Android Phone Thread

[jj03]

go with someone else. my mate picked a gs2 for 28 quid a month with vodafone
yesterday...or you could as to speak to retentions. i use to manage a cpw store so i have a fair idea how things go...i certainly wouldn't take a gs2 at 37 pm. thats mental given the gs3 will be with us in under 3 months...as for the iphone, personally, i think they have always been overpriced..certainly, to me they are bland and quite restrictive.
The dude abides....

[yourmumsface17]

go with someone else. my mate picked a gs2 for 28 quid a month with vodafone
yesterday...or you could as to speak to retentions. i use to manage a cpw store so i have a fair idea how things go...i certainly wouldn't take a gs2 at 37 pm. thats mental given the gs3 will be with us in under 3 months...as for the iphone, personally, i think they have always been overpriced..certainly, to me they are bland and quite restrictive.
The dude abides....

Aaah ok thanks

I will let the contract run out and see if they make any effort to offer me a new deal (Who do I think I am, Paul Pogba? )

If they don't, will cancel the direct debit and see if I can get a Galaxy on the cheap.

[jj03]

i know tesco do the gs2 for £20.00 pm and its a unbranded unit. also, cpw can upgrade your contract, and quite possibly offer you a better deal.

The dude abides....

[yourmumsface17]

i know tesco do the gs2 for £20.00 pm and its a unbranded unit. also, cpw can upgrade your contract, and quite possibly offer you a better deal.

The dude abides....

That's an excellent offer from Tesco, are they good to go with? I can't imagine a contract with Tesco

Yeah I went and spoke to CPW, and they pretty much offered me what they are offering everyone, nothing special, I'm gonna let the contract run low and see what they do to keep me.

[TetanossauroRex]

Not with the stock app as far as i know.

Try another SMS app perhaps.

Well, that's unfortunate. I like the stock keyboard.

New paragraph? You texting a novel? Call the person if its gonna be THAT long......
In all seriousness tho, I'm not aware of a way to do this other then a bunch of spaces.

It's cheaper to send a SMS.

[admartian]

Ugh wth.

Even though I'm gonna get pissed with it because of touchwhizz, it's better than my stock gingerbread atm lol

Hurry up Samsung

Stock Gingerbread? No themes or anything?

If you're inclined to stay on stock GB, but want a different look to your phone, you should check out Vertumus' themes over on XDA.

Hey guys, due a phone upgrade next week, torn between I phone 4s and the Samsung Galaxy.

I use my phone, for internet lots, like to browse Twitter and go on forums if I can on the phone; I like to use music.

So any particular pick? Sorry to ask, I just am out of the loop with phones.

Browsing? I'd say go for a high end Android phone. The SGS2 has an excellent stock browser (HW accelerated) plus if you're doing it A LOT, then flash is a must.

Well, that's unfortunate. I like the stock keyboard.



It's cheaper to send a SMS.

Keyboard is retained even if you change SMS apps.

[PeanutButterMunky]

Why is everyone still talking about mobile flash? Mobile flash is on the verge of death. Adobe is no longer going to be making mobile flash. That will no longer be a "selling point" in the near future. Enjoy the mobile flash while you still can.

[admartian]

Why is everyone still talking about mobile flash? Mobile flash is on the verge of death. Adobe is no longer going to be making mobile flash. That will no longer be a "selling point" in the near future. Enjoy the mobile flash while you still can.

In the future? Sure. But how many websites, HONESTLY, use HTML5 fully and without the need for flash?

It's inevitable, but not for some time yet. Adobe can drop support all they want, but it's up to developers to implement it in force.

Plus things like online-GIS still require some sort of Flash.

Either way, flash or not, I'd still recommend an Android phone such as an SGS2 for mobile browsing over an iPhone.

EDIT:

If you're going to address a post I made about flash, please don't use the passive-aggressive 'Why is everyone...' tact when you were clearly trying to dispute an individual, and that no one has mentioned flash apart from that post.

Courage, next time.

[Nitey]

Stock Gingerbread? No themes or anything?

If you're inclined to stay on stock GB, but want a different look to your phone, you should check out Vertumus' themes over on XDA..

