Comprehensive review of Windows Phone 7 by Anandtech

**weskurtz81** · 10-21-2010

I haven't had the time to read the entire thing, but from what I have gathered so far, Microsoft hit a few home runs, besting Apple and Android in a few categories (according to Anand), and then in some other areas, they have some work to do.

What I was most surprised about was the fact that he said the UI makes iOS feel old and utilitarian.... He said that about a Microsoft product?

Here's the link, it's a long read, but he deserve the clicks for putting together such a thorough review.

**[DT]** · 10-21-2010

Awesome, I was hoping for a good/legit review. The normal channels like Engadget are kind of fragmented with multiple reviews, half-arsed hardware assessment, etc.

**SolidSnakeUS** · 10-21-2010

Anandtech is usually reliable and honestly, I think I'm impressed. I mean, I don't think it will get me away from wanting an Android phone, but damn this is a nice OS.

**Tutankhamun** · 10-21-2010

I'll Instapaper it, from what I've heard Windows Phone 7 looks to be very legit I think it might do well. From what I've seen I'd take Windows Mobile Phone 7 over Android. But I still don't know if they have advertised this thing right, I mean I use my phone because I want to not because I have to. Interesting that MS seems to take the minimalist style with this, usually that has never been their style.

**squirrelbo1** · 10-21-2010

o ****. better than iOS design ways ? thats a ****ing BIG statement. If its true, then DAMN, ms has really pulled the cat out of the proverbial bag.

now all we have to see is how the app market develops. If they get some decent stuff on that side of things then they could be a serious player.

ill need to go and have a play on one somewhere.

**SolidSnakeUS** · 10-21-2010

Originally Posted by Tutankhamun

I'll Instapaper it, from what I've heard Windows Phone 7 looks to be very legit I think it might do well. From what I've seen I'd take Windows Mobile Phone 7 over Android. But I still don't know if they have advertised this thing right, I mean I use my phone because I want to not because I have to. Interesting that MS seems to take the minimalist style with this, usually that has never been their style.

More than likely because WM 6.5 and under have been way too much of a mess, I guess too much for them to handle. So they went this way and probably struck real gold with it. Also, I hate the fact that it's GSM only until the beginning of next year...

**Tutankhamun** · 10-21-2010

Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS

More than likely because WM 6.5 and under have been way too much of a mess, I guess too much for them to handle. So they went this way and probably struck real gold with it. Also, I hate the fact that it's GSM only until the beginning of next year...

I think its a wise decision, lets hope for their sake they can do better adverts than the last one and that the hardware will be good. I think MS would have been better off building their own phone.

**SolidSnakeUS** · 10-21-2010

Originally Posted by Tutankhamun

I think its a wise decision, lets hope for their sake they can do better adverts than the last one and that the hardware will be good. I think MS would have been better off building their own phone.

I find that letting other companies have your OS, with minor to some restrictions of course, and let them duke it out also makes more money for MS and also for the other cell companies as well. So it's a win win. Apple has the idea to pretty keep much all their hardware and OS in-house, it's how they roll, but remember, that is a downside as well. Also, if they built their own phone, look at how well the 360 turned out when it first got shipped (failure rate I mean).

**Tutankhamun** · 10-21-2010

Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS

I find that letting other companies have your OS, with minor to some restrictions of course, and let them duke it out also makes more money for MS and also for the other cell companies as well. So it's a win win. Apple has the idea to pretty keep much all their hardware and OS in-house, it's how they roll, but remember, that is a downside as well. Also, if they built their own phone, look at how well the 360 turned out when it first got shipped (failure rate I mean).

I think it will make them less money, now they only make money from licensing the OS and since Google is giving their away that's going to be hard. If they sold a complete hardware phone I think they would make more money from that. As for failure rate you can always invest in more checks etc before the products hits retail.

**weskurtz81** · 10-21-2010

Originally Posted by Tutankhamun

I think it will make them less money, now they only make money from licensing the OS and since Google is giving their away that's going to be hard. If they sold a complete hardware phone I think they would make more money from that. As for failure rate you can always invest in more checks etc before the products hits retail.

Yeah, I think I might agree here. Clearly, the Apple business model of making the hardware and software is paying off big time, and licensing the OS IS going to slow down sales, but if it's truly that good (and it gets better), and people want it, OEM's will license it and sell it.

**Tutankhamun** · 10-21-2010

Originally Posted by weskurtz81

Yeah, I think I might agree here. Clearly, the Apple business model of making the hardware and software is paying off big time, and licensing the OS IS going to slow down sales, but if it's truly that good (and it gets better), and people want it, OEM's will license it and sell it.

True, but how will MS convince OEM's that they should license this instead of Android? Sure maybe around 10-15% will know the difference between the OS their phone uses so many OEM's might be tempted to go with the free option. But who knows maybe MS is building their own hardware. Heck, they probably have a few prototypes down in the basement.

**SolidSnakeUS** · 10-21-2010

Originally Posted by Tutankhamun

True, but how will MS convince OEM's that they should license this instead of Android? Sure maybe around 10-15% will know the difference between the OS their phone uses so many OEM's might be tempted to go with the free option. But who knows maybe MS is building their own hardware. Heck, they probably have a few prototypes down in the basement.

It's not licensing this INSTEAD of Android, it's along side of it. Seriously, the more options the better.

**Tutankhamun** · 10-21-2010

Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS

It's not licensing this INSTEAD of Android, it's along side of it. Seriously, the more options the better.

Are OEM's going to do two versions of one phone one with Android and one with WMP7? That seems like quite the task. Maybe they will though I don't know but I can't see it. Options are good for the market but somehow I don't think MS cares about that

**weskurtz81** · 10-22-2010

Originally Posted by Tutankhamun

Are OEM's going to do two versions of one phone one with Android and one with WMP7? That seems like quite the task. Maybe they will though I don't know but I can't see it. Options are good for the market but somehow I don't think MS cares about that

If customers want to buy it, they will make it. They aren't in the business of telling customers what they should buy or making things people don't want, they are in the business of making stuff that customers demand. So, if Microsoft manages to create demand for the devices, or if the demand already exists, OEM's will provide the product.