General Politics Thread

**claud3** · 10-21-2012

Originally Posted by Sub-stance1

Not even close with that one. Syria?

I will let you think about that for a while and you will understand mate..

Syria, Iran, china, tiawan, the sea of armous and the centrepiece of it all this is Israel and one move on the chess board and that is maybe or maybe not put a strike on Iran for its peaceful nuclear program...

Syria was a lost cause even before the u.s helped the Arab spring two years ago. Ever since the assistance of Libya and the death of high rank enemies in Iraq, they the u.s.a knew change was needed and to get raid of the Egyptian leader and then the Libyan leader, the snowball effects would happen

So Syria next and tusina happened while the attack on the Syria happened back in 2011, with this the last grab off central power in the IRAN chokehold.

The u.s.a and allies all have lost... Because again, they are arming the enemy and trying to kill the enemy

**podsaurus** · 10-22-2012

Another night and another debacle of a debate. I'm not sure I'll even waste my time with this one. The past two have only proved that Obama and Romney are a couple of rude snots. Cutting each other off, blaming one another for all kinds of things. These people are the ones running this country? That's sad. I look forward to not voting for either one of them next month. I'll pick whoever a third candidate is on the ballot and if there is no one I'll write in a random name.

The whole political system is a joke.

**Vulgotha** · 10-22-2012

Originally Posted by podsaurus

Another night and another debacle of a debate. I'm not sure I'll even waste my time with this one. The past two have only proved that Obama and Romney are a couple of rude snots. Cutting each other off, blaming one another for all kinds of things. These people are the ones running this country? That's sad. I look forward to not voting for either one of them next month. I'll pick whoever a third candidate is on the ballot and if there is no one I'll write in a random name.

The whole political system is a joke.

Yep. Now all it takes is for people to get pissed off enough..

**Ixion** · 10-22-2012

Originally Posted by Vulgotha

Yep. Now all it takes is for people to get pissed off enough..

People are getting pissed off, but it's still bi-partisan. You have the Tea Party and Occupy Wallstreet. We need them to join together in anger. That's the only way this country will really change.

**MATRIX 2** · 10-22-2012

Originally Posted by Ixion

People are getting pissed off, but it's still bi-partisan. You have the Tea Party and Occupy Wallstreet. We need them to join together in anger. That's the only way this country will really change.

**BoyBettaKnow** · 10-22-2012

How many political parties are in the US? Here in the UK we have 3 'main' ones and a few other smaller parties but more often than not it is always either Labour or Conservative with us.

Apart from now when we have a Conservative-Liberal government... Sounds like an oxymoron, right?

**Vulgotha** · 10-22-2012

Chiefly? Two. Democratic and Republican party. There are small basically insignificant ones, like the Green and Libertarian parties.

What's interesting about the rest of the world is that the ideologies behind the words "liberal" or "conservative" differ rather greatly than over here. This causes some confusion when conversing with Europeans on my part.

**btbam** · 10-22-2012

Yup two main parties Democrat and Republican. I still want to vote Bull Moose this year

**Morganator** · 10-22-2012

Democan or Republicrat? It matters not which "side" you pick as the joke will be on you if you choose either of the approved mouth pieces.

**Ixion** · 10-22-2012

Originally Posted by MATRIX 2

I never said it was going to happen anytime soon. I'm saying it's the only way to induce real change.

**F34R** · 10-22-2012

Originally Posted by Ixion

I never said it was going to happen anytime soon. I'm saying it's the only way to induce real change.

Definitely nothing wrong with the way you said it.. and I'm positive the gif wasn't in relation to what you said. Just the idea that it would ever happen, the gif is against them actually doing it lol.

**podsaurus** · 10-22-2012

Originally Posted by btbam

Yup two main parties Democrat and Republican. I still want to vote Bull Moose this year

Me too! Anything other than demobrat and republican't

**btbam** · 10-23-2012

debate has not denigrated into fisticuffs yet....not bad.

**F34R** · 10-23-2012

Kinda good so far.

