Today we have two Vietnam's, living side by side, Noth and South....

[weskurtz81]

... BRILLIANT! I am glad a bunch of idiots just voted her back in!

[keefy]

How old is this because I am sure North and South Vietnam merged after the war.

[weskurtz81]

How old is this because I am sure North and South Vietnam merged after the war.

Exactly! Looks like it's from this summer. American politicians at their best! The funny part is, it doesn't even make the news!

[Vulgotha]

Uh yea Saigon fell, thousands were murdered. Nation was unified.

You don't have to be smart to get elected.

[weskurtz81]

Uh yea Saigon fell, thousands were murdered. Nation was unified.

You don't have to be smart to get elected.

And, in her case, re-elected, over and over again. Most people in Houston are not a fan of hers. She shows up to funerals uninvited, used public money to travel to MJ's funeral, and is known to be a bully to those people who go against her. She's a real piece of work.

[MrQuagmireGIGGETY]

nuke em

[Vulgotha]

Why.. Would she show up uninvited?

[-Kwesnoth-]

nuke em

Wait..what for?

[MiThRaZoR]

Wait..what for?

It's just the American way. lol

[keefy]

And, in her case, re-elected, over and over again. Most people in Houston are not a fan of hers. She shows up to funerals uninvited, used public money to travel to MJ's funeral, and is known to be a bully to those people who go against her. She's a real piece of work.

Nobody gets invited to funerals I have been to some and never got an invite.

[unicron7]

You don't have to be smart to get elected.

Yup. This past November election proved that. Wondering what other future plans the GOP have in store. Maybe we can squeeze in another 1 trillion dollar tax cut for the 2% again. I really hope the Tea Party clowns are happy with how things are going.

[Firefox]

Apparently she went to Yale?

[Vulgotha]

You wouldn't know it based on that speech.

I mean that isn't even a slip of the tongue, she's clearly talking about Vietnam.

WOW. This isn't the first time either get a load of this:

"And I thank you professor very much. I’m going to be engaging you with those very powerful numbers that you have offered on what the tea party recognizes, uh, or is recognized as. Might I add my own P.S.?All those who wore sheets a long time ago have now lifted them off and started wearing [applause], uh, clothing, uh, with a name, say, I am part of the tea party."



http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/16/sh...#ixzz1A79GTiLG


Even better!

“The Congressional bonehead award goes to Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) who, on a visit to JPL, asked if Mars Pathfinder had taken an image of the flag planted there in 1969 by Neil Armstrong! Quipped Rep. Vernon Ehlers (R-MI) to the Washington Times: “We just don’t teach enough science.” Worse, Jackson Lee, who represents Houston, is a member of the House Science Committee’s space subcommittee. Perhaps some committee reassignments are in order…”


http://www.zimbio.com/Congresswoman+...+NASA+Archives

[weskurtz81]

Nobody gets invited to funerals I have been to some and never got an invite.

Maybe uninvited wasn't the best way to say it. She shows up at funerals and acts like a clown. Seriously, she introduced a bill to the House of Representatives honoring Michael Jackson. Seriously, the dude didn't grow up or EVER live in her district and there was no need to insert politics into a funeral! She's a clown.... plain and simple.

Yup. This past November election proved that. Wondering what other future plans the GOP have in store. Maybe we can squeeze in another 1 trillion dollar tax cut for the 2% again. I really hope the Tea Party clowns are happy with how things are going.

LOL, this one goes both ways buddy! We can talk about tax cuts that you don't like, we can talk about spending I don't like. The tax cuts are ONLY a problem if the Federal Government doesn't control spending. And, quite frankly, if they had the additional $100 Billion a year (remember, it's only $1 trillion estimated over 10 years, not every year), they would simply spend it.

As far as the "tea party clowns", what have they done so far that makes them clowns? I am very interested to see what legislation you can provide that shows they are "clowns".

Apparently she went to Yale?

Whaaaaaaaaat?!

[unicron7]

As far as the "tea party clowns", what have they done so far that makes them clowns? I am very interested to see what legislation you can provide that shows they are "clowns".

