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    Doctors find 50 sewing needles inside Brazil toddler

    http://www.mnn.com/lifestyle/health/...brazil-toddler

    A 2-year-old Brazilian boy has as many as 50 metal sewing needles inside his body and a doctor treating the boy said Wednesday they were apparently stuck there one by one.

    Dr. Luiz Cesar Soltoski told The Associated Press that surgeons hope to remove most of the needles some as long as 2 inches (5 centimeters) but because some are stuck in his lungs, they have to wait until the child's breathing improves.

    Some cannot be removed; they are too close to vital organs or actually inside them, Soltoski said.

    The boy's mother, a maid, brought him to a hospital in the small northeastern city of Ibotirama on Thursday, saying he was complaining of pain. Three days later, after X-rays revealed some of the needles, doctors had him shifted to a larger hospital in Barreiras.

    The mother told police she doesn't know how the needles got inside her son, but police have opened an investigation. The boy's name was withheld because of his age.

    The boy's father, Gessivaldo Alves, told Brazil's A Tarde newspaper that he believes his son could have been a victim of a black magic ritual. Alves said he visited the home where the boy was living with his mother and stepfather and found unspecified items that could be used for black magic, A Tarde reported.

    Police statements so far have not mentioned a possible cause for the needles and the police inspector in charge of the case, Helder Fernandes Santana, did not immediately return telephone messages left Wednesday seeking comment.

    Soltoski said he believes the needles were stuck into the child's body one by one because it would have been impossible for him to swallow them.

    "We think it could have only been by penetration because we found needles in the lung, the left leg and in different parts of the thorax. It couldn't have been by ingestion," Soltoski said.

    Doctors found no signs of outside wounds on the boy, but X-ray images carried by Brazilian Web sites clearly showed some of the needles inside his body.

    The boy is in intensive care, but Soltoski said his condition has improved since he was admitted.
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    That is so sick its unbelievable, horrible to think that what has been done to him is nothing compared to other peoples sufferings...
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    Well, we all know it's not black magic. I didn't even know people believed in that stuff in Brazil.

    The parents could have done it, more specifically the father and he's trying to cover it up with a story. Though it could have easily be someone else. Anyways, the point is whoever did it is a sick ****.

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    I think its suspicious that they "can't" be removed. I think its more likely doctors refuse to take certain needles out because of the RISK.

    Thats fine, except the kid will grow, organs and all, we should expect that growing or even moving the wrong way could kill him. Better that they TRY and FAIL than to just say "its too risky"

    compared to what? its not too risky compared to LEAVING them there, which is just as certain a death, if not as quick. Doctors let people die because surgery is "too risky", risky to what? The surgeons malpractice insurance rates?

    because whatever risks exist for surgery/removal exist for walking, jumping, etc. One needle will move into a fatal position. The only risks incurred are those to the patient, considering the DIRE circumstances, it should be his or his guardian that makes that decision, not some impersonal drone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    Well, we all know it's not black magic. I didn't even know people believed in that stuff in Brazil.

    The parents could have done it, more specifically the father and he's trying to cover it up with a story. Though it could have easily be someone else. Anyways, the point is whoever did it is a sick ****.
    Well, what the parents are saying is that somewhere they where, other people tried to perform black magic, and sticking needles in him could have been part of their "ritual"


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    That's quite disturbing...poor kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackBauerCTU View Post
    I think its suspicious that they "can't" be removed. I think its more likely doctors refuse to take certain needles out because of the RISK.

    Thats fine, except the kid will grow, organs and all, we should expect that growing or even moving the wrong way could kill him. Better that they TRY and FAIL than to just say "its too risky"

    compared to what? its not too risky compared to LEAVING them there, which is just as certain a death, if not as quick. Doctors let people die because surgery is "too risky", risky to what? The surgeons malpractice insurance rates?

    because whatever risks exist for surgery/removal exist for walking, jumping, etc. One needle will move into a fatal position. The only risks incurred are those to the patient, considering the DIRE circumstances, it should be his or his guardian that makes that decision, not some impersonal drone.
    I thought that is why they have parents, wife, husband, or the main guardian sign something so they can't be sued. If those doctors/surgeons wont remove those needles, then they are horrible doctors/surgeons and shouldn't have a medical degree if they are scared to do it.

    time to bring that child to a hospital in America or whatever to have a better surgeon work on him.

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    Well doctors in America do it too. Inoperable tumors aren't neccessarily inoperable, doctors mean the risk of death from surgery is too high, so they refuse to try. But the risk of death from surgery isn't as high as the certainty of death from X tumor. Doctors perform doable surgeries to lower malpractice rates or to increase patient survival rates.

