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    Quote Originally Posted by btbam View Post
    Well romney was trying hard not to be painted as George Bush. If you look at his foreign policy its actually a lot like GWB In doing so, he ended up sounding a lot like Obama lol. I think he agreed with Obama tonight more than he did the past 6 month.
    I know. That's why I said he was playing it safe. But months ago he was the total opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio View Post
    Yeah I also noticed that he did agree on a lot of stuff...which I could appreciate his candor for, I guess, but the amount of agreement probably did not work in his favor.
    Not at all because he basically just flip flopped again. but at this point I don't think it matters much. It probably won't move the dial for either one.

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    Doesnt matter.. whichever gets elected, we'll still be screwed.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Doesnt matter.. whichever gets elected, we'll still be screwed.
    We'd get along good in real life. That's what i say all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Doesnt matter.. whichever gets elected, we'll still be screwed.
    I doubt that. We will be fine under either one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    I doubt that. We will be fine under either one.
    I don't know about fine, we are screwed right now. We will limp along with either thats for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    I doubt that. We will be fine under either one.
    More debt, more taxes, .... .ah $#@!, the list could go on and on. I'm not sure what you consider "fine".




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    More debt, more taxes, .... .ah $#@!, the list could go on and on. I'm not sure what you consider "fine".
    We aren't doomed. We will be ok. We've overcome worse in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    We aren't doomed. We will be ok. We've overcome worse in the past.
    Such as when in history were we so many trillions in debt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Kwesnoth- View Post
    I don't know about fine, we are screwed right now. We will limp along with either thats for sure.
    We'll pull a Sony and "limp" for a while but I just hope we'll eventually do better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Kwesnoth- View Post
    Such as when in history were we so many trillions in debt?
    Probably never but its being tackled slowly but surely. It didn't get that way overnight so it will take some time to get it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    I doubt that. We will be fine under either one.
    Wow somebody is quite the optimist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bio
    Yep, NGP will retail at $300. We all know it's going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio View Post
    Wow somebody is quite the optimist.
    I'm glad he is though because it makes me believe a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Probably never but its being tackled slowly but surely. It didn't get that way overnight so it will take some time to get it down.
    Exactly how slowly can something be tackled before being constituted as getting worse? I'm all for optimism in dark times, but its time to realize that things are not getting better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio View Post
    Wow somebody is quite the optimist.
    I remember a certain Churchill quote from one of my Ranger instructors on my first day of RIP. It goes:

    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees an opportunity in every difficulty".

    It stuck with me.

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    Funny about this whole Detroit bailout issue, I don't recall Romney saying he wouldn't allow access to Federal funds, I only see him saying they should be forced into Bankruptcy (which, incidentally that's exactly what happened after numerous bailouts) rather than just be given "blank checks" directly from the tax payers. Can any of you calling him a liar provide evidence that he said he would not allow the Feds to provide funding AFTER the automakers entered bankruptcy protection? It looks to me like Romney's point is right on, if it were up to him they would have gone DIRECTLY into bankruptcy rather than bounce off the bottom with bailout after bailout.

    I do remember the Democrats though saying that they can't be allowed to go Bankrupt as no one would buy their cars.... funny thing was history was actually against them on that comment. It actually looked like Dems #1 supporters, Unions, didn't want their contracts torn up and they new they would be a big target in a bankruptcy court. So, how well did that prediction work out? No one is buying cars from GM are they.... oh wait, they are still selling plenty of cars... AMAZING!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    I remember a certain Churchill quote from one of my Ranger instructors on my first day of RIP. It goes:

    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees an opportunity in every difficulty".

    It stuck with me.
    This was the quote i forgot about. plus rep for excellent usage and refreshing my memory.

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    Great quote and I agree. I was, you know, just sayin'. I, too, hope there will be a timely recovery no matter who is in office.

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    Yep, NGP will retail at $300. We all know it's going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    I remember a certain Churchill quote from one of my Ranger instructors on my first day of RIP. It goes:

    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees an opportunity in every difficulty".

    It stuck with me.
    That's quite and inspiring quote


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    Quote Originally Posted by weskurtz81 View Post
    Funny about this whole Detroit bailout issue, I don't recall Romney saying he wouldn't allow access to Federal funds, I only see him saying they should be forced into Bankruptcy (which, incidentally that's exactly what happened after numerous bailouts) rather than just be given "blank checks" directly from the tax payers. Can any of you calling him a liar provide evidence that he said he would not allow the Feds to provide funding AFTER the automakers entered bankruptcy protection? It looks to me like Romney's point is right on, if it were up to him they would have gone DIRECTLY into bankruptcy rather than bounce off the bottom with bailout after bailout.

    I do remember the Democrats though saying that they can't be allowed to go Bankrupt as no one would buy their cars.... funny thing was history was actually against them on that comment. It actually looked like Dems #1 supporters, Unions, didn't want their contracts torn up and they new they would be a big target in a bankruptcy court. So, how well did that prediction work out? No one is buying cars from GM are they.... oh wait, they are still selling plenty of cars... AMAZING!!!!
    Bailing out the auto's was to get votes. Period. Otherwise, it would have went differently to help the country.




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    Quote Originally Posted by -Kwesnoth- View Post
    Such as when in history were we so many trillions in debt?
    The actual dollar amount is kind of irrelevant what really matters historically is how much proportionate debt to GDP we were at. It was far worse then it is now during WW2 for us, as an example.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    The actual dollar amount is kind of irrelevant what really matters historically is how much proportionate debt to GDP we were at. It was far worse then it is now during WW2 for us, as an example.
    Times were different back then, then they are now. People were more willing to make sacrifices for the good of the country, now people just want the hand outs and free stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Kwesnoth- View Post
    Times were different back then, then they are now. People were more willing to make sacrifices for the good of the country, now people just want the hand outs and free stuff.
    Some people are still willing to make sacrifices. The majority of people don't want hand outs and shouldn't be put in that category. The middle class is still the backbone of this country.

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    Well this year's election should be interesting, even though I cant vote. Turn 18 nov 28, by then the voting will be over. But still looks interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Bailing out the auto's was to get votes. Period. Otherwise, it would have went differently to help the country.
    Maybe, but it was still the right thing to do for the people. No one else stepped up to help.

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