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How much "bragging" can MS do about WW numbers though? Judging the console race by one market is being shortsighted. Thats like saying Sony is winning because theyre outselling all the other home consoles in Japan. lol It would be cool to have WW numbers every month. I'm sure 360 is leading but I bet its closer than people think.
Last edited by mistercrow; 05-11-2012 at 21:39.
And, just for the record, last year 2011, the PS3 sold 14.1 million units.
The 360 sold 14.9 million.
Even with Japan, thats getting beaten.
As for the 1/4 results, both companies posted their worst Jan-March, although Sony have always been tradtionally better in this 1/4, what I really think we are seeing is the peak of this gen.
I think we maybe going down the other side of sales curve now.
05-11-2012 #607Soldier 95BGuest
If the difference is 3.3 million after all these years, I am pretty confident that I would consider this a tie for this gen, IMO. Both have NAILED it on coming out with great games and continue to do so.
There are additional reasons for the original xbox's slow uptake, but they don't necessarily relate to the same area I just talked about.
if anything i was agreeing with matrix. what sony achieved with the ps1 and what ms achieved with the 360 were two very different thingsGot YLOD? In the UK? I'll buy it off you.
I see your point but I don't think we can really weigh everything together because while some things were at an advantage back in the day, others weren't.
For example, PS1 and N64 had to deal with not having an online component so games had to rely heavily on single player gameplay. There weren't many other things to attract the consumers either when it came to the consoles (such as netflix/facebook/movies/streaming off PC etc.).
Not to mention, Sony didn't have the money like MS did. Though if it weren't for MS' money, it wouldn't have been possible. I think with Live, it's clear that MS was in a good shape to bring something to the table. They had the money to spend on that and the expertise. They had the money to buy off studios in the beginning years. They had the money to make exclusive deals.
If it were any other company, they would not have survived imo so it's almost like MS had the right recipe.
I think it was tougher for MS because they came into a market that was heavily run by the Japanese developers (back in the day) and they wanted to cater to the western part of the world only. It just happens so that the western developers had a huge rise this generation and online became the next best thing...which were both favorable to MS.
Though I think both MS and Sony had a tough time breaking into this. Sony was more successful though because they did go against the biggest giant in the industry and took it by storm. MS needed a bit of money, skill and some luck to get where they are. Not saying Sony didn't need luck against Nintendo but they won that fair and square...came out with a hardware and software that was better suited for the mainstream, worked better with developers than Nintendo ever did and really started the western dominance in the gaming industry.
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CoD success in the NA market has shaped what were seeing today.
If CoD was a runaway success in Asian markets and smaller Pal regions and flopped in NA it wouldn't have the same impact because those markets aren't going to have the same effect the NA market has. Same with console sales if Sony didn't sell a single PS3 in Japan I don't think that's going to change what the PS3 is to a European consumer at least not in a large way.
So i can see why different markets get sort of discredited in a way by some people.
And I sort of find it funny that some posters here will hold onto WW numbers looking for PS3 to close the gap with the Asian markets so they can claim a PS3 win and really, not to open a can of worms here, it doesn't matter if PS3 out sold the 360 by 20 million if those sales are in a market with little impact to what we get in west, nor would I care if 360 outsold PS3 by 20 million in that market because again there little influence on what MS will offer to the western market because of it.
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Sales are tricky because they do not necessarily equal one system really being better. What I mean is when the gap is a few million and a difference of a year in release dates it can be argued that it is a tie. Yes, different markets can have a bigger influence, but sales are sales. Business is a global market. NA may decide what is being made and what direction gaming goes more heavily than some other parts of the world, but then again sales as a whole determine investing and what works for everyone. Now, I think that 360 and ps3 are pretty much even. In ways they have done well and in ways they have not. For myself I would say they have failed to make many games that have captivated me like the previous gens. Note that I am only 19 so maybe age plays a factor, but I still don't think it is that big of a deal. Besides Gears 1 - 3, Bioshock 1, and Skyrim I am not wowed by other games the way I was with PS2 games. There are other games I enjoyed a lot for both ps3 and 360 but they weren't that impacting on me. I feel that what is more important that sales of consoles is the reaction to the games on them. I feel that ps3 leads in some genres and 360 in others. This is more important cause this is a truer gauge of where types of gamers will flock to if the next ps or xbox begin to cater to certain genres more.
05-30-2012 #615Microsoft’s latest sales update shows the Xbox 360 gaining traction every year since launch.
Microsoft’s Interactive Entertainment Division marketing chief Yusuf Mehdi revealed the figures in a post on Microsoft’s Technet blog.
“Since 2005 – when we launched Xbox 360 – we have sold 67 million consoles and have generated more than $56 billion at retail, and we’re still going strong in our seventh year,” Mehdi said.
“With 47% share of the current-generation console market, we are hitting our stride largely as a result of the success of Kinect for Xbox 360 (19 million sold) and the flood of new entertainment options through Xbox LIVE (40 million members).”
The executive said increasing engagement with entertainment has driven the Xbox 360′s longevity.
“Sales for Xbox 360 in year five were greater than in year four, sales in year six were greater than in year five, and sales in year seven were greater than in year six,” he noted.
Mehdi also made a few promises about Microsoft’s E3 2012 presentation.
“We’ll unveil new games, show new ways to enjoy the entertainment you love and, as always, we’ll have a few surprises to share,” he said.
Delightful. Microsoft’s press conference is scheduled for June 4, at 9:30AM PT.
Thanks, Joystiq.Thanks to Kwes for the signature!
05-30-2012 #618Soldier 95BGuest
05-30-2012 #620Soldier 95BGuest
I am surprised that the Xbox 360 in second place this gen.
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Last edited by Soldier 95B; 05-30-2012 at 20:41.
Absolutely NO mention of PS3, Wii, DS, PSP, etc... in the thread. The discussion will revolve around the numbers posted for the 360 and what it means. In the past, the threads turned into instant comparison threads, got derailed, then closed. No one wants that. So to avoid it, no one is allowed to post things like "well the PS3 sold ### two weeks earlier than 360 did at the same point in its life"... not only is the number meaningless, it brings the PS3 into a discussion that it does not belong to.Thanks to Kwes for the signature!
Like I said in the other thread, "Public Relations."
Hey guys, how can we make our numbers look drastically better than the other guys'?
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