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    Quote Originally Posted by DayWalker View Post
    4 more years of petulant whining from a bunch of bible thumpers who haven't ever taken a civics or economics class.

    4 more years or pretending you put forth a better alternative.
    The bolded doesn't make sense, because alot of economists don't care for Obama. In particular the Austrian school of thought.

    I've taken 'classes' in these topics as well, and I don't agree with the man either. Or Romney, for that matter.

    And there -is- a better option then either of these clowns: Gary Johnson.


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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    What is the "grand deal" and GOP? Why am I being dragged into this? Because I don't like re-electing people that haven't done what the campaigned about? Is it automatic that someone likes the other candidate if he dislikes the other? wtf
    I guess in their mind if the shoe fits. Man they can not understand why they elect or re-elected someone that does an terrorism type job in office for four years
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayWalker View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/ma...pagewanted=all

    that grand deal.

    you are obviously concerned about debt... shouldn't you be aware of all this?
    No, usually I'm not aware of things that are randomly named by others. I've definitely read about the negotiations about reducing the debt, but never saw "grand deal" being used as a name for it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    What is the "grand deal" and GOP? Why am I being dragged into this? Because I don't like re-electing people that haven't done what the campaigned about? Is it automatic that someone likes the other candidate if he dislikes the other? wtf
    Just remember, if you don't vote for Obama, you're a racist con. Also remember that if you don't vote for Romney, you're a lazy, whining, free-loading, good-for-nothing-47%er liberal.

    As for me? I'll just have to be content with being a wacko, anarchist, isolationist Paulbot. It's a tough role to endure but someone has to. It's for the good of the children after all.
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    It's neat, but kinda arbitrary. I mean, you can put any two names in that, and it all makes the same sense.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    It's neat, but kinda arbitrary. I mean, you can put any two names in that, and it all makes the same sense.


    well yeah... its purely based on electoral math... not the candidates themselves.

    But I think it will be neat to watch how the race unfolds with this tool

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    So much for that grand bargain:





    Pretty sad Obama would say this:


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    I'm not sure you know what you posted...

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    And these are the best you can produce

    Oh right, they are the ones that kicked out actually people that care for the u.s.a

    Or is that a lie
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayWalker View Post
    I'm not sure you know what you posted...
    What, that obama is a false prophet.

    I know what Romney is, do you know what Obama is?

    I'll say it, either way whatever happens on Tuesday, we all lose.

    The difference is I'm not going to be deluded by Obama's attempts to hide how ineffective he is.

    Even if he wins, Congress is likely to be in greater control by Republicans which pretty much means Obama is going to have to play nicely, if the want to try and accomplish anything.

    As opposed to Romney who actually will be able to accomplish things since he didn't piss off the other side as much (which unlike the Republicans, hasn't had control of congress since 2010)

    But go ahead and support the 4 more years line, I guess that is what it will take for you to see what a joke Obama is. At either pleasing his side or getting things done in general.

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    ...

    I still don't think you know what you posted (the first video)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DayWalker View Post
    ...

    I still don't think you know what you posted (the first video)...
    Yes, that Obama will not stand up and will cave to his financial backers demands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX 2 View Post
    Yes, that Obama will not stand up and will cave to his financial backers demands.
    ...you have no idea what romneys tax plan is do you?

    (hint: it would be the exact same thing that blogger is talking about)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MATRIX 2 View Post
    What, that obama is a false prophet.

    I know what Romney is, do you know what Obama is?

    I'll say it, either way whatever happens on Tuesday, we all lose.

    The difference is I'm not going to be deluded by Obama's attempts to hide how ineffective he is.

    Even if he wins, Congress is likely to be in greater control by Republicans which pretty much means Obama is going to have to play nicely, if the want to try and accomplish anything.

