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Last edited by Sub-stance1; 04-20-2013 at 04:15.
I think we need to have a better system of support. Most people with issues have no one to turn to. The society is built upon independence to the point where people do not care about others' lives, in fact, it's seen as a good thing that you should let others have privacy.
I'm a victim of such things as well. I live a very independent life and I almost have no contact with my family/sibblings except my own. It's very difficult to keep that in a country that is the size of a continent. Very easy to lose relationships as you move away.
I feel like there are definitely advantages to living closer and being more involved in other peoples' lives...close relatives I mean and neighbours. So if a person has no one to turn to, I feel that they are only going to get worse.
A much bigger issue that what I'm saying here but just touching the surface. I think we need to move towards a more collective system of society that the rest of the world shows but not here. Independence to a point is good from others but I think at some point, you need others.
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You're completely correct. If we truly want to lessen not only gun violence, but crime in total, we need to examine what causes these crimes in the first place. Primarily speaking, low income, poor mental health, and gang culture are roots of crime. In the case of terrorism or political-agenda violence, typically these results are due to the people involved feeling their opinions and beliefs are ignored or don't carry equal weight. Even if guns were removed from the citizenry, crimes will still happen. You haven't removed the cause for this persons actions or aggression. People need to realize that crime is a social, health, and economic issue. It's not this intangible, abstract thing that floats around and occasionally strikes.
We need to better society as a whole. Not wait until mistakes are made then shell out punishments where we deem fit.
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The smear campaign going on concerning firearms in the US is just appalling. The people screaming the loudest against privately owned firearms know the least about it, and have likely (almost assuredly) never owned any.
A reprehensible display of inability to properly analyze a situation, along with a grand amount of blame displacement. Our society's inability to take responsibility for itself is remarkable- not that this is in anyway limited to the US though.
Western nations in general tend to have a negative view of firearms.
Our duty as parents is not just to raise our kids, feed them, let them be, whatever else, it's also to educate them so they know how to live their life better than we did.
I can't blame parents for not being involved with their kids. I really can't, having a child of my own, while I spend a lot of time with him, it's very easy to ignore and do our own thing...as it's already very stressful to take care of them and bring home the dough.
Another big problem is that parents don't know how to engage their kids...so far I haven't run into that issue and I'm usually good with kids so I'm hopeful that my child will not grow up and go through the issues people describe about how they are in their teens.
That's very difficult to overcome but I've seen parents that have overcome...sadly that means you have to be good as an entertainer lol and you can't expect everyone to do that. Only parents that are involved with their kids, are the ones that are quick on their feet, entertaining, not afraid to live a little, not be judgmental, understanding the psychology of how to train kids and how to let them confide in you. that sorta thing. all things very difficult and i can't blame parents for not being experts on it.
Obama hasn't delivered on all promises but some he has:
Killing Bin laden
Hate crimes prevention Act
Credit card reform
New GI bill
Those are only just a few and there is much more so don't act like he hasn't done anything. You call those minor successes. ...
The hate is strong in you dude. Why you so mad?
I guess you haven't been reading the thread like you said you were. I gave you what you wanted and you still complain and just try to deny it, just like i said would happen. Your response to that list just goes to prove you guys will never give credit for anything simply because you just don't like the man. At least you are consistent though. The next 3 years are gonna be rough on some of you here.
Last edited by Sub-stance1; 04-20-2013 at 06:39.
Okay I think that's enough derailing.
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There isn't much of a defense for gun or drug laws. There are some exceptions, stuff that is just ludicrously bad (crack cocaine, bath salts, heroin) but otherwise- meh. It doesn't do anything but hurt our nation more over all.
however, i saw a chart by someone who is pro-gun and in that chart, i clearly saw that gun laws did reduce crime. if that's true then we can conclude that to some point it does reduce the chances and it makes sense while pro-gun also makes sense. i think there needs to be a good balance.
also i think there are countries out there that have more need for a gun and some that don't have much need i.e. Canada.
Much easier to kill with a gun than a knife...and sure that happens too but do we really think that school shooter would've been capable of going through that many people to kill the kids? It must've taken him minutes as without a gun, it would've taken him at least an hour and a lot more guts to do it.
Look at this article, do you agree or disagree? I want to learn more about it but I've been kind of torn by both sides, it always seems to me that both sides have valid points.
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