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**-Kwesnoth-** · 10-23-2012

Originally Posted by podsaurus

Another night and another debacle of a debate. I'm not sure I'll even waste my time with this one. The past two have only proved that Obama and Romney are a couple of rude snots. Cutting each other off, blaming one another for all kinds of things. These people are the ones running this country? That's sad. I look forward to not voting for either one of them next month. I'll pick whoever a third candidate is on the ballot and if there is no one I'll write in a random name.

The whole political system is a joke.

Vote Kevin Schmidt.

**DayWalker** · 10-23-2012

IMO Obama was clearly stronger on foreign policy tonight.

too bad everybody was watching MNF and Game 7 baseball

I'll say it again- had he come out like this in debate #1... this would be over.

**btbam** · 10-23-2012

Originally Posted by DayWalker

IMO Obama was clearly stronger on foreign policy tonight.

too bad everybody was watching MNF and Game 7 baseball

I'll say it again- had he come out like this in debate #1... this would be over.

I would agree. Romney has landed a couple haymakers, but overall he is getting pummeled. Its no match at all.

**Sub-stance1** · 10-23-2012

Romney needs to fire his foreign policy team. The things he said back in the primary has come back on him.

**F34R** · 10-23-2012

As long as they stay on foreign policy, I've like what Obama has said so far. Keep their punches out of it and you get to here more about them.

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**Sub-stance1** · 10-23-2012

Romney should of tried to bring up Bengazi more. He probably would of score more points. I think he just tried to play it safe tonight.

**Bio** · 10-23-2012

Surprised to see both a more moderate Romney but more surprised at how aggressive Obama was at Romney (while I get why he took that angle, perhaps too aggressive? Not sure). But far more importantly, very pleased to see less arguing and more discussion of the actual questions. Obama seemed more confident in his discussion points, Romney's stance on the auto bailout made sense, etc, whatever the case I'm gonna have to keep doing my research on this one.

I'll leave it at that. Regardless of who "won" this one, I felt like I got a lot out of their positions on this one, which was great and all I really cared about.

**btbam** · 10-23-2012

This debate was much more substantive than the other two. Both candidates got plenty of talking time, and presented their ideas on foreign policy without too much interruption. exactly how the debates should have been conducted. I think Romney did win some points on syria tonight. he outlined its importance to US strategy in the middle east and pretty clearly demonstrated how Obama's administration has not done too much to stop it. That being said i think Obama won on just about every other issue. That horses and bayonets comment wins the night.

**F34R** · 10-23-2012

If we could get a President that would do all the good things these two have said over the past month, we'd be an awesome country again.

**Sub-stance1** · 10-23-2012

Originally Posted by Bio

Surprised to see both a more moderate Romney but more surprised at how aggressive Obama was at Romney (maybe too much). But far more importantly, very pleased to see less arguing and more discussion of the actual questions. Obama seemed more confident in his discussion points, but I'm gonna have to keep doing my research on this one.

I'll leave it at that. I don't know who "won" this one, but I felt like I got a lot out of their positions on this one, which was great.

This was a certain victory for Obama. Romney disagrees with Obama's foreign policy but tonight he sat there and agreed with what he is doing. He basically just told everyone watching that Obama is doing a good job with foreign policy. Maybe that was a strategy from his camp but he totally was the opposite just a few weeks ago. And Mitt totally lied about that Auto loan.

**btbam** · 10-23-2012

Originally Posted by Sub-stance1

This was a certain victory for Obama. Romney disagrees with Obama's foreign policy but tonight he sat there and agreed with what he is doing. He basically just told everyone watching that Obama is doing a good job with foreign policy. Maybe that was a strategy from his camp but he totally was the opposite just a few weeks ago. And Mitt totally lied about that Auto loan.

Well romney was trying hard not to be painted as George Bush. If you look at his foreign policy its actually a lot like GWB In doing so, he ended up sounding a lot like Obama lol. I think he agreed with Obama tonight more than he did the past 6 month.