Oh nothing really, just their actions at every tea party rally I have ever watched on television/seen in person. The misinformation that they spew in order to justify hatred towards a single individual,/party, is pretty sickening to watch. One giant crybaby tantrum spread out over 2 years so far over a guy they didn't like getting elected, and hatred for someone trying to give free health care to the less fortunate without even knowing all the details. Adhering to propaganda. If I hear one more "Obama is not a real U.S. citizen" or "Obamacare murders the elderly" comment again, I think I'm gonna die of laughter. I do not like it when a group of individuals tell a woman what to do with her body, how to feel and mindlessly follow political candidates due to their religious allegiance. These monsters will vote to help people that need it the least, and do everything in their power to stomp on the middle class. What I find really strange is that most of the people screaming at these rallies are middle class Americans. Maybe they should realize who is really screwing them over. It's definitely not an individual or political party. Lobbyists. Money is what matters, not the citizens. I don't blame any political party anymore. They are all corrupt. I think the tea party movement is not being run by every day people however. The people are reacting to whatever BS has been spoon fed to them. People fail to use logic. Simple logic when examining situations and information.

This guy says it better than I ever could. I miss George.

[weskurtz81]

Oh nothing really, just their actions at every tea party rally I have ever watched on television/seen in person. The misinformation that they spew in order to justify hatred towards a single individual,/party, is pretty sickening to watch.

Yeah, because ONE party has a monopoly on misinformation! Come on! For every example you give me of one politicians skewing facts, I will give you one from the 'other' party.

One giant crybaby tantrum spread out over 2 years so far over a guy they didn't like getting elected, and hatred for someone trying to give free health care to the less fortunate without even knowing all the details.

Meh, the tea party had plenty of valid points. As far as the dislike for Obama, meh, nothing new when it comes to the minority party. And, free health care, what free health care? Neither party fully supported the health care bill for one reason or another, and that includes the public option. Plus, we simply cannot afford it right now.

Adhering to propaganda. If I hear one more "Obama is not a real U.S. citizen" or "Obamacare murders the elderly" comment again, I think I'm gonna die of laughter.

Meh, you will always here it, and he might not have been born here (by accident), but I am sure he was meant to be born here and it's not like he spent much time outside of the US growing up. Sure, while the citizenship claim might be uncommon, there are claims similar in nature made about every President by the opposing party.... nothing new here.

do not like it when a group of individuals tell a woman what to do with her body, how to feel and mindlessly follow political candidates due to their religious allegiance.

You know, there are two very valid sides to this debate. While you say they are telling woman what to do, they might feel they are being the advocate for those without a voice... the unborn living child. Not voicing my position for or against here, but if you can't see both sides of this coin, well, you are blind.

These monsters will vote to help people that need it the least, and do everything in their power to stomp on the middle class.

I have responded to the middle class claim you have made before, it's nonsense. You are correct to a certain extent about the American middle class, but it's absolutely ludicrous to act like policies from ONLY one party have caused harm to the middle class.

Tell you what, I can point to Democratic policies that hurt the middle class, why don't you show me some Republican policies, or specifically tea party policies since that's what started the debate.

What I find really strange is that most of the people screaming at these rallies are middle class Americans. Maybe they should realize who is really screwing them over.

That mentality is EXACTLY how the system wants you to feel. There are some good people on both sides of the isle, there really are, but you are unable to see that. You buy into the party politics game, and that's exactly what they want. Rather than look at each individual, you look at the party and make your decision based on what you are told to believe about the candidate. That's a big part of the problem with our system, people don't know who they are electing, they vote for the party not the person.... and it's too bad.

It's definitely not an individual or political party. Lobbyists. Money is what matters, not the citizens. I don't blame any political party anymore. They are all corrupt. I think the tea party movement is not being run by every day people however. The people are reacting to whatever BS has been spoon fed to them. People fail to use logic. Simple logic when examining situations and information.

I went ahead and left what I typed above after I read this quoted part. I still think you vote party first, I see you criticize everything conservative and nothing liberal.

Now, answer me this. Do you think one party is more guilty of being influenced by lobbyists than the other? Do you think one party gets money from one industry more than another? If so, what industries?

Also.... George Carlin is great, loved the guy!

[unicron7]

I see you criticize everything conservative and nothing liberal.
Now, answer me this. Do you think one party is more guilty of being influenced by lobbyists than the other? Do you think one party gets money from one industry more than another? If so, what industries?

