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    Quote Originally Posted by fireras View Post
    If you are complaining that Sony is ******ed for pricing the PSPgo at $250 and the PSP-3000 at $169, please take a minute to analyze the situation. Best Buy, GameSpot, Toys-R-Us, Walmart...what do these retailers have in common? If you said none of them want to carry the PSPgo, you are 100% correct. Sony is taking a big risk with the PSPgo because the device takes a huge cut on retailers bottom line and it effectively kills the PSP used games business. Now where would Sony sell it's PSPgo if no one wants to carry it?

    To keep retailers happy, Sony will continue to produce and promote the current PSP because if they don't they will lose retailer support. A big part of keeping retailers happy is also the price. You cannot make the PSPgo more attractive than the current PSP and expect retailers not to be concerned. Even the pricing of the games on the PSN has a lot of retailer influence. However, if the PSPgo takes off best believe that the PSP-3000 will be discontinued and retailers will have no choice but to carry it similar to the iPod (which retailers don't make any money on and it also cuts into their bottom line because of the iTunes Store).

    So the next time you want to complain about the PSPgo's retail price, place blame on your retailers instead because if it wasn't for them. The PSPgo would be a lot cheaper, giving Sony a bigger target audience and a bigger profit on the games.
    I agree and PSPgo will be a good lesson to us to show all those M$ stiffs that think the future of consoles is DLC only because they don't have blu-ray. The PSPgo right now only lets you get games by downloading it. There are a couple of problems with this.

    1. You can't share games.
    2. If for some reason your PSPgo dies and you need to get a replacement, you lose all your games and you have to download ALL of them again. You can't just replace it with a new one and start playing your games again.
    3. People like to walk into a store to pick up a game immediately versus having to wait for a game to download.
    4. Retailers will hate this because they can't make their money from game sales which are considerably higher margin (profit) than the machine itself.

    Even when internet speeds are faster, we will still have some sort of physical game delivery system. Unless we are talking about a game downloading in less than 1min or something.

    If Sony is smart, they will sell games on the MS micro so retailers can still get a chunk of the revenue pie.

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    Had $250 and already had a PS3....what to do with the money? I never jumped onto the PSP bandwagon when it came out in 2006. I knew Sony would eventually make a newer/better version. I win. Well worth the price for someone that has never bought the original one and did not invest in UMD disks. It is still the only quality handheld out there as well. The other handhelds games look like pixelated crap. I will be happy downloading content from the PSN store that does not burn my eyes when I try to play it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by unicron7 View Post
    Had $250 and already had a PS3....what to do with the money? I never jumped onto the PSP bandwagon when it came out in 2006. I knew Sony would eventually make a newer/better version. I win. Well worth the price for someone that has never bought the original one and did not invest in UMD disks. It is still the only quality handheld out there as well. The other handhelds games look like pixelated crap. I will be happy downloading content from the PSN store that does not burn my eyes when I try to play it.

    you shoulda jumped on the psp bandwagon when it came out you missed alot CFW custom apps ect. and that is a bad price when the original one is 169 dollars



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    Quote Originally Posted by Seahawkk View Post
    you shoulda jumped on the psp bandwagon when it came out you missed alot CFW custom apps ect. and that is a bad price when the original one is 169 dollars
    I like the new version though. $250, well worth it. Plus I don't have to deal with those crappy UMD disks. That is wayyy better. Cheaper software is great.


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    Quote Originally Posted by unicron7 View Post
    I like the new version though. $250, well worth it. Plus I don't have to deal with those crappy UMD disks. That is wayyy better. Cheaper software is great.
    Buy a 3000 and save some money. You still don't have to buy UMD. 3000 will do download games as well. Just buy a big memory stick, still ends up being cheaper then a Go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smarty2322 View Post
    psp go will work with gran turismo on ps3,something about it being a rear view mirror.
    yeah im looking forward to that. although i still disagree about the price as its still overpriced imo

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    I still hate it to death. LOL. I don't want the industry to head in this direction at all. No games on demand for me. No PSP Go crap. I happen to really like the fact that I can buy a relatively new but previously owned game, play it for a week, and trade it in and still get $35 back for it to put towards other games. But if Sony and MS sell new releases in digital format for $30 or less, I will buy them maybe. But not with the trade it rates I'm getting for some games. Forget it.

