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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Who shut down the government? Can't be those that wouldn't pass any bills in the Senate to fund the government... I'd call them democrats.
    Can't bring yourself to say it, huh?...lol Yea, keep blaming everything on only the dems while the GOP and congress is at a all time low approval rating. Remember, you don't follow politics but now the person you voted for is a socialist. I guess he fooled you . You got duped by the socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Can't bring yourself to say it, huh?...lol Yea, keep blaming everything on only the dems while the GOP and congress is at a all time low approval rating. Remember, you don't follow politics but now the person you voted for is a socialist. I guess he fooled you . You got duped by the socialist.
    Low approval rating due to media, not actions. How long ago did I say that I didn't follow politics? I mean, in 10 years, is that going to be brought up again?

    Look, the government shutdown wasn't caused by merely the GOP. They passed a handful of bills to keep the government open while addressing the problem that is extremely obvious right now with Obamacare. Hell, they passed a bill for government funding that didn't have Obamacare in it at all. Where did it go from the House?? It goes to the Senate.

    I've never blamed everything on ONLY the dems btw. Ultimately, it's Congress to blame. However, when you have ONLY the democrat members of Congress pass a law, that brings up something doesn't it. The same if it were only repubs that passed it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Low approval rating due to media, not actions. How long ago did I say that I didn't follow politics? I mean, in 10 years, is that going to be brought up again?
    That's the same thing was said before the last elections. How did that turn out? Anyone who pays attention already knew it was coming. They couldn't get the whole law repealed so they tried to chip away at it piece by piece by closing down the gov and forcing Obama to do what they wanted. It backfired big time.


    Look, the government shutdown wasn't caused by merely the GOP. They passed a handful of bills to keep the government open while addressing the problem that is extremely obvious right now with Obamacare. Hell, they passed a bill for government funding that didn't have Obamacare in it at all. Where did it go from the House?? It goes to the Senate.
    Well I guess you really haven't been paying attention to politics then because they were threatening to do that since the healthcare bill came about. It wasn't all the repubs, but it's was the mainly the house with tea party influence, and we all know who controls that. They are the only ones with the power to do it. You can't blame anyone else. But look at what happened. They had to come to the table because they saw the polls and who the country put the majority of the blame on.

    I've never blamed everything on ONLY the dems btw. Ultimately, it's Congress to blame. However, when you have ONLY the democrat members of Congress pass a law, that brings up something doesn't it. The same if it were only repubs that passed it.
    It doesn't matter. The senate used their power to get the law to the supreme court just like the house used there's to shut down the gov. The only difference is the house repubs have paid the price for it. They tried to use force to get what they wanted. Obama made the mistake of doing that before and they used it against him. He learned the hard way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacP View Post
    In America you only have one choice if you don't have money and that is to die shame really.
    Your comment is negated by the sheer number of government handouts we have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Low approval rating due to media, not actions. How long ago did I say that I didn't follow politics? I mean, in 10 years, is that going to be brought up again?

    Look, the government shutdown wasn't caused by merely the GOP. They passed a handful of bills to keep the government open while addressing the problem that is extremely obvious right now with Obamacare. Hell, they passed a bill for government funding that didn't have Obamacare in it at all. Where did it go from the House?? It goes to the Senate.

    I've never blamed everything on ONLY the dems btw. Ultimately, it's Congress to blame. However, when you have ONLY the democrat members of Congress pass a law, that brings up something doesn't it. The same if it were only repubs that passed it.

    The media!?



    oh man its getting sad in here.
    Maybe "the polls are skewed" eh????

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBM View Post
    Your comment is negated by the sheer number of government handouts we have.
    Yep, and members of congress get those handouts as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DayWalker View Post
    The media!?



    oh man its getting sad in here.
    Maybe "the polls are skewed" eh????
    Um, the way the media reports things... yes. I don't see what's so sad about saying that. I never said the polls are skewed in any sense other than people are answering based on what they know from media coverage.