Nah I don't have any themes or anything. I rooted my S2 shortly after I got it and messed around finding a rom that suits me but there was such a huge pool of roms to choose from I couldn't really stick to one, so just went back to the S2 official gingerbread rom and been on it since

Having said all that I'm not a fan of the touchwhizz UI after seeing and experiencing others, so despite me using it right now, I would have liked the official S2 ICS update to be without it. The way it looks and functions on the google nexus is how I would like it on my phone but Samsung wont allow it

Could use something like cyanogen 9 or something, I think it's called, but having really kept up with all that

[admartian]

Nah I don't have any themes or anything. I rooted my S2 shortly after I got it and messed around finding a rom that suits me but there was such a huge pool of roms to choose from I couldn't really stick to one, so just went back to the S2 official gingerbread rom and been on it since

Having said all that I'm not a fan of the touchwhizz UI after seeing and experiencing others, so despite me using it right now, I would have liked the official S2 ICS update to be without it. The way it looks and functions on the google nexus is how I would like it on my phone but Samsung wont allow it

Could use something like cyanogen 9 or something, I think it's called, but having really kept up with all that

If you want a more ICS/AOSP look then I would definitely reccomend this theme: ICS Domination - assuming you're currently rooted of course.

Otherwise, there's a number of CyanogenMod 9 (CM9) and Android Open Kang Project (AOKP) roms out on XDA that you may like.

Main downside though, seeing as Samsung hasn't released kernel sources, the USB mount and Video Camera (although regular camera works) doesn't work.

There is also the XXLPH builds for ICS ROMS which everything works, and is 99% almost as stable as stock.

[PeanutButterMunky]

EDIT:

If you're going to address a post I made about flash, please don't use the passive-aggressive 'Why is everyone...' tact when you were clearly trying to dispute an individual, and that no one has mentioned flash apart from that post.

Courage, next time.

WTF are you talking about? You're not the only one discussing flash. I have no problems pressing the quote button.

And yes, it will take time for web developers to move over to HTML5. Regardless, flash on mobile is going bye bye... so whether they're slow to convert or not is irrelevant. Mobile users on newer phones without mobile flash support are going to just have to wait it out for the lazy web devs to transfer over.

[Nitey]

If you want a more ICS/AOSP look then I would definitely reccomend this theme: ICS Domination - assuming you're currently rooted of course.

Otherwise, there's a number of CyanogenMod 9 (CM9) and Android Open Kang Project (AOKP) roms out on XDA that you may like.

Main downside though, seeing as Samsung hasn't released kernel sources, the USB mount and Video Camera (although regular camera works) doesn't work.

There is also the XXLPH builds for ICS ROMS which everything works, and is 99% almost as stable as stock.

Thanks for the advice! CM9, I think, looks the most attractive of the lot for me - I think I'll wait for the official ICS rom to come out, though, and see if I like it or not. If not I'll CM9 a go

[PeanutButterMunky]

Thanks for the advice! CM9, I think, looks the most attractive of the lot for me - I think I'll wait for the official ICS rom to come out, though, and see if I like it or not. If not I'll CM9 a go

Cyanogen has always been a stable and speedy ROM for me on several devices. It's definitely worth a try.

[admartian]

WTF are you talking about? You're not the only one discussing flash. I have no problems pressing the quote button.

And yes, it will take time for web developers to move over to HTML5. Regardless, flash on mobile is going bye bye... so whether they're slow to convert or not is irrelevant. Mobile users on newer phones without mobile flash support are going to just have to wait it out for the lazy web devs to transfer over.

In the internet, of course not. But you're not pressing a 'REPLY TO THE INTERNET' button are you? Either way...

And no it isn't irrelevant, yet.

You haven't really stated anything apart from reinforce my point (see above) that it's still largely relevant now. And until developers jump on board in significant numbers, it will continue to exist and be relevant, despite lack of Adobe support.

(please don't make me repeat myself again )

Thanks for the advice! CM9, I think, looks the most attractive of the lot for me - I think I'll wait for the official ICS rom to come out, though, and see if I like it or not. If not I'll CM9 a go

I recommend CM9 if you're happy without having a Videocam.

[Pez_555]

browsing the web is definitely choppier on my S2 than my 4S, not sure if flash has anything to do with it though, im not too clued up on stuff like that.

[admartian]

browsing the web is definitely choppier on my S2 than my 4S, not sure if flash has anything to do with it though, im not too clued up on stuff like that.

Weird.

Really smooth here, and never had complaints regarding the browser (at least on official releases)...


EDIT:

Tried it again, even on gametrailers (desktop version) on my phone and it's not choppy AT ALL scrolling up and down even w/ the video playing.

Hm...

[faaeng]

People still talk about mobile flash because until all websites move to HTML-5 without any need for flash at all, flash is still NEEDED if people wish to view websites in their entirety.

Flash doesn't magically become unneeded by people just because Apple says so. Tho they sure did a great job in making people believe it is nolonger needed/wanted.

