General Politics Thread

**Sub-stance1** · 02-09-2013

Originally Posted by Vulgotha

Got it all wrong man. Hussein clearly had chemical weapons and he was massacring the Kurds. What most people don't realize, though,is that the majority of these weapons were given to him by us\UK\Israel when we wanted him to exterminate Iran decades ago.

The real threat out there? The one who financially and physically supported the extreme Wahabi Bin Laden and other salafists? Saudi Arabia.

A Wahabi monarchy that is replete with oil and is the premiere power in the middle east. Who benefits from Iran and Iraq being toppled? Israel and Saudi Arabia. Who dropped off Bin Laden to be safeguarded by the Pakistani's? Saudi Arabia.

1 + 1 = 2

Yea, but that was back in the 80s I think. We didn't invade Iraq because of WMD's. Of course that is one of the lies they used to justify it. None were found and there was no link to them and 9-11. There was no need to invade. Just my opinion of course. But the part about WMDs is a fact.

It is difficult to hold any one nation responsible for this kind of terrorist activity, but a large chunk of the blame is with the Saudi's. Obviously, much of it is our own fault because what we have done in the past routinely bites us in the ass. Like our covert operations in Afghanistan against the Soviets. Being buddy buddy with Hussein in order for him to take care of Iran for us. and so on.

Correct but that still justify invading a country based on lies.

**Vulgotha** · 02-09-2013

I don't agree with the assertion that we should have invaded Iraq. We should have stayed out of it, if for no other reason he was a stabilizing force in the region.

**DayWalker** · 02-12-2013

Anyone else watching NETFLIX's House of Cards...

pretty good series... centered around politics so I thought I'd recommend it

**Yuuichi** · 02-13-2013

So why are flags not flown at half mast for Chris Kyle?

**Sub-stance1** · 02-13-2013

Originally Posted by Yuuichi

So your president orders all flags at half mast for a drugie who died due to overdoes yet Chris Kyle was shot in cold blood and he doesn't even say anything. That's the guy you elected. Go ahead I love to see you guys pull something out your ass to defend why he did this.

Who was the druggie?

**Yuuichi** · 02-13-2013

Originally Posted by Sub-stance1

Who was the druggie?

Whitney Houston

**Sub-stance1** · 02-13-2013

Originally Posted by Yuuichi

Whitney Houston

lol..so the president ordered all flags flow in our country for her death....lol Where are you getting this from?... I don't think that is true.

**Yuuichi** · 02-13-2013

Originally Posted by Sub-stance1

lol..so the president ordered all flags flow in our country for her death....lol Where are you getting this from?... I don't think that is true.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72960.html

Christie had been criticized for ordering flags at state government buildings to be lowered on Saturday, the day that Houston’s funeral services would be held in Newark.

Ok so scratch that was not Obama, information getting mixed up.

**Sub-stance1** · 02-13-2013

Originally Posted by Yuuichi

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72960.html

Ok so scratch that was not Obama, information getting mixed up.

lol..I know some of you dislike the president dude, but damn. You clearly posted without reading that first. Don't jump the gun so quickly. He may of contacted the family personally you know. The guy was a Seal and i'm sure his family wants to remain out of the spotlight for very good reasons.

**Yuuichi** · 02-13-2013

Originally Posted by Sub-stance1

lol..I know some of you dislike the president dude, but damn. You clearly posted without reading that first. Don't jump the gun so quickly. He may of contacted the family personally you know. The guy was a Seal and i'm sure his family wants to remain out of the spotlight for very good reasons.

Yeah that was my bad. A close friend posted it who is usally up on these things, like showing mee the "evil" that was Obamas purposal for gun change(which is bad but not a work of the devil like everyone thinks) so I fig he would be up on this too.

**MATRIX 2** · 02-13-2013

**Sub-stance1** · 02-13-2013

Originally Posted by Yuuichi

Yeah that was my bad. A close friend posted it who is usally up on these things, like showing mee the "evil" that was Obamas purposal for gun change(which is bad but not a work of the devil like everyone thinks) so I fig he would be up on this too.

Posted it where? That article is almost a year old.

**Yuuichi** · 02-13-2013

Originally Posted by Sub-stance1

Posted it where? That article is almost a year old.

Not that article there is a picture floating around the net Chris-Kyle-v-Whitney-Houston-300x217.jpg

**Sub-stance1** · 02-13-2013

Originally Posted by Yuuichi

Not that article there is a picture floating around the net Chris-Kyle-v-Whitney-Houston-300x217.jpg

ah, i see. I'm not surprised though.

**DayWalker** · 02-13-2013

smh at people who can't identify internet spam

apologies fellas... the easiest way to get ahold of a mod... bare with me

I'm getting a message that I've been banned from the NFL Thread???

I rarely post there anymore... and I haven't been trolling... could you investigate the cause please?

(when trying to enter the thread I get a message: you have been banned from this thread)

thanks
PM me with response and delete this message

**-Kwesnoth-** · 02-13-2013

Originally Posted by DayWalker

apologies fellas... the easiest way to get ahold of a mod... bare with me

I'm getting a message that I've been banned from the NFL Thread???

I rarely post there anymore... and I haven't been trolling... could you investigate the cause please?

(when trying to enter the thread I get a message: you have been banned from this thread)

thanks
PM me with response and delete this message

**DayWalker** · 02-13-2013

apparently you can ban people now...

good to know

**-Kwesnoth-** · 02-13-2013

Originally Posted by DayWalker

apparently you can ban people now...

good to know

LOL

You should have known that you would be my first target.

**DayWalker** · 02-13-2013

No way. You totally Pearl harbored me....

**-Kwesnoth-** · 02-13-2013

Mission Complete.

Returning to base.

**Silver_Knight** · 02-13-2013

You did what I did, Kwes.

Plus rep for excellent troll-ing.

**DayWalker** · 02-13-2013

Originally Posted by -Kwesnoth-

Mission Complete.

Returning to base.

all you've done is awaken a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve

**-Kwesnoth-** · 02-13-2013

Originally Posted by DayWalker

all you've done is awaken a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve

....

**DayWalker** · 02-13-2013

on topic...

Rubio tried so hard to make it through that speech without caving and going for the water

I thought he would make it

**weskurtz81** · 02-13-2013

In 2008 the economy collapsed and took over 3 million manufacturing jobs with it. One of the hard hit industries was auto manufacturing. Now that the economy isn't going the wrong direction, car sales have been ticking up and as such the auto industry has added jobs BACK to the workforce.

On top of that, China is becoming less and less competitive and companies are finding that it's making more sense to move manufacturing back to the US for goods that are being sold in North America.

You can say that Obama's economic policies are the reason the economy is recovering, his being mostly the same as the president before him so I guess that guy shares the credit. But, his economic policies have nothing to do with what's going on in China which has caused manufacturing jobs to leave that country and head back to the US.

So, which of Obama's policies are driving the increase in US manufacturing and why?

http://www.businessweek.com/articles...just-beginning
https://www.bcgperspectives.com/cont...america_again/

Edit: Again, if we are going to credit someone for this, be it Obama or ANYONE, let's be honest with ourselves and identify the exact policies that have been the driving factor of the increase in manufacturing jobs in the US. Of course, a slight return/recovery of the economy has been part of what's driving this, but a driver that's potentially having more impact than the economy is what's going on in China. So, how do US politicians get credit for what's happening in China?