I'm not criticizing any political party. Just conservative thinkers (democrat or republican) and stupid people, and usually they coincide. They usually come across selfish in the way they portray themselves and we will gain nothing with the way they think. Wolves in sheeps clothing. They preach about helping their fellow man, but do little to nothing when it comes down to it. Dinosaurs in a modern age and beliefs based usually around religion. They want to keep people down and keep people stupid. It's pretty sad when you see in the news informed/intelligent people being labeled liberal elitists for just valuing education and reason. I don't want conservative BS forced on me in my personal life and through legislation. It's all about control. The less you know, the less control you have. I prefer to observe and study. Knowledge is power.

I think both parties receive the same amount of money and are both corrupt. No party receives more than the other. They are both equally garbage and in the pocket of the wealthy. As far as which industries they receive money from...heck, I think the correct question would be which ones don't? The country is long gone, and people who vote are only fooling themselves into thinking they are getting something accomplished. It's all a rigged game.

[weskurtz81]

I'm not criticizing any political party. Just conservative thinkers (democrat or republican) and stupid people, and usually they coincide. They usually come across selfish in the way they portray themselves and we will gain nothing with the way they think. Wolves in sheeps clothing. They preach about helping their fellow man, but do little to nothing when it comes down to it. Dinosaurs in a modern age and beliefs based usually around religion. They want to keep people down and keep people stupid. It's pretty sad when you see in the news informed/intelligent people being labeled liberal elitists for just valuing education and reason. I don't want conservative BS forced on me in my personal life and through legislation. It's all about control. The less you know, the less control you have. I prefer to observe and study. Knowledge is power.

See, there you go again. You are generalizing an entire group of people.

You say Conservatives are:

Conservative and stupid coincide
They are selfish
Wolves in sheep's clothing
Belief system based around religion
They want to keep people down and stupid
They look down on those that are educated

I say, you simply don't understand and you don't want to understand conservatism, and there are PLENTY of good ideas that would both help the country and the citizens within it that come from conservatives (as well as liberals). I am mostly conservative and don't fit that mold AT ALL. Seriously, you don't see me saying "Democrats/liberals are all.....".

Anyone can be stupid, people are generally selfish (I know plenty of people on BOTH sides of the isle that are selfish), plenty are uneducated, and people make decisions based on what they believe to be right/wrong and who are you to tell them what they believe is wrong? What legislation is a conservative trying to ram down your throat?

What you described is people in general, not one specific type of person.

I think both parties receive the same amount of money and are both corrupt. No party receives more than the other. They are both equally garbage and in the pocket of the wealthy. As far as which industries they receive money from...heck, I think the correct question would be which ones don't? The country is long gone, and people who vote are only fooling themselves into thinking they are getting something accomplished. It's all a rigged game.

I agree with most of that up to the point where you alluded to voting being pointless.

Edit: I do have one question though, if they are both in the pocket of the wealthy, how is it that one party can have the best interests of the common man at heart while the other doesn't? Don't the best interests of the common man conflict with the wealthy in your opinion?

[Funeralfog]

Yup. This past November election proved that. Wondering what other future plans the GOP have in store. Maybe we can squeeze in another 1 trillion dollar tax cut for the 2% again. I really hope the Tea Party clowns are happy with how things are going.

i'm sorry you think the majority of the nation are idiots because they don't like those pussy democrats...

[Firefox]

@weskurtz81 Now I can't say that Conservatives are selfish and self-interested but what I can say is that looking at the Republican Party's polices for the past few decades, you can say that they had many policies which were at severe odds with say the Tommy Douglas/Trudeau-era in Canada.

Nixon in Contrast to say Tommy Douglas.. right vs. left side of the spectrum, you could technically argue that Individual Rights and Equality was more of an importance to someone like Tommy Douglas than Nixon. Now there are many Conservative ideas that just make sense for a country! And some "left-leaning" ideas that wouldn't but studying the Canadian/American revolution from 1968 till now (course I took and loved in University ) I am more inclined to say that many of the modern left-leaning political parties (not ideologies) put a stronger on emphasis on it. Conservatism is not the problem..just look at Brian Mulroney, he is an example of a TRUE CONSERVATIVE economically with good ideas but he was more liberal socially.

So Conservatism is not the problem though parties like the Republicans just seem so seem at odds with public interests. The current scared, not willing to do anything Democrats apply as well.

Sorry for all the Canadian references.

You MUST listen to this re-enactment of the speech! Sums up politics!

[squirrelbo1]

***** be stupid

[unicron7]

i'm sorry you think the majority of the nation are idiots because they don't like those pussy democrats...

