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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    How is it wrong? I can't think of a single thing, much less "all kinds"... I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
    Same reason why we don't let them watch porn or let them smoke at 4. A child is not capable of responsible usage IMO........but like i said before, they are your kids.

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    lol that was mean but i laughed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Same reason why we don't let them watch porn or let them smoke at 4. A child is not capable of responsible usage IMO........but like i said before, they are your kids.
    So, basically, you don't have any reasons that actually explains how there's something wrong with what I posted. Gotcha.

    A child isn't capable of responsible usage? They all were able to start at 4 years old. My son, he's been shooting for 12 years now, and my daughters have been doing it off and on for 8 years. My kids know the most important thing possible, SAFETY first. So, I'm going to disagree with ya on this. A child is fully capable of responsible usage when it's taught to them.

    I think you're misjudging the concept here. Unless, of course, you mean that it wouldn't be right to just give a 4 year old a gun, some bullets, and tell 'em to go have a blast.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    So, basically, you don't have any reasons that actually explains how there's something wrong with what I posted. Gotcha.

    A child isn't capable of responsible usage? They all were able to start at 4 years old. My son, he's been shooting for 12 years now, and my daughters have been doing it off and on for 8 years. My kids know the most important thing possible, SAFETY first. So, I'm going to disagree with ya on this. A child is fully capable of responsible usage when it's taught to them.

    I think you're misjudging the concept here. Unless, of course, you mean that it wouldn't be right to just give a 4 year old a gun, some bullets, and tell 'em to go have a blast.
    Doesn't mean its ok or nothing unfortunate will happen. People are taught gun responsibility all the time and there are still accidents. Still, I say 4 years old is too young to be dealing with guns regardless of the reasons. IMO I don't see any reason why they would need to at that age. I still say a child isn't capable of responsible gun usage simply because a child isn't really responsible for anything like that at that age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Doesn't mean its ok or nothing unfortunate will happen. People are taught gun responsibility all the time and there are still accidents. Still, I say 4 years old is too young to be dealing with guns regardless of the reasons. IMO I don't see any reason why they would need to at that age. I still say a child isn't capable of responsible gun usage simply because a child isn't really responsible for anything like that at that age.
    Obviously they can be...

    by your logic, adults shouldn't be using guns either. smh




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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    There's no way. The military is comprised of Us citizens with ideals matching most Americans. If a commander was given the order to attack US citizens, he'd deny it. There's basically no chance that these commands would give through the chain of commands and be followed every step.

    The necessary clarification here is that the citizens should be armed with potential power to fight an already attacking government; it's there so it can be utilized to remove if we simply deem our government inappropriate to lead us. And, if there was a mass uprising, you can be your ass the military would side with the people anyways. Any evil to be successfully done by the government is through legislation and slow social acceptance to restrictions (which is what we really need to look out for in this day an age).
    I am just curious, what makes you certain that the military would side with the citizens? I see your point about the military being comprised of U.S citizens whose ideals match most Americans but crazier things have happened. It's very possible that the people in the military could have the same agenda and work towards it which may or may not match what the citizens want.....I am just saying you never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    I am just curious, what makes you certain that the military would side with the citizens? I see your point about the military being comprised of U.S citizens whose ideals match most Americans but crazier things have happened. It's very possible that the people in the military could have the same agenda and work towards it which may or may not match what the citizens want.....I am just saying you never know.
    It's highly unlikely the military would entirely, to the man, side against the people. Couple that with how heavily armed the US populace is and it is readily apparent that any kind of 'civil war' scenario goes to the American people.

    Afghanistan insurgency sucked pretty hard. Can you even begin to imagine what it would be like here?


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    Criminals would be the winners lol. They have all the same stuff as the military lol.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    It's highly unlikely the military would entirely, to the man, side against the people. Couple that with how heavily armed the US populace is and it is readily apparent that any kind of 'civil war' scenario goes to the American people.

    Afghanistan insurgency sucked pretty hard. Can you even begin to imagine what it would be like here?

    lol...realistically that would never happen because the military and their families are the the american people........but if it ever did the people wouldn't stand a chance against the military's powerful arsenal of weapons. It wouldn't even be close.They would be defeated psychologically before anything else. You can't defend yourself against overwhelming military firepower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    I want to punch you in your ovaries.
    Yeah, go ahead and punch me in my ovaries while more and more people are dying!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Wolf View Post
    Yeah, go ahead and punch me in my ovaries while more and more people are dying!
    You should try to educate yourself before you come barging in and trumpeting an opinion, and I mean that with all due respect to yourself.

    Please, do some research. I know the site is pro-gun (obviously) but just read this over:

    http://www.gunsandammo.com/2013/05/0...control-myths/

    Do your own studying, but this serves as good introductory lesson for laymen.