Flash is all over the web. Practically every website uses flash. How much of the web relies on pure HTML-5 without the need of flash inorder to see and press the button to switch to HTML-5 mode?

Flash sucks. Don't get me wrong. Its bad and has been for along time, but I can't use a browser without it....

[nofear01]

browsing the web is definitely choppier on my S2 than my 4S, not sure if flash has anything to do with it though, im not too clued up on stuff like that.

Do you use stock browser or a download? I use Dolphin and it's as smooth as you like.

[PeanutButterMunky]

People still talk about mobile flash because until all websites move to HTML-5 without any need for flash at all, flash is still NEEDED if people wish to view websites in their entirety.

Flash doesn't magically become unneeded by people just because Apple says so. Tho they sure did a great job in making people believe it is nolonger needed/wanted.

Flash is all over the web. Practically every website uses flash. How much of the web relies on pure HTML-5 without the need of flash inorder to see and press the button to switch to HTML-5 mode?

Flash sucks. Don't get me wrong. Its bad and has been for along time, but I can't use a browser without it....

It's not because "Apple said so". Adobe announced they're no longer going to be making flash for mobile. I didn't say flash is going away, I said flash for mobile is going away. Enjoy the ability to view websites in their entirety while you still can. I don't get what the hell is so hard to understand about this: http://phandroid.com/2011/11/09/adob...ead-on-html-5/

[jj03]

the browser of the sgs2 is defo amongst the best i have used. its incredibly quick of h+, and even 3g...good ol hardware excelleration.

The dude abides....

[admartian]

It's not because "Apple said so". Adobe announced they're no longer going to be making flash for mobile. I didn't say flash is going away, I said flash for mobile is going away. Enjoy the ability to view websites in their entirety while you still can. I don't get what the hell is so hard to understand about this: http://phandroid.com/2011/11/09/adob...ead-on-html-5/

No we understand that. I don't think that's what we were contending at all...

I do agree that a lot are easily manipulated by Apple and do/don't simply because Apple said so though.

First it was that people didn't read; then they magically do on the onset of them selling the iPad as a reader.

And most recently, now that Apple has an HD resolution on the iPad, they suddenly believe that this is now 'critical'; where before they dismissed it as un-necessary.

*sigh*


Oh well, I can't certainly change your mind (nor did I intend to) or get your chin of their sack, so I'll leave you to it.

Do you use stock browser or a download? I use Dolphin and it's as smooth as you like.

Nah I tend to use stock these days, a lot less bloated looking.

Dolphin is probably the best browser on mobiles, but I find myself not even installing an alternative seeing as the stock browser is really fast anyway.

I don't really use the extra plugins and features (ahh the beauty of choice ) that they offer either.

In saying that, I'd download the Chrome browser beta if it had flash support.

Flash sucks. Don't get me wrong. Its bad and has been for along time, but I can't use a browser without it....

HTML5 seems a lot simpler though.

A lot of integral geospatial services require flash still, but services such as openlayers and geodatabses created from SVG are tending to ove away from a flashbased model.

[PeanutButterMunky]

No we understand that. I don't think that's what we were contending at all...

I do agree that a lot are easily manipulated by Apple and do/don't simply because Apple said so though.

First it was that people didn't read; then they magically do on the onset of them selling the iPad as a reader.

And most recently, now that Apple has an HD resolution on the iPad, they suddenly believe that this is now 'critical'; where before they dismissed it as un-necessary.

*sigh*

All valid points until you sullied them with this:

or get your chin of their sack, so I'll leave you to it.

I mean... really? I've owned Blackberries and Android phones and Apple phones and shitty flip phones, etc.. I'm not biased with phones, I use whatever one currently suits my needs. I use an iPhone because I have a Mac at home that syncs my workflow to my phone and vice versa. I have a Kindle for reading books because the iPad backlight hurts my eyes to read for extended periods of time and e-ink is more preferable because I like reading the books over reading them on a device and the Kindle is pretty close to real text on paper.

I wasn't taking a stance for Apple, Adobe's decision had nothing to do with Apple... they did this on their own accord. It just seemed like people didn't understand this. Apple chooses to do whatever they feel like doing and they couldn't care less if it's parallel with current market trends because that's just their attitude... as retarded as that is. It seems to be serving them well, however.

[faaeng]

The biggest reason Adobe is moving away from mobile flash is because so many people think that it is nolonger needed/wanted anymore and most people only feel that way because Apple said so. HTML5 is the future yes, but not the now. So now they feel forced to switch to HTML5 dev for mobile sooner then they had hoped for. For better or worse, Apple was the pebble that caused the ripple effect speeding up it's demise.