    They pretend they'd be stealing what time X patient has left, but they're just protecting themselves. Even with consent, hospitals, individual doctors, even states/countries can have X guidelines.

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    This is really sad. I hope the doctors do everything humanly possible to help this kid out..and I also hope that whoever did this brought to justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackBauerCTU View Post
    Well doctors in America do it too. Inoperable tumors aren't neccessarily inoperable, doctors mean the risk of death from surgery is too high, so they refuse to try. But the risk of death from surgery isn't as high as the certainty of death from X tumor. Doctors perform doable surgeries to lower malpractice rates or to increase patient survival rates.

    They pretend they'd be stealing what time X patient has left, but they're just protecting themselves. Even with consent, hospitals, individual doctors, even states/countries can have X guidelines.

    That's why they make the guardian of the child sign a paper so they can't sue them. If you sign something and you know there is a percentage chance that the person could die, you sign the paper because it protects the people performing the surgery. The problem here with these needles is they have to be taken out. What if the kid decided to sleep on his stomach or his digestive track messed up one day, it could be the most painful thing that child ever witnessed. Not only that but those needles can put a whole causing stomach acid to leak out or it could creat such a hole to where your stomach becomes weaker causing the acid to eat away throughout that hole making an even bigger hole causing yet again, another painful death.

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    good job parenting ...your 2 year old son gets 50 sewing needles stuck into him and you have no idea how or when they got there?


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    Its not just about being sued. Surgeons statistical success rate is lowered, makes them look less skilled, less eligible for promotion, a book deal, and higher insurance rates, etc.

    A surgeon who looses a patient has lost more than being sued to worry about, 1 in 10 patients lost looks worse than 0 out of 10. Imagine if you performed 20 highly succesful surgeries, thats 20 to 0, kind of like a rockstar, 20 to 4 patients lost is a huge differences.

    So sometimes even *skilled* surgeons sometimes refuse dangerous operations, not only because of patient risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackBauerCTU View Post
    Its not just about being sued. Surgeons statistical success rate is lowered, makes them look less skilled, less eligible for promotion, a book deal, and higher insurance rates, etc.

    A surgeon who looses a patient has lost more than being sued to worry about, 1 in 10 patients lost looks worse than 0 out of 10. Imagine if you performed 20 highly succesful surgeries, thats 20 to 0, kind of like a rockstar, 20 to 4 patients lost is a huge differences.

    So sometimes even *skilled* surgeons sometimes refuse dangerous operations, not only because of patient risk.
    Doesn't that also depend on a successful percentage rate if the person could survive or not? I would think it would depend on the survival rate of such a surgery. So basically if the survival rate of such was higher and the person died then I could see the insurance go up a bit. however, if the survival rate was really low, then the insurance shouldn't look at it since the possibility of the child surviving it would again be low.

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    Brazil 'needle boy' out of danger
    Doctors in Brazil say a two-year-old boy who was pierced with at least 31 sewing needles is out of danger following a third successful operation.

    Surgeons in Salvador de Bahia have decided to not remove the remaining few needles left in the boy for now.

    The boy's stepfather Roberto Carlos Magalhaes, 30, has confessed to inserting the needles into the boy's body as part of a black magic ritual.

    He said he did it as a means of taking revenge on his wife.

    Doctor Roque Aras said the remaining needles were small and posed no significant threat, the Associated Press news agency reported.

    'Happy ending'

    However the unnamed boy may still have to undergo more operations in the future.

    On Monday, doctors took out four needles from the child's neck.

    In an earlier three-hour operation, surgeons took out 14 needles piercing the boy's liver, bladder and intestines.

    Four needles which had come perilously close to his heart and lungs were removed during an initial operation last week.

    Surgeon Jose Siqueira said he was optimistic following the third surgery, AFP reported.

    "We think that this child's story will have a happy ending", he said.

    Mr Magalhaes told Brazil's Globo TV that he inserted the needles one at a time, up to three times in a month.

    He said he got the boy drunk before driving the needles in.

    Mr Magalhaes, 30, and his lover Angelina Ribeiro dos Santos have been formally charged with attempted murder.

    Police said Mr Magalhaes, a bricklayer, told them his mistress had urged him to ritually kill the child to take revenge on his wife.

    The boy's mother had taken him to hospital in the north-eastern state of Bahia, suffering from stomach pains and vomiting.

    She suspected the child had been the victim of a black magic ritual after she found suspicious objects in the home she shared with Mr Magalhaes - her husband of six months - and her six children.

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    you know, they should just shoot that guy right in the damn head, seriously. He admitted it, I hope he gets more then prison time. I mean, what kind of revenge is that, he obviously knew the boy could die. This world be a lot better without people like that scumbag. hopefully the people in prison hear about this crap. or maybe make him swallow 150 needles.

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