    Like someone saying Obamacare was a bipartisan approved law. Some news outlets have been saying that since it happened. Other than that, anyone who says that just shows they really don't know what goes on. And these type of people are answering polls lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    Yep, and members of congress get those handouts as well.
    It's pretty sad too...

    If Congress would actually abide by the laws they pass, it'd be a different nation.




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    Jon Stewart had (another) excellent interview the other night with Faux news Krauthammer.

    Its too bad there aren't more conservatives that can express their goals/intentions like Krauthammer does with Stewart.
    Reasonable and sane.

    Unlike the clown show that somehow manages to grab the mic every single day...

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Um, the way the media reports things... yes. I don't see what's so sad about saying that. I never said the polls are skewed in any sense other than people are answering based on what they know from media coverage.

    Like someone saying Obamacare was a bipartisan approved law. Some news outlets have been saying that since it happened. Other than that, anyone who says that just shows they really don't know what goes on. And these type of people are answering polls lol.

    It is bipartisan approved law.

    Quote Originally Posted by DayWalker View Post
    Jon Stewart had (another) excellent interview the other night with Faux news Krauthammer.

    Its too bad there aren't more conservatives that can express their goals/intentions like Krauthammer does with Stewart.
    Reasonable and sane.

    Unlike the clown show that somehow manages to grab the mic every single day...
    Yea, he is one of the decent ones over there. Chris Wallace is ok sometimes too. He is one of the few there who actually has the balls to call out faux at what they do on a regular basis. if one of your own journalist calls you out, you know you got problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demi_God View Post
    I have this odd feeling that in a couple of years there is going to be a HUGE scandal uncovered.
    You mean right after pres. leaves office? Becuase all the dirt will come out on him. It will be glorious and infuriating at the same time. The facts are already out there but no one wants to believe it nor do they care.

    I fully believe he will release the death row inmates / regular inmates or even the boston bomber or the christmas underwear bomber just like pres. Clinton pardoned did on his last days in office (i think he was given money by their families to make it worthwhile. Its called presidential pardon... Clinton also stole some of the white house furniture if you can believe that!!!

    IIRC Bush didnt pardon any career criminals / murderers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    It is bipartisan approved law.



    Yea, he is one of the decent ones over there. Chris Wallace is ok sometimes too. He is one of the few there who actually has the balls to call out faux at what they do on a regular basis. if one of your own journalist calls you out, you know you got problems.

    Do you say that to try and piss me off? lol

    How is it bipartisan approved law? Explain please.




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    The Dems majority was convenient cover for moderate republicans. (ie snowe, grassley, etc)

    It allowed them to vote "no" while knowing that the bill would still pass and they wouldn't expose themselves to political attack from the right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soldierboy View Post
    You mean right after pres. leaves office? Becuase all the dirt will come out on him. It will be glorious and infuriating at the same time. The facts are already out there but no one wants to believe it nor do they care.

    I fully believe he will release the death row inmates / regular inmates or even the boston bomber or the christmas underwear bomber just like pres. Clinton pardoned did on his last days in office (i think he was given money by their families to make it worthwhile. Its called presidential pardon... Clinton also stole some of the white house furniture if you can believe that!!!

    IIRC Bush didnt pardon any career criminals / murderers!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...George_W._Bush

    matter of opinion I spose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Do you say that to try and piss me off? lol

    How is it bipartisan approved law? Explain please.
    It wasn't a law till it passed the supreme court which was bipartisan. The bill is a different story. What you are referring to happens all the time. Oh, and I love how you ignore when I post that stuff about faux showing what they do..lol



    Originally Posted by Soldierboy
    You mean right after pres. leaves office? Becuase all the dirt will come out on him. It will be glorious and infuriating at the same time. The facts are already out there but no one wants to believe it nor do they care.