Regardless, something needed to happen cause mobile flash sucks. Hell, desktop flash sucks. I will enjoy it while it lasts, thank you. Hopefully when its gone completely in the near future it will no longer be needed to view websites in their entirety and HTML-5 will have more global adoption.

Anyways, now for why I came here.

**This is for rooted devices only**
If anyone has been having problems with their carrier throttling them give this a shot. Works for me.

**Must be done BEFORE you are throttled. If your already throttled you will not notice until u should be throttled the next billing cycle**

-Using a root explorer go to data/system. You will see a folder titled "throttle" if you see 2 you are most likely already throttled.
-mount /data partition as read/write and delete the contents of these folders.
-now change the folder permissions from read/write/execute to just read/execute.
-reboot and enjoy stickin it to the man. :beer:

[admartian]

All valid points until you sullied them with this:<BR><BR><BR><BR>I mean... really? I've owned Blackberries and Android phones and Apple phones and shitty flip phones, etc.. I'm not biased with phones, I use whatever one currently suits my needs. I use an iPhone because I have a Mac at home that syncs my workflow to my phone and vice versa. I have a Kindle for reading books because the iPad backlight hurts my eyes to read for extended periods of time and e-ink is more preferable because I like reading the books over reading them on a device and the Kindle is pretty close to real text on paper.<BR><BR>I wasn't taking a stance for Apple, Adobe's decision had nothing to do with Apple... they did this on their own accord. It just seemed like people didn't understand this. Apple chooses to do whatever they feel like doing and they couldn't care less if it's parallel with current market trends because that's just their attitude... as retarded as that is. It seems to be serving them well, however.

Fair enough I guess. I apologise for the earleir comment. To be fair though, it's hard to distinguish from Apple-fanboys (or fanpoeple in general) jumping and FUD'ing in threads - as I find this odd as I don't tend to do this myself.



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The biggest reason Adobe is moving away from mobile flash is because so many people think that it is nolonger needed/wanted and most people only feel that way because Apple said so. So now they feel forced to switch to HTML5 dev for mobile sooner then they had hoped for. <BR><BR>For better or worse, Apple was the pebble that caused the ripple effect speeding up it's demise. Regardless, something needed to happen cause mobile flash sucks. Hell, desktop flash sucks. I will enjoy it while it lasts, thank you. Hopefully when its gone completely in the near future it will no longer be needed to view websites in their entirety and HTML-5 will have more global adoption.<BR><BR>Anyways, now for why I came here. <IMG class=inlineimg title="" border=0 alt="" src="images/smilies/icon_razz.gif" smilieid="5"><BR><BR>**This is for rooted devices only**<BR>If anyone has been having problems with their carrier throttling them give this a shot. Works for me.<BR><BR>**Must be done BEFORE you are throttled. If your already throttled you will not notice until u should be throttled the next billing cycle**<BR><BR>-Using a root explorer go to data/system. You will see a folder titled "throttle" if you see 2 you are most likely already throttled.<BR>-mount /data partition as read/write and delete the contents of these folders.<BR>-now change the folder permissions from read/write/execute to just read/execute.<BR>-reboot and enjoy stickin it to the man. :beer:

<BR><BR> Can't be that easy... Can it?

[faaeng]

At the current moment, it appears it can... :what: lol

AT&T WAS throttling me at just over 2gb for the past few months. It was rather annoying. I was able to hit my normal average usage of 8.6gb last month unthrottled because of this. Future testing may be needed.

What appears to be happening is something in the OS file "system.jar" is monitoring of your data usage and writing these files to the throttle folder which keeps track of your usage to your limit. Changing the permission allows "system.jar" to continue monitoring your usage but doesn't allow it to write said usage files to the folder so it stops those files from being reporting whether you should be throttled or not.

I'm sure carriers will patch this up eventually. Especially if more and more people catch wind of it, but for now, so far so good for me. :thumbup:

**(edited)**
THIS new info MAY be the culprit as to why I wasn't throttled. Some are thinking that the data may actually be tied to your devices IMEI and that swapping your sim into another device will reset the limit.

If true, this makes sense in my case seeing as I randomly swap devices out... If anyone is throttled, try swapping your sim into another device. Send a couple texts/ phone calls so the new IMEI registers and see if you are still throttled. If Not, we may have a winner. Swap back, send some texts/calls to register ur IMEI back and test again.

Ill not swap devices this month and see if my original trick still works by itself. If I am still throttled Ill try swapping devices to test the new info.

Testing Testing...