Not saying they are idiots because they don't like a certain group of individuals. Saying that because the majority are in this nation. Buffoons. The people could care less about what is going on as long as they can spend, consume and get what THEY want. What THEY deserve. They are blind to the massive screwing they are receiving from the wealthy, be it democrat or republican. What really bugs me about the Tea Party is that they only blame one person for our deficit, when in reality the administration before put it into a full on, out of control head dive. We've wasted money on unjust foreign wars, we've wasted money on tax cuts for people that do not need it. Heck the former Comptroller General, David Walker, was pretty much fired for not agreeing with the Bush administrations views on money. He even stated that Bush/Cheney said at one point "Deficits don't matter" when he brought up "tightening the belt". Where were the drum beaters then? Nobody said a peep when the good ol' boys were spending money. Now people want to complain. How convenient. This country is going to fail no matter what we argue about or discuss, because the people we elected, Democrat or Republican are only out for themselves and have been long bought. No party is innocent in this. They love what we are doing on here. Going at each other back and forth. Not directing any anger or resolution towards them. Pitting the lower classes against each other.

[Morganator]

Well unicron7. You are a walking case of contradictions. You have no clue what you're talking about. I don't have to pick anything you said apart when you're doing such a stand up job all by yourself.

[weskurtz81]

Not saying they are idiots because they don't like a certain group of individuals. Saying that because the majority are in this nation. Buffoons. The people could care less about what is going on as long as they can spend, consume and get what THEY want. What THEY deserve. They are blind to the massive screwing they are receiving from the wealthy, be it democrat or republican. What really bugs me about the Tea Party is that they only blame one person for our deficit, when in reality the administration before put it into a full on, out of control head dive. We've wasted money on unjust foreign wars, we've wasted money on tax cuts for people that do not need it. Heck the former Comptroller General, David Walker, was pretty much fired for not agreeing with the Bush administrations views on money. He even stated that Bush/Cheney said at one point "Deficits don't matter" when he brought up "tightening the belt". Where were the drum beaters then? Nobody said a peep when the good ol' boys were spending money. Now people want to complain. How convenient. This country is going to fail no matter what we argue about or discuss, because the people we elected, Democrat or Republican are only out for themselves and have been long bought. No party is innocent in this. They love what we are doing on here. Going at each other back and forth. Not directing any anger or resolution towards them. Pitting the lower classes against each other.

I have blamed Bush REPEATEDLY for his spending practices, although they were NOTHING in comparison to what's happening now.

I disagree, though, with lambasting the new guys who are yelling about the deficit because not enough people were doing it 5 years ago. These guys weren't in Congress, voters weren't focusing on the deficit, and people weren't elected primarily on controlling it, so there's a big difference in the political landscape between now and then.

[unicron7]

Well unicron7. You are a walking case of contradictions. You have no clue what you're talking about. I don't have to pick anything you said apart when you're doing such a stand up job all by yourself.

Whatever bro. I'm definitely not out to prove anything to you. I'm just speaking my mind on an open forum. The point is, no matter what we do, we are doomed due to the lack of leadership from all fronts, and our idiotic citizens. We pretty much destroyed our industry to appease other nations from 1999-2010, moving all of our middle class jobs/exports overseas. People are settling for less and less benefits and pay. At the same time people and government are spending more than they make, and not willing to be taxed any more at ALL, when we need more taxation. They have been for years and years.

The richer are getting richer and the poorer are getting poorer. There will soon be no middle class. Just those that are well to do and those that are not. No in between, kind of like current China. It's almost as if we are switching roles over the next 40 years from what we have now. We will be the ones working for $10 a day, with our standard of living cut to nothing, and China will be the ones benefiting. I think it's funny how many people are oblivious to this and just don't care.

Health care for our nations citizens is my utmost concern. My secondary concern above all else is our financial situation, for it is the key to all other programs and institutions improving. I would absolutely love a universal health care system if we could afford it, and people were willing to pay the taxes, but I am slowly realizing it will never happen. Definitely not in my lifetime anyway. Lobbyists, our love of spending, and our nations citizens lack of intelligence will be the end of us, definitely very very soon. No important programs that actually help us will come to pass until we have fixed government and it's people. The nation needs to understand just how bad the situation is, and I don't think they get it. Not one bit. I'm just setting back and bracing for impact. I wave the white flag.