    You mean how he is a secret muslim and all that...lol I can't wait to see what these facts are. maybe we will find out where he was actually born.

    I fully believe he will release the death row inmates / regular inmates or even the boston bomber or the christmas underwear bomber just like pres. Clinton pardoned did on his last days in office (i think he was given money by their families to make it worthwhile. Its called presidential pardon... Clinton also stole some of the white house furniture if you can believe that!!!
    All that and he got a blow too.....lol he also created millions of jobs and left the country with a surplus at the end of his term. I wonder what happened to all that.



    IIRC Bush didnt pardon any career criminals / murderers!



    lol..looks like you didn't fact check that one. looks like he did. But don't forget he started a war that got over 4000 US soldiers killed and over 100, 000 civilians over basically nothing...... and says he has no regrets. true patriot right there. Obama could turn out to be Bin ladens first cousin and he will still leave office with a higher approval rating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    It wasn't a law till it passed the supreme court which was bipartisan. The bill is a different story. What you are referring to happens all the time. Oh, and I love how you ignore when I post that stuff about faux showing what they do..lol





    You mean how he is a secret muslim and all that...lol I can't wait to see what these facts are. maybe we will find out where he was actually born.


    All that and he got a blow too.....lol he also created millions of jobs and left the country with a surplus at the end of his term. I wonder what happened to all that.






    lol..looks like you didn't fact check that one. looks like he did. But don't forget he started a war that got over 4000 US soldiers killed and over 100, 000 civilians over basically nothing...... and says he has no regrets. true patriot right there. Obama could turn out to be Bin ladens first cousin and he will still leave office with a higher approval rating.
    LOL!! Ok. So we have a congressional supreme court. Gotcha. lmfao.

    Regardless.. the supreme court didn't pass it as a law ffs. They provided that certain elements were constitutional. The supreme court doesn't make laws. Our judicial system from town court up to the United States Supreme Court DOES NOT MAKE LAWS. Sorry.

    We have three branches..
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    Want me to define those for you?




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    so what do you think about the cop getting $38,000 for spraying pepper spray into peaceful protesters at the uni last year
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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    so what do you think about the cop getting $38,000 for spraying pepper spray into peaceful protesters at the uni last year
    Maybe start a thread... it doesn't have anything to do with politics.




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    Price of a Gallon of Gas up 96% under obama

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    F34R, it sure dose

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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    F34R, it sure dose

    Who controls the police and orders it

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    First, you obviously don't even know anything about why he gets $38,000, and I promise you it doesn't have anything to do with politics. Start a thread, and I'll discuss the topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    LOL!! Ok. So we have a congressional supreme court. Gotcha. lmfao.

    Regardless.. the supreme court didn't pass it as a law ffs. They provided that certain elements were constitutional. The supreme court doesn't make laws. Our judicial system from town court up to the United States Supreme Court DOES NOT MAKE LAWS. Sorry.

    We have three branches..
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    Want me to define those for you?
    wait, you are giving lessons on our 3 branches now. This from the person who said he didn't know what GOP stood for...lol

    Fear, everyone knows that the president actually signs bill to become a law. That's something we learn way back in grade school....lol.

    I never said the Supreme Court made it a law. I said it wasn't a law til it passed the Supreme Court, which was about the mandate.
    My thing is that you are still referring to it like its illegal and still a bill. The whole thing with righties was that the mandate wasn't constitutional but they were wrong. They thought just because the chief leaned conservative that had a sure victory.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soldierboy View Post
    Price of a Gallon of Gas up 96% under obama


    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/pric...96-under-obama


    Prices on the first day obama took office.
    Price of Gallon of Gas Up 96% Under Obama
    gas prices? Come on now, dude. Blaming the president for high gas prices now...lol
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    Well, just stop with the "bipartisan" talk. It wasn't, isn't, and won't ever be... The Supreme Court isn't party affiliated. I never said it was illegal, or still a bill.




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