General Politics Thread

**claud3** · 11-03-2012

well not the two front runners

**weskurtz81** · 11-03-2012

Originally Posted by claud3

well not the two front runners

That's my point, not that I hate Romney OR Obama for that matter. I do feel that one is better for the job than the other but also feel neither is the BEST person for the job.

I honestly don't know how ANYONE can HONESTLY believe either of the two front runners are the best people for the job.

**claud3** · 11-03-2012

because the bullshit they given all the time 24/7

the military complex and the complex of everything... It's common lies on top of common lies

this is the way it's always been in the u.s.a and around the world. I do not even vote here in northern ireland, because i know how it works here

**DayWalker** · 11-03-2012

Originally Posted by weskurtz81

Yeah, I know you "love" Obama, but that's not what I asked. I asked if you thought it was likely that there's someone better for the job.

not that i am currently aware of.

**claud3** · 11-03-2012

Does it matter. The USA is fucked

**Sub-stance1** · 11-03-2012

Originally Posted by claud3

Does it matter. The USA is fucked

I guess you think if you keep saying that it will come true. It's not gonna happen bro. Hate to disappoint ya.

**weskurtz81** · 11-03-2012

Originally Posted by DayWalker

not that i am currently aware of.

Gary Johnson? He's probably better than both IMO...

**F34R** · 11-03-2012

Originally Posted by claud3

Does it matter. The USA is fucked

Nuh uh...
More debt, more unemployment, more costs in healthcare, just for starters... means we're going to be "A" ok.

**claud3** · 11-03-2012

Originally Posted by F34R

Nuh uh...
More debt, more unemployment, more costs in healthcare, just for starters... means we're going to be "A" ok.

Well I understand now, I am false and the USA is a ok and I am sorry for getting it wrong

Lmao

**weskurtz81** · 11-03-2012

Geez... never seen anyone with such this much of an obsession before... it's really quite amusing.

**Bigdoggy** · 11-03-2012

also, the main thing I hate about Mitt dumbass Romney is he says how China is responsible for our recession but completely fails to acknowledge the fact that USA made products have a markup anywhere from 100% up to even 500%. yet it's chinas fault that companies go to them instead of staying in the USA where our own states have such a property tax hike while business inflate their prices so much and wonder why no one is buying "made in the USA" products.

neither president Obama or Romney acknowledged this problem. what we got was them pointing the blame finger at china. lolz

**claud3** · 11-03-2012

True, they hate China and yet help them and import their stuff

**hoverbike** · 11-03-2012

Originally Posted by Sub-stance1

I guess you think if you keep saying that it will come true. It's not gonna happen bro. Hate to disappoint ya.

I don't think we or Americans would be disappointed to find out the sky isn't falling. However, we have given reasons why it is but we are open to reasons that it may be not that the USA is screwed. Proceed.

Something I have noticed is in every single US presidential debate (even the preliminaries) there is no mention or discussion on Food and Farming AT ALL!! Its such a huge part of living and nothing! Its only the stuff that keeps us all living, thats all. There is sometimes mention of it in Canadian debates but never in US ones.

**MATRIX 2** · 11-04-2012

Originally Posted by hoverbike

I don't think we or Americans would be disappointed to find out the sky isn't falling. However, we have given reasons why it is but we are open to reasons that it may be not that the USA is screwed. Proceed.

Something I have noticed is in every single US presidential debate (even the preliminaries) there is no mention or discussion on Food and Farming AT ALL!! Its such a huge part of living and nothing! Its only the stuff that keeps us all living, thats all. There is sometimes mention of it in Canadian debates but never in US ones.

What food. All the corn that isn't being turned to HFCS is being wasted to produce ethanol.

**claud3** · 11-04-2012

Plane lies and we all know

**Bigdoggy** · 11-04-2012

Originally Posted by claud3

True, they hate China and yet help them and import their stuff

well, Romney was saying they are money manipulators which I don't agree with. I do think the USA are the money manipulators but Romney is to dumb to understand that. USA has been manipulating it's own currency for quite sometime. I will say that if we didn't trade with china right now, USA would be in a much bigger recession because no one would be able to afford anything USA made.

**claud3** · 11-04-2012

True, but still an enemy

Go figure

**Sub-stance1** · 11-04-2012

Originally Posted by Bigdoggy

well, Romney was saying they are money manipulators which I don't agree with. I do think the USA are the money manipulators but Romney is to dumb to understand that. USA has been manipulating it's own currency for quite sometime. I will say that if we didn't trade with china right now, USA would be in a much bigger recession because no one would be able to afford anything USA made.

Wait, so trading with china is helping against the recession and helping our economy but bailing out our auto industry is making the recession/economy worse.

**claud3** · 11-04-2012

since China owns $3 trillion if your debt and an enemy.. so why would it help the USA, oh right

Because the u.s is begging and on their knees for help

The auto bailout should have never happened and they should have failed

**F34R** · 11-04-2012

The US should file Chapter 11.

**Sub-stance1** · 11-04-2012

Originally Posted by claud3

since China owns $3 trillion if your debt and an enemy.. so why would it help the USA, oh right

Because the u.s is begging and on their knees for help

The auto bailout should have never happened and they should have failed

but it did happen and didn't fail. Oh Yea! I see you just love the good ole USA. You can't stop talking about it.

**DayWalker** · 11-04-2012

2013 is a big year. Expect the "grand deal" that Obama and Boehnor (sp?) looked out (shot down my tea party babies) to get another big look.

If i remember it was something like a 4 trillion dollar deficit reduction over 10 years. 10$ in spending cuts for 1$ in new tax revenue.

again with the auto bailout

in the end, it saved 5-7 million jobs in the middle of a great recession. saved and industry. and the majority of the money has been repaid.

the money that we lost (or has yet to be repaid) is a drop in the bucket compared to the lost tax revenue resulting from the collapse of the industry.

**Sub-stance1** · 11-04-2012

Originally Posted by DayWalker

again with the auto bailout

in the end, it saved 5-7 million jobs in the middle of a great recession. saved and industry. and the majority of the money has been repaid.

the money that we lost (or has yet to be repaid) is a drop in the bucket compared to the lost tax revenue resulting from the collapse of the industry.

Don't forget all these economist we have in this thread say the exact opposite. The auto bailout caused the recession to last longer. But on top of that, the obama administration is putting out bogus job numbers and all the polls are rigged.

**claud3** · 11-04-2012

Money well unrecoverable and a system that lies to the people. Great

Next I going to be told, that the banks stealing people's money from all angles is legal

**F34R** · 11-04-2012

Originally Posted by DayWalker

2013 is a big year. Expect the "grand deal" that Obama and Boehnor (sp?) looked out (shot down my tea party babies) to get another big look.

If i remember it was something like a 4 trillion dollar deficit reduction over 10 years. 10$ in spending cuts for 1$ in new tax revenue.

Yeah, it'll be one of those things like he said in 2008.. ya know.. cut the deficit.