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    Amazon has a deal on PSPgo for $248.99

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    Amazon has a deal on PSPgo for $248.99

    I just picked one up at Amazon.

    amazon.com/gp/product/B002CZ918S?ie=UTF8&tag=21661111-20

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbrtchng View Post
    In my opinion, the Go's price is a rip off the same way that the original Ipod was a rip off. The analogy is the PSP is to the PSP Go just as the CD players are to Ipods.

    The Ipods are more expensive than the CD players by a lot, but it still sold very well. It's because the Ipods and the Go are much more portable than its counterparts. The only question is how important are gaming on the go?
    If you knew how expensive the CD players with "shock proof", "controllers" and "some virtual bass enhancer" were, you wouldn't being saying the IPod was overpriced.

    The high end CD players were only slighty cheaper than the IPods but lost in many many other sectors.

    Don't get me wrong though, I'm agreeing with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babybell View Post
    With a PSP4000 anounced and coming sometime soon, it sounds like there is even less reason to buy the PSPGo! The biggest thing for me about the Go though is that it doesnt really have any advantages over the 3000, other than the lack of physical media. The battery life is still the same, (which is terriable) while they say that a large number of PSP titles will be ready for release I doubt there will be a huge libary of games on the PSN store. (Almost 3 years in and there are only 50 PS1 classics. This is why I have little faith in Sony dilivering with the PSP titles) The games are going to be more expensive through DD. (look at the 360 and their games on demand and then the price of a hard copy.)

    Thats probably taking things off topic going on about the device. But is the price justified? I would be intrested to see how much profit sony are making on each PSPGo. (if any.) I quite like my PSP, I just dont see any reason why as a current PSP user I would want to upgrade. As a new owner I wouldnt want to spend more on games just because there in a digital format.

    I want the PSP to do well, Helps keep Nintendo and apple on their toes. The compatition means we get better features as they try to out do each other. I just dont want the PSPGo to succed because I really dont want to see a fully DD future for gaming any time soon. (Since I have a hunch that if the PSPGo sells welll and does well, then maybe Sony would consider it as an option for the PS4.)

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    Even if there is a DD only PS4 you can bet there will be a disc based PS4. The world is not ready for DD only consoles as yet. Nor is most of the world ready for a DD only PSP. This is why the PSP-3000 / PSP-4000 will remain relevant. And we won't be ready for DD only in 5 years either. I mean in several markets in the world high speed internet is still scare. DD only PS4 will effectively mean less sales for Sony in markets outside of the US & EU. If anything we will see the PS4 launch the way the PSP is rite now. Go + PSP-3000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireras View Post
    Even if there is a DD only PS4 you can bet there will be a disc based PS4. The world is not ready for DD only consoles as yet. Nor is most of the world ready for a DD only PSP. This is why the PSP-3000 / PSP-4000 will remain relevant. And we won't be ready for DD only in 5 years either. I mean in several markets in the world high speed internet is still scare. DD only PS4 will effectively mean less sales for Sony in markets outside of the US & EU. If anything we will see the PS4 launch the way the PSP is rite now. Go + PSP-3000.
    Not to mention many that have high speed internet also have a monthly gig cap on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireras View Post
    Even if there is a DD only PS4 you can bet there will be a disc based PS4. The world is not ready for DD only consoles as yet. Nor is most of the world ready for a DD only PSP. This is why the PSP-3000 / PSP-4000 will remain relevant. And we won't be ready for DD only in 5 years either. I mean in several markets in the world high speed internet is still scare. DD only PS4 will effectively mean less sales for Sony in markets outside of the US & EU. If anything we will see the PS4 launch the way the PSP is rite now. Go + PSP-3000.
    I cant see Sony releasing two versions of the PS4. It would be cheaper just to include the disc drive in the machine, or have it as a removeable drive.

