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    because the bull$#@! they given all the time 24/7

    the military complex and the complex of everything... It's common lies on top of common lies

    this is the way it's always been in the u.s.a and around the world. I do not even vote here in northern ireland, because i know how it works here
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    Quote Originally Posted by weskurtz81 View Post
    Yeah, I know you "love" Obama, but that's not what I asked. I asked if you thought it was likely that there's someone better for the job.
    not that i am currently aware of.

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    Does it matter. The USA is $#@!ed
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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    Does it matter. The USA is $#@!ed
    I guess you think if you keep saying that it will come true. It's not gonna happen bro. Hate to disappoint ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DayWalker View Post
    not that i am currently aware of.
    Gary Johnson? He's probably better than both IMO...
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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    Does it matter. The USA is $#@!ed
    Nuh uh...
    More debt, more unemployment, more costs in healthcare, just for starters... means we're going to be "A" ok.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Nuh uh...
    More debt, more unemployment, more costs in healthcare, just for starters... means we're going to be "A" ok.
    Well I understand now, I am false and the USA is a ok and I am sorry for getting it wrong

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    Geez... never seen anyone with such this much of an obsession before... it's really quite amusing.
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    also, the main thing I hate about Mitt dumbass Romney is he says how China is responsible for our recession but completely fails to acknowledge the fact that USA made products have a markup anywhere from 100% up to even 500%. yet it's chinas fault that companies go to them instead of staying in the USA where our own states have such a property tax hike while business inflate their prices so much and wonder why no one is buying "made in the USA" products.

    neither president Obama or Romney acknowledged this problem. what we got was them pointing the blame finger at china. lolz
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    True, they hate China and yet help them and import their stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    I guess you think if you keep saying that it will come true. It's not gonna happen bro. Hate to disappoint ya.
    I don't think we or Americans would be disappointed to find out the sky isn't falling. However, we have given reasons why it is but we are open to reasons that it may be not that the USA is screwed. Proceed.

    Something I have noticed is in every single US presidential debate (even the preliminaries) there is no mention or discussion on Food and Farming AT ALL!! Its such a huge part of living and nothing! Its only the stuff that keeps us all living, thats all. There is sometimes mention of it in Canadian debates but never in US ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoverbike View Post
    I don't think we or Americans would be disappointed to find out the sky isn't falling. However, we have given reasons why it is but we are open to reasons that it may be not that the USA is screwed. Proceed.

    Something I have noticed is in every single US presidential debate (even the preliminaries) there is no mention or discussion on Food and Farming AT ALL!! Its such a huge part of living and nothing! Its only the stuff that keeps us all living, thats all. There is sometimes mention of it in Canadian debates but never in US ones.
    What food. All the corn that isn't being turned to HFCS is being wasted to produce ethanol.

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    Plane lies and we all know
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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    True, they hate China and yet help them and import their stuff
    well, Romney was saying they are money manipulators which I don't agree with. I do think the USA are the money manipulators but Romney is to dumb to understand that. USA has been manipulating it's own currency for quite sometime. I will say that if we didn't trade with china right now, USA would be in a much bigger recession because no one would be able to afford anything USA made.

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    True, but still an enemy

    Go figure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdoggy View Post
    well, Romney was saying they are money manipulators which I don't agree with. I do think the USA are the money manipulators but Romney is to dumb to understand that. USA has been manipulating it's own currency for quite sometime. I will say that if we didn't trade with china right now, USA would be in a much bigger recession because no one would be able to afford anything USA made.
    Wait, so trading with china is helping against the recession and helping our economy but bailing out our auto industry is making the recession/economy worse.

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    since China owns $3 trillion if your debt and an enemy.. so why would it help the USA, oh right

    Because the u.s is begging and on their knees for help

    The auto bailout should have never happened and they should have failed
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    The US should file Chapter 11.




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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    since China owns $3 trillion if your debt and an enemy.. so why would it help the USA, oh right

    Because the u.s is begging and on their knees for help

    The auto bailout should have never happened and they should have failed
    but it did happen and didn't fail. Oh Yea! I see you just love the good ole USA. You can't stop talking about it.

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    2013 is a big year. Expect the "grand deal" that Obama and Boehnor (sp?) looked out (shot down my tea party babies) to get another big look.

    If i remember it was something like a 4 trillion dollar deficit reduction over 10 years. 10$ in spending cuts for 1$ in new tax revenue.

    again with the auto bailout

    in the end, it saved 5-7 million jobs in the middle of a great recession. saved and industry. and the majority of the money has been repaid.

    the money that we lost (or has yet to be repaid) is a drop in the bucket compared to the lost tax revenue resulting from the collapse of the industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayWalker View Post
    again with the auto bailout

    in the end, it saved 5-7 million jobs in the middle of a great recession. saved and industry. and the majority of the money has been repaid.

    the money that we lost (or has yet to be repaid) is a drop in the bucket compared to the lost tax revenue resulting from the collapse of the industry.
    Don't forget all these economist we have in this thread say the exact opposite. The auto bailout caused the recession to last longer. But on top of that, the obama administration is putting out bogus job numbers and all the polls are rigged.

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    Money well unrecoverable and a system that lies to the people. Great

    Next I going to be told, that the banks stealing people's money from all angles is legal
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayWalker View Post
    2013 is a big year. Expect the "grand deal" that Obama and Boehnor (sp?) looked out (shot down my tea party babies) to get another big look.

    If i remember it was something like a 4 trillion dollar deficit reduction over 10 years. 10$ in spending cuts for 1$ in new tax revenue.
    Yeah, it'll be one of those things like he said in 2008.. ya know.. cut the deficit.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Yeah, it'll be one of those things like he said in 2008.. ya know.. cut the deficit.
    well in case you missed it... stuff happened.

    it will happen. some bargain that deals with the tax code and SS/MC...
    (assuming some national crisis doesn't break out)

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    Does no one get it, you were truly $#@!ed by the ones you elected and you still elect them.

    Now that 5 million and that is going to get bigger, five million that can not vote and a voting system that relying on machines to do the voting. Which can be hacked so easily, voting does not exist. But only in the imagination

    And you can not vote, because it's all run by the political circles and media bull$#@!
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