 2: Tara's Adventure

    NES
    Dragon Warrior
    Dragon Warrior II
    Dragon Warrior III
    Dragon Warrior IV

    Nintendo 64
    Wonder Project J2

    PC
    Cross Gate

    PlayStation
    Blade Arts
    Bust A Groove
    Bust A Groove 2
    Dragon Quest IV
    Dragon Warrior VII
    Hello Charlie!!
    Murder on the Eurasia Express
    Pop'N Tanks!
    Star Ocean: The Second Story
    Torneko: The Last Hope

    PlayStation 2
    Orega Kantoku Da! Gekitou Pennant Race
    Robot Alchemical Drive
    Super Galdelic Hour
    Zoku Segare Ijiri

    Super NES
    Brain Lord
    Dragon Quest I & II
    Dragon Quest III
    Dragon Quest V
    Dragon Quest VI
    Dragon Warrior VI
    Illusion of Gaia
    King Arthur: The Knights of Justice
    Soul Blazer
    The 7th Saga
    The 7th Saga 2: Mystic Ark
    Wonder Project J
    http://games.ign.com/objects/025/025026.html

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    Square was responsible for the spawning the Breath of Fire series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroyd
    Square was responsible for the spawning the Breath of Fire series.

    I'm not worthy... I'm not worthy...
    One of those amusing little "didja know that" things. Though that game was terribly unbalanced (Karn was WAY too powerful), and the story was rather ethereal at best, it was still pretty fun.

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    Brave Fencer Musashi
    Bushido Blade
    Chrono Cross
    Chrono Trigger
    Legend of Mana
    Parasite Eve
    Parasite Eve II
    Saga Frontier
    Saga Frontier 2
    Threads of Fate
    Vagrant Story
    Xenogears
    These titles were great. Besides Kingdom Hearts and FFX, the PS2 square titles just don't stack up to them.

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    People may hate on square...but there making tons of money and selling tons of games....

    u make hate their games..think there not as good as the oldies...but a lot of people like em...and that's what matters...

    show me another company that can release so many games that most sell over 1mill!!!!
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    Like ive said many a time, Millions of people Buy a 50 cent album, But real Hip Hop Heads will tell you he doesnt make the hottest records!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasimpse
    Like ive said many a time, Millions of people Buy a 50 cent album, But real Hip Hop Heads will tell you he doesnt make the hottest records!
    Does 50 cent care either way...hes still making money...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris
    The Shadowy Taint of Fanal Fantasy: Spirits Within is long my friend.
    the one final fantasy that i want erased from my 10 million Tera Hertz processing brain, with 1 billion terabytes worth of storage space.

    Sometimes i have nightmares about that movie.... and not because it wasn't scary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedos
    Tri-Ace is a part of Enix, always has been.
    Well if that is the case then why does the copyright on their website say Tri Ace and not Square Enix? http://www.tri-ace.com/ Scroll down to the bottom of the page.

    Square Enix doesn't own Game Arts as far as I know, they are still independent, and so is Tri Ace. In fact, it was mentioned in the very source from this thread that MS is publishing Tri Ace's 360 rpg and not Square Enix, though Square Enix is publishing Game Arts Project Slyph.

    And I agree with WhatRuOn. The merger with Enix has really hampered the kinds of games that made Squaresoft a rockstar of game development last gen. Square used to far and away be my favorite game developer, right now, I don't know who I'd consider my favorite game developer (Nautilus ranks pretty high up there, and if Final Fantasy XII turns out to be as great a game as it could be, Square will have regained some of my favor).

    But really though, you can't even compare this generation's (Square) Enix rpgs with Squaresoft's of last generation. During the PS1, we got three Final Fantasies, a Chrono Cross, a Xenogears, a Vagrant Story, Final Fantasy Tactics, and a Saga Frontier (a favorite of mine), all of which were gold. This gen from Square we get, what, Final Fantasy X and X-2, Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2, Unlimited Saga, Romancing Saga, is that it? That hardly compares with last gen's best from the house that Final Fantasy built.
    You are not kidding I was in RPG heaven on the PS1. Square could just do no wrong on the PS1 and it was great. You can't really argue against that point because of the three real Final Fantasy games alone. Not to mention the laundry list of other games you mention. That Vagrant Story was my favorite it was simply awesome. It just seems like after the Final Fantasy movie bust thing that Square just stop putting out as many games, at least to me. I hope they go back to the old ways with next gen consoles.

    As far as Square doing RPG's on X360 I think if it were doing better in Japan then it will be a no brainer. However, since they are collecting dust there it just doesn't look very promising. Only time will tell though.
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