    @Substance,

    It is far, far from being that simple. All of that ordinance means nothing if it does not have a relatively risk free target to demolish. For the same reason the US military didn't just carpet bomb entire regions into dust in Afghanistan they would refrain from performing similar action, at least at first, in the United States.

    Insurgency thrives off of (real or perceived) injustice and 'evil' actions. Causes anger. To say nothing about the immediate impact it would have on the ability to wage any kind of war effectively when you start turning major cities and population centers into ash and cinder.

    Apart from swelling rebel ranks, this would also serve to further cripple the presumably tumultuous economy.

    This is why it is imperative to perform pinpoint strikes and avoid collateral damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    You should try to educate yourself before you come barging in and trumpeting an opinion, and I mean that with all due respect to yourself.

    Please, do some research. I know the site is pro-gun (obviously) but just read this over:

    http://www.gunsandammo.com/2013/05/0...control-myths/

    Do your own studying, but this serves as good introductory lesson for laymen.

    @Substance,

    It is far, far from being that simple. All of that ordinance means nothing if it does not have a relatively risk free target to demolish. For the same reason the US military didn't just carpet bomb entire regions into dust in Afghanistan they would refrain from performing similar action, at least at first, in the United States.

    Insurgency thrives off of (real or perceived) injustice and 'evil' actions. Causes anger. To say nothing about the immediate impact it would have on the ability to wage any kind of war effectively when you start turning major cities and population centers into ash and cinder.

    Apart from swelling rebel ranks, this would also serve to further cripple the presumably tumultuous economy.

    This is why it is imperative to perform pinpoint strikes and avoid collateral damage.
    We wouldn't need to do any bombing. It would be over long before that. We don't aircraft to deliver devastating effects. The civilian population isn't equipped to deal with such a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    We wouldn't need to do any bombing. It would be over long before that. We don't aircraft to deliver devastating effects. The civilian population isn't equipped to deal with such a thing.
    Disagree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    Disagree.
    lol..of course. Its a no win situation for the civilians even if you have all the assault rifles and grenades you can muster.

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    You know what, I think I do get it. Look at Syria. It seems like the population didn't have many weapons so now they have to rely on other countries and organizations to provide them with it. I think it is important to have guns in any case. Even if you don't stand a chance.

    But still I'm not scare if the govt. takes away my weapons that I don't have. heh

    Primarily because I trust the govt. enough that they aren't going to do something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    lol..of course. Its a no win situation for the civilians even if you have all the assault rifles and grenades you can muster.
    Alright skip.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    lol..of course. Its a no win situation for the civilians even if you have all the assault rifles and grenades you can muster.
    I guess that means you don't have a chance, just like the rest of us civilians. I think we can fight back just fine though.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    You know what, I think I do get it. Look at Syria. It seems like the population didn't have many weapons so now they have to rely on other countries and organizations to provide them with it. I think it is important to have guns in any case. Even if you don't stand a chance.

    But still I'm not scare if the govt. takes away my weapons that I don't have. heh

    Primarily because I trust the govt. enough that they aren't going to do something like that.
    Wait... you trust the government? If that ain't a heel turn, I don't know what is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by $Greatness$ View Post
    Wait... you trust the government? If that ain't a heel turn, I don't know what is.
    I don't know what heel turn means...you're either saying that it's a bad thing or that you're surprised? Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Wolf View Post
    Something needs to be done about these darn guns! Pass the laws that would regulate guns already!
    Wait.... I thought there already were laws on the books that regulated guns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by weskurtz81 View Post
    Wait.... I thought there already were laws on the books that regulated guns?
    We need more!

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    I think Black Wolf is trolling.


    Anyways, what do you guys think of (3D) printed weapons? It's already happening. Implications of the technology on how gun laws and such are handled?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    I think Black Wolf is trolling.


    Anyways, what do you guys think of (3D) printed weapons? It's already happening. Implications of the technology on how gun laws and such are handled?
    I think you're giving her too much credit there. She's pretty straight forward, not the type to use devious tactics.

    3D Printed weaponry will undoubtedly inspire paranoid terror to the soccer moms controlling our national political narrative. I applaud the idea, but I wouldn't 3D print a weapon, not for a long time.

    The technology just isn't there to make anything sturdy or highly usable.

    As it is, an individual can fabricate a weapon if they want too. The laws kick in when it comes to distribution.

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    Lol

    @Blackwolf,

    I made this for Facebook to celebrate my 2nd amendment rights. I use it as a cover photo for my account. Whaddya think?

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    While the idea is cool, there is no way in hell I'd use a 3d printed gun over a real metal gun. lol



    Possibly for that fact that it looks stupid, you just can't beat the look of a 9mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Wolf View Post
    We need more!
    Gimme an idea of what kind of regulation laws that you think would help.




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