    As opposed to Romney who actually will be able to accomplish things since he didn't piss off the other side as much (which unlike the Republicans, hasn't had control of congress since 2010)

    But go ahead and support the 4 more years line, I guess that is what it will take for you to see what a joke Obama is. At either pleasing his side or getting things done in general.
    What's worse is that it doesn't really matter what Obama does, doesn't do, etc. He doesn't have another election to win if he wins tomorrow. He doesn't have to play nicely, and doesn't really have to want to accomplish anything. That isn't exclusive to Obama. That's every second term President for the USA.




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    if you really want to fix the federal government:

    term limits for congressmen
    repeal citizens united
    and I would even make a presidency last 1 term- 6 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by DayWalker View Post
    if you really want to fix the federal government:

    term limits for congressmen
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    and I would even make a presidency last 1 term- 6 years
    Term limits for congressman is something that pretty much everybody seems to agree on- yet it never happens. It's one of those things where no session of congress would ever pass (since it hurts them) unless there were pitchforks and torches outside the capitol building.

    I'd also be interested in seeing a sort of one term presidency. That'd be interesting..

    Could we also agree on putting a campaign contribution and spending cap?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    Term limits for congressman is something that pretty much everybody seems to agree on- yet it never happens. It's one of those things where no session of congress would ever pass (since it hurts them) unless there were pitchforks and torches outside the capitol building.

    I'd also be interested in seeing a sort of one term presidency. That'd be interesting..

    Could we also agree on putting a campaign contribution and spending cap?
    YES!

    everyone should be offended by the amount of money thrown around.

    And if you are anything other than a 1%... you should be very uneasy about whether or not YOU and your interests are being represented when Corportations and wealthy individuals are throwing mountains of money into the pot.

    You really think anyone throws that kind of cash around and doesn't expect something in return?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DayWalker View Post
    YES!

    everyone should be offended by the amount of money thrown around.

    And if you are anything other than a 1%... you should be very uneasy about whether or not YOU and your interests are being represented when Corportations and wealthy individuals are throwing mountains of money into the pot.

    You really think anyone throws that kind of cash around and doesn't expect something in return?
    You and I are on a roll now, Daywalker.

    Can we also agree, then, that all campaign contributions should be unilaterally transparent so we can see the amount and who sent what?

    Further, can we degrade treatment as corporations as 'people' altogether?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    You and I are on a roll now, Daywalker.

    Can we also agree, then, that all campaign contributions should be unilaterally transparent so we can see the amount and who sent what?

    Further, can we degrade treatment as corporations as 'people' altogether?
    Vulgotha and I win the thread.

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    This hasn't happened in forever.


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    Never going to happen some as

    Because that means, revealing a taboo and teaching us how to cheat and buy elections
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayWalker View Post
    if you really want to fix the federal government:

    term limits for congressmen
    repeal citizens united
    and I would even make a presidency last 1 term- 6 years
    If you want to fix the problem with politics in the USA you need better people to run for office so that you have better politicians. And non of this can occur with uninformed voters. So in the end you need a better class of voter.

    #1 won't happen since there are too many career politicians already in the system.
    #2 Is unlikely to happen because the public won't put the pressure on the politicians due to ignorance.
    #3 Is rather stupid and undermines not only our entire executive history but possible attempts to place term limits on congressmembers. 2 4 years terms is fine, if people were actually informed, and 3rd parties were more of a factor.

    And yes I know what Romney's tax plan entails. I also know he can be controlled by the will of congress which is partially affected by their constituents. Nobody knows exactly what Obama will try to accomplish with 4 more years, other than being a lame duck president. Oh and the march towards 20trillion in debt isn't appealing either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    Term limits for congressman is something that pretty much everybody seems to agree on- yet it never happens. It's one of those things where no session of congress would ever pass (since it hurts them) unless there were pitchforks and torches outside the capitol building.

    I'd also be interested in seeing a sort of one term presidency. That'd be interesting..

    Could we also agree on putting a campaign contribution and spending cap?
    You cam blame the supreme court for that one. The president seemed to be against it.





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