    While there are lots of reasons why its still too early for a full DD system, the PSP could be considered a test bed to see how well a fully DD machine will do. Thats one of the reasons why Im hoping it doesnt do well.

    Lets face it we are heading towards a DD future. Games and movies on demand, PSN/Arcade titles, Steam as well I suppose.

    One of the ways to slow it down will be to buy the PSN games that get released on disc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babybell View Post
    I cant see Sony releasing two versions of the PS4. It would be cheaper just to include the disc drive in the machine, or have it as a removeable drive.

    While there are lots of reasons why its still too early for a full DD system, the PSP could be considered a test bed to see how well a fully DD machine will do. Thats one of the reasons why Im hoping it doesnt do well.

    Lets face it we are heading towards a DD future. Games and movies on demand, PSN/Arcade titles, Steam as well I suppose.

    One of the ways to slow it down will be to buy the PSN games that get released on disc.
    True but like I'm sure the Go! won't sell well outside of 1st world countries. Sony is getting smart though and I think they are on the brink of a rebirth. And I think it's gonna come from a combination of PSP + PS Store + PSN. They might even finally kill the Walkman brand in favor of the PSP brand. I think PSP might be a more powerful and relevant brand in these days than Walkman is. And the Go is a direct competitor to the iPod. All the cards are in place, the only piece of the puzzle left for Sony to add, is music on the PS Store. We are seeing from Sony what they have been trying to do for years now. Convergence and connectivity of all their divisions. That being said, the Go! will be successful in the US & EU atleast. And it will help propel the PSN even further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireras View Post
    True but like I'm sure the Go! won't sell well outside of 1st world countries. Sony is getting smart though and I think they are on the brink of a rebirth. And I think it's gonna come from a combination of PSP + PS Store + PSN. They might even finally kill the Walkman brand in favor of the PSP brand. I think PSP might be a more powerful and relevant brand in these days than Walkman is. And the Go is a direct competitor to the iPod. All the cards are in place, the only piece of the puzzle left for Sony to add, is music on the PS Store. We are seeing from Sony what they have been trying to do for years now. Convergence and connectivity of all their divisions. That being said, the Go! will be successful in the US & EU atleast. And it will help propel the PSN even further.
    If I remember correctly at the moment the IPod Touch 32 gb is cheaper than the PSP Go? I'll have to double check that to be sure. I would love to see the PSP have a good scrap against the IPod, but if the battery life is still the same then I would rather stick to using my touch than the PSP.

    Also Sony will have a lot of catching up to do with Apple in regards to offering Apps and a downloadable music service. Considering how long it has taken for them with the PSN, I cant see much of an insentive to take the Go over the Itouch. I can see Sony getting there eventually, the PSN store/network has improved greatly. It just took forever for it to reach where it is today,

    This is purley from a music/media view here. Gaming wise I think I would probably chose the Go over the touch just because of having the buttons to press and it doesnt feel as cramped using it. (Not that I have handled a go. I suppose I should say Im comparing the itouch to the PSP 2000 wich i currently own)

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    PSP Go - $250
    PS3 - $300

    Ummmmm, where the hell is the $50 difference? PSP Go has no blu-ray, only 16gb of storage, downloads only, still just a single analog stick........

    Sorry, but the Go is a huge rip-off!!!!!!! $199.99 is the most I will ever pay for that PSP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babybell View Post
    I cant see Sony releasing two versions of the PS4. It would be cheaper just to include the disc drive in the machine, or have it as a removeable drive.

    While there are lots of reasons why its still too early for a full DD system, the PSP could be considered a test bed to see how well a fully DD machine will do. Thats one of the reasons why Im hoping it doesnt do well.

    Lets face it we are heading towards a DD future. Games and movies on demand, PSN/Arcade titles, Steam as well I suppose.

    One of the ways to slow it down will be to buy the PSN games that get released on disc.
    Its hard to use the PSP Go as a test bed for a console DD only. Many people are willing to have a hand held do DD only because its easier than caring media around with them. But their home console is another story. PSN is more of the test bed with games like Warhawk and Socom being on there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal_NFS View Post
    PSP Go - $250
    PS3 - $300

    Ummmmm, where the hell is the $50 difference? PSP Go has no blu-ray, only 16gb of storage, downloads only, still just a single analog stick........

