General Politics Thread

[Bio]

Yeah I also noticed that he did agree on a lot of stuff...which I could appreciate his candor for, I guess, but the amount of agreement probably did not work in his favor.

[Silver_Knight]

If we could get a President that would do all the good things these two have said over the past month, we'd be an awesome country again.

I wish one would fall out of the race under the agreement that the other will follow some of his ideas. Best of both worlds.

[Sub-stance1]

Well romney was trying hard not to be painted as George Bush. If you look at his foreign policy its actually a lot like GWB In doing so, he ended up sounding a lot like Obama lol. I think he agreed with Obama tonight more than he did the past 6 month.

I know. That's why I said he was playing it safe. But months ago he was the total opposite.

[Sub-stance1]

Yeah I also noticed that he did agree on a lot of stuff...which I could appreciate his candor for, I guess, but the amount of agreement probably did not work in his favor.

Not at all because he basically just flip flopped again. but at this point I don't think it matters much. It probably won't move the dial for either one.

[F34R]

Doesnt matter.. whichever gets elected, we'll still be screwed.

[Silver_Knight]

Doesnt matter.. whichever gets elected, we'll still be screwed.

We'd get along good in real life. That's what i say all the time.

[Sub-stance1]

Doesnt matter.. whichever gets elected, we'll still be screwed.

I doubt that. We will be fine under either one.

[-Kwesnoth-]

I doubt that. We will be fine under either one.

I don't know about fine, we are screwed right now. We will limp along with either thats for sure.

[F34R]

I doubt that. We will be fine under either one.

More debt, more taxes, .... .ah shit, the list could go on and on. I'm not sure what you consider "fine".

[Sub-stance1]

More debt, more taxes, .... .ah shit, the list could go on and on. I'm not sure what you consider "fine".

We aren't doomed. We will be ok. We've overcome worse in the past.

[-Kwesnoth-]

We aren't doomed. We will be ok. We've overcome worse in the past.

Such as when in history were we so many trillions in debt?

[Silver_Knight]

I don't know about fine, we are screwed right now. We will limp along with either thats for sure.

We'll pull a Sony and "limp" for a while but I just hope we'll eventually do better.

[Sub-stance1]

Such as when in history were we so many trillions in debt?

Probably never but its being tackled slowly but surely. It didn't get that way overnight so it will take some time to get it down.

[Bio]

I doubt that. We will be fine under either one.

Wow somebody is quite the optimist.

[Silver_Knight]

Wow somebody is quite the optimist.

I'm glad he is though because it makes me believe a little.

When You Are In The Light, Everything Follows You,

But When You Enter Into The Dark ,Even Your Own Shadow Doesnt Follow You.

[-Kwesnoth-]

Probably never but its being tackled slowly but surely. It didn't get that way overnight so it will take some time to get it down.

Exactly how slowly can something be tackled before being constituted as getting worse? I'm all for optimism in dark times, but its time to realize that things are not getting better.

[Sub-stance1]

Wow somebody is quite the optimist.

I remember a certain Churchill quote from one of my Ranger instructors on my first day of RIP. It goes:

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees an opportunity in every difficulty".

It stuck with me.

[weskurtz81]

Funny about this whole Detroit bailout issue, I don't recall Romney saying he wouldn't allow access to Federal funds, I only see him saying they should be forced into Bankruptcy (which, incidentally that's exactly what happened after numerous bailouts) rather than just be given "blank checks" directly from the tax payers. Can any of you calling him a liar provide evidence that he said he would not allow the Feds to provide funding AFTER the automakers entered bankruptcy protection? It looks to me like Romney's point is right on, if it were up to him they would have gone DIRECTLY into bankruptcy rather than bounce off the bottom with bailout after bailout.

I do remember the Democrats though saying that they can't be allowed to go Bankrupt as no one would buy their cars.... funny thing was history was actually against them on that comment. It actually looked like Dems #1 supporters, Unions, didn't want their contracts torn up and they new they would be a big target in a bankruptcy court. So, how well did that prediction work out? No one is buying cars from GM are they.... oh wait, they are still selling plenty of cars... AMAZING!!!!

[Silver_Knight]

I remember a certain Churchill quote from one of my Ranger instructors on my first day of RIP. It goes:

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees an opportunity in every difficulty".

It stuck with me.

This was the quote i forgot about. plus rep for excellent usage and refreshing my memory.

[Bio]

Great quote and I agree. I was, you know, just sayin'. I, too, hope there will be a timely recovery no matter who is in office.

[BoyBettaKnow]

I remember a certain Churchill quote from one of my Ranger instructors on my first day of RIP. It goes:

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees an opportunity in every difficulty".

It stuck with me.

That's quite and inspiring quote


BBK. Tapatalking

[F34R]

Funny about this whole Detroit bailout issue, I don't recall Romney saying he wouldn't allow access to Federal funds, I only see him saying they should be forced into Bankruptcy (which, incidentally that's exactly what happened after numerous bailouts) rather than just be given "blank checks" directly from the tax payers. Can any of you calling him a liar provide evidence that he said he would not allow the Feds to provide funding AFTER the automakers entered bankruptcy protection? It looks to me like Romney's point is right on, if it were up to him they would have gone DIRECTLY into bankruptcy rather than bounce off the bottom with bailout after bailout.

I do remember the Democrats though saying that they can't be allowed to go Bankrupt as no one would buy their cars.... funny thing was history was actually against them on that comment. It actually looked like Dems #1 supporters, Unions, didn't want their contracts torn up and they new they would be a big target in a bankruptcy court. So, how well did that prediction work out? No one is buying cars from GM are they.... oh wait, they are still selling plenty of cars... AMAZING!!!!

Bailing out the auto's was to get votes. Period. Otherwise, it would have went differently to help the country.

[Vulgotha]

Such as when in history were we so many trillions in debt?

The actual dollar amount is kind of irrelevant what really matters historically is how much proportionate debt to GDP we were at. It was far worse then it is now during WW2 for us, as an example.

[-Kwesnoth-]

The actual dollar amount is kind of irrelevant what really matters historically is how much proportionate debt to GDP we were at. It was far worse then it is now during WW2 for us, as an example.

Times were different back then, then they are now. People were more willing to make sacrifices for the good of the country, now people just want the hand outs and free stuff.

[Sub-stance1]

Times were different back then, then they are now. People were more willing to make sacrifices for the good of the country, now people just want the hand outs and free stuff.

Some people are still willing to make sacrifices. The majority of people don't want hand outs and shouldn't be put in that category. The middle class is still the backbone of this country.