Calling for better tools to manage threads.

[Tutankhamun]

So here's the problem, after you have posted a thread there's very little, as a member, you can do to manage it. You can(?) change the thread title on your own threads but not on inherited threads and that's about it. You can't add, modify or delete polls for example. You can't make sure that everyone see's edits you've made to the OP or to the last post.

I'm calling for a more modern and easy way to do all these things, I want to make it easier to change the thread title, I want the OP to be abele to add, delete and modify polls even if they are inherited. I also want to bump threads up the stack when an edit has been made.

Here's how that would work, you have a thread it has 3000 replies nothing has been posted for 3-days and you add an article or something to that effect the thread would be marked as unread for its subscribers and other users and it would show up in the 'Find New Posts' search as well. This would eliminate double posts entirely while making it easier to maintain "Official" threads.

I know this would be a lot of work but in the end I feel it would make the whole PSU experience better for its users and casual browsers while providing something modern and fairly unique to PSU.

[Cuguy]

Basically you want every member to have mod/admin rights to threads.

[Tutankhamun]

Basically you want every member to have mod/admin rights to threads.

I don't know about that, mods/admins should moderate and administrate threads I want every member to have better ways to manage the content they post.

[Tyrien]

He didn't say anything about being able to edit or remove posts from other members, nor did he ask to be able to move/merge/delete threads.

As for Tut's request to make thread self-bump themselves. That's unnecessary. A simple "added new info to the OP" works. Not a single mod will call you for double posting if you do this.

[Cuguy]

I wasn't clear, but those powers are right now, SMC/MOD/Admin limited.

At least some of what you asked... other parts would need more work to implement (auto bumping, etc..)

As Ty said... adding a new post notifying of the OP being updated is perfect. If they autobump, no threads would die as they should... the forum would constantly get cycled with ancient topics at the top

[Dave-The-Rave]

Yeah, don't ruin the New Posts feature..its the only one I use on the forum.

[Tutankhamun]

I wasn't clear, but those powers are right now, SMC/MOD/Admin limited.

Well not even admins can add new polls to threads after they have been created.

At least some of what you asked... other parts would need more work to implement (auto bumping, etc..)

As Ty said... adding a new post notifying of the OP being updated is perfect. If they autobump, no threads would die as they should... the forum would constantly get cycled with ancient topics at the top

Rules like necrobumping would still apply obviously You can make it so only people that are subscribed to the thread sees that the last or first post has been edited as well and skit it in the find news posts function.. But that's not the main issue, adding abilities to change thread titles and adding, editing and deleting polls is what the focus should be.

[Cuguy]

All I can say is see what Mr. B can offer in terms of this...

[VintageElise]

It does seem like a good idea. The thread titles and polls anyway. I don't think an autobump is a good idea though. Just make a post. If it's for a proper reason, the staff will be fine with it.

[Tutankhamun]

So what's a proper reason? Let's say there's an "official" thread where you isn't the OP and you have the last post but there hasn't been a post in one day is it okay to double post then?

[VintageElise]

So what's a proper reason? Let's say there's an "official" thread where you isn't the OP and you have the last post but there hasn't been a post in one day is it okay to double post then?

Well if it's an Official thread, it's the OP's responsibility to keep it updated. But in your scenario, I'd say yes. It's ok.

[Cuguy]

As long as the post is something like "information added to OP" not "BUMP" and no info added

Bumping JUST to get the thread noticed again, with no new information, is a rule violation


What if we were to find a shop/SP system that allows people to BUY the rights to do these things, no just as a function, but you have to post and gain SP in order to buy the ability to edit titles, etc...

[Tutankhamun]

What if we were to find a shop/SP system that allows people to BUY the rights to do these things, no just as a function, but you have to post and gain SP in order to buy the ability to edit titles, etc...

So there's two answers to that, if you want a class based system on the forum it's a good idea but if you don't, meaning that everyone should be able to do what, more or less, everyone can it's not a good idea. I rather have it so everyone can do manage threads the same way then doing it so you need to have posted X number of times so you can buy the right to change the title. But there's an argument for the other way, I just don't support it.

[Cuguy]

So there's two answers to that, if you want a class based system on the forum it's a good idea but if you don't, meaning that everyone should be able to do what, more or less, everyone can it's not a good idea. I rather have it so everyone can do manage threads the same way then doing it so you need to have posted X number of times so you can buy the right to change the title. But there's an argument for the other way, I just don't support it.

I can make the argument that if there was no organization to how users can modify their threads, it could cause confusion amongst some users.

Just sayin, some people hate it when WE change thread titles ONCE. Can you imagine someone changing their title at whim, three four times a week?

There would need to be guidelines, checks and balances for user level editing

[Tutankhamun]

I can make the argument that if there was no organization to how users can modify their threads, it could cause confusion amongst some users.

Just sayin, some people hate it when WE change thread titles ONCE. Can you imagine someone changing their title at whim, three four times a week?

There would need to be guidelines, checks and balances for user level editing

Agreed, should be like 2 times per month or something?

[Ixion]

As long as the post is something like "information added to OP" not "BUMP" and no info added

Bumping JUST to get the thread noticed again, with no new information, is a rule violation

We really should change the rule to something like this. The current rule disallows double-posting in any scenario whatsoever, even though most of the staff and most of the members feel double-posting is appropriate in the above situation.

We should simply prohibit double-posting unless substantial information is provided after a significant amount of time. Even though the rule is absolute right now, the staff is enforcing it via our judgement. So while there would be a gray area, at least we'd be moderating in accordance to the rule and what we feel is right.