    Sorry, but the Go is a huge rip-off!!!!!!! $199.99 is the most I will ever pay for that PSP.
    Nobody thinks like this. When I bought my iPod Classic I didn't think...iPod Classic $250, X360 $300. Nobody thinks like that. If you want a PSP you will buy a PSP, if you want a PS3 your will buy a PS3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireras View Post
    Nobody thinks like this. When I bought my iPod Classic I didn't think...iPod Classic $250, X360 $300. Nobody thinks like that. If you want a PSP you will buy a PSP, if you want a PS3 your will buy a PS3.

    Who compares an ipod to a 360? Video games is to video games. The PSP Go is priced too high for what it is. I explained perfectly why it is priced too high to sell enough to profit off of it. People can get a PS3 for a mere $50 more. Plus the PSP is nothing but PS2 graphics on a small screen. Thanks, but no thanks. No until the price drops down.

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    Here is my problem. PSP GO will have all games priced at 20. However, eventually it might be possible to get the same games preowned/used for regular PSP for even cheaper.
    Since I buy most of my games used, regular PSP seems like like better deal for me. Also, you can trade them in if you don't like them any more so you save. And if not used, then some stores might carry them cheaper.

    My only gripe with the Regular PSP is that it is just too big carry in your pocket, compared to the PSP GO.

    Stoffinator, how is PSP GO Cheaper than the regular PSP? 16GB memory stick costs like $150 at future shop, and $150 + $170 = $320 compared to $250 that PSP GO costs. Or am I missing something?

    EDIT: Alright I found 16GB stick cheaper at best buy for $135, so that plus 170 is $305, still $45 more expensive than PSP GO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonlps3 View Post
    I agree and PSPgo will be a good lesson to us to show all those MS stiffs that think the future of consoles is DLC only because they don't have blu-ray. The PSPgo right now only lets you get games by downloading it. There are a couple of problems with this.

    1. You can't share games.
    2. If for some reason your PSPgo dies and you need to get a replacement, you lose all your games and you have to download ALL of them again. You can't just replace it with a new one and start playing your games again.
    3. People like to walk into a store to pick up a game immediately versus having to wait for a game to download.
    4. Retailers will hate this because they can't make their money from game sales which are considerably higher margin (profit) than the machine itself.

    Even when internet speeds are faster, we will still have some sort of physical game delivery system. Unless we are talking about a game downloading in less than 1min or something.

    If Sony is smart, they will sell games on the MS micro so retailers can still get a chunk of the revenue pie.
    1. This is really annoying indeed. I always share games with my friends, it's just something gamers do to not spend so much money.
    2. This is a pro and con. I mean you're looking at it if PSP breaks, but DD prevents the chance of your games breaking. So if your PSP breaks, you just need to spend time to redownload everything. But if your game disc break, you have to buy it all over again.
    3. I actually hate having to drive so freaking far to buy a game especially if I read something online that makes me want a game. (especially since stores in my city all close at 9).
    4. Yeah, retailers shall suffer, oh well. I'm not a retailer. But gamers and publishers won't. Steam is a DD service that works very well for gamers. But yeah, a moment of silence for Gamestop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal_NFS View Post
    Who compares an ipod to a 360? Video games is to video games. The PSP Go is priced too high for what it is. I explained perfectly why it is priced too high to sell enough to profit off of it. People can get a PS3 for a mere $50 more. Plus the PSP is nothing but PS2 graphics on a small screen. Thanks, but no thanks. No until the price drops down.
    I did not compare and iPod to a 360. I'm letting you know that most people get something because they want/need it. If you want a PS3 you get a PS3. If you want a PSP you get a PSP. If you want both you get both. Albeit you might not get them both at the same time but ultimately you will. The PSPgo is overpriced yes, but that won't Sony from selling millions this Christmas (if they can keep up with demand). I have a PSP already so I'm in no rush to get a Go! but I know that eventually I might cave and get one. I think its too expensive and a step back but I also understand the business decisions that went into the pricing.

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