General Politics Thread

[Sub-stance1]

You don't seem to concerned when Obama is the one doing the dividing.

Now why would anyone listen to Obama? After all, he is a secret muslim that intends to destroy this great country of ours. We must take our country back from outsiders like him. He isn't one of us. Barack "Hussein" Obama. I see a problem here. My god, we are doomed.

[DayWalker]

Now why would anyone listen to Obama? After all, he is a secret muslim that intends to destroy this great country of ours. We must take our country back from outsiders like him. He isn't one of us. Barack "Hussein" Obama. I see a problem here. My god, we are doomed.

what IS he up to!?

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anyways: take it for what its worth 6 months out...


http://www.politico.com/politico44/2...ls-120520.html

Analysis: Obama leads in projected electoral vote totals

The AP looks at the state of the presidential race and outlines the battlegrounds — and finds that President Obama leads the likely Republican nominee (at this point probably Mitt Romney) by a significant margin.

According to the AP, the GOP has 188 electorate votes that are either solidly Republican or leaning Republican. Obama has 242 electoral votes in safe Democratic or likely Democratic states, leaving 104 electoral votes in states that are purely tossups. 270 electorate votes are needed to be elected president.

No surprises here, but the AP outlines the battleground states:

Colorado (9) — Long a reliable GOP state, but Colorado's conservative profile is changing. An influx of young professionals and Hispanic voters were keys to Obama's victory in 2008. The economy has hurt him standing. Female voters in vote-rich Denver suburbs are likely to be key.

Florida (29) — Florida is the prime target for both campaigns. Obama won in 2008, but the housing crisis, high unemployment and gas prices are dogging him. Romney won the primary in January and has picked up endorsement of freshman Sen. Marco Rubio. Obama's organization has a big advantage six months out.

Iowa (6) — An important George W. Bush-state pick-up for Obama. Iowa has been a national popular vote bellwether for 20 years. Obama's attention in the state where his caucus victory launched him in 2008 is countered by Romney's two caucus campaigns. Conservatives are leery of Romney's Mormon faith and social issue profile, but he's got pro-business GOP Gov. Terry Branstad on his side.

New Hampshire (3) — Romney's backyard and vacation home. He won the 2012 primary big, but Obama peeled off this Bush state in 2008 and has worked hard to keep it. Vice President Joe Biden visited Friday. But the GOP is back in power in Legislature, and new Sen. Kelly Ayotte is seen as asset for Romney.

New Mexico (5) — New Mexico emerged as a swing state in the past decade. Democrat Al Gore, then Bush, then Obama carried it. An influx of Hispanic and younger voters has Obama team confident. Gov. Susana Martinez, a rising GOP star elected in 2010, gives the Romney team hope.

Nevada (6) — Part of a triad of Southwestern states Obama flipped in 2008. Nevada is also the prime example of the economy's struggles. Unemployment was 12.3 percent in February, a point Romney will press. There's a strong labor and Hispanic vote, a plus for Obama. A higher Mormon population helps Romney.

North Carolina (15) — Obama was the first Democrat to win North Carolina in 32 years and he hopes again to turn out a high percentage of newcomers and minorities. Romney is contesting the state, an outlier for Obama in 2008, aides say. Obama hopes that holding the party's national convention in Charlotte in September proves a boost.

Ohio (1 — The ultimate Midwestern swing state has been a general election bellwether since 1980. Romney won the 2012 primary and has support from establishment figures such as Sen. Rob Portman. Obama has the organizing advantage, although the economy remains a sticking point, especially in the industrial northwest.

Virginia (13) — Long a GOP bastion, Obama carried Virginia in 2008 by turning out young and minority voters. An influx of under-35 crowd, especially from the Washington, D.C., area, has continued. But Republicans roared back in 2010, ending consecutive Democratic administrations in governorship by electing up-and-comer Bob McDonnell.

It's early yet, but the map gives President Obama's team a lot more flexibility in terms of building a winning map. In a video to supporters in December, Jim Messina laid out the strategy that his team was pursuing to get to 270.

[weskurtz81]

Now why would anyone listen to Obama? After all, he is a secret muslim that intends to destroy this great country of ours. We must take our country back from outsiders like him. He isn't one of us. Barack "Hussein" Obama. I see a problem here. My god, we are doomed.

ROFL!!! It's much easier to create a straw man than actually address the actual point. I guess you should stick to what you are best at though!

what IS he up to!?

It's obvious, growing the federal government and debt! That's what he's up to!

[Sub-stance1]

ROFL!!! It's much easier to create a straw man than actually address the actual point. I guess you should stick to what you are best at though!

oh no! We have an outsider inside our white house. The anti-christ is here. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph please help us.

It's obvious, growing the federal government and debt! That's what he's up to!

Oh no! He is getting us into more depth. He is all for destroying our great country. We must do anything to defeat this enemy of our country. Oh no! Crony capitalism. We must make him "a one term president".

[weskurtz81]

oh no! We have an outsider inside our white house. The anti-christ is here. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph please help us.


Oh no! He is getting us into more depth. He is all for destroying our great country. We must do anything to defeat this enemy of our country. Oh no! Crony capitalism. We must make him "a one term president".

LOL, another profound and enlightening post by our forum "ranger"! Keep'em coming buddy, it makes for great entertainment!

[Sub-stance1]

LOL, another profound and enlightening post by our forum "ranger"! Keep'em coming buddy, it makes for great entertainment!

I'm just trying to be tea party like. Eat your heart out Air Force -1....lol or should I say-1.....lol

Cheer up dude...your too serious. Lay off of the faux news kool-aid.

[weskurtz81]

I'm just trying to be tea party like. Eat your heart out Air Force -1....lol or should I say-1.....lol

Cheer up dude...your too serious. Lay off of the faux news kool-aid.

I thought my last post was pretty cheerful and light hearted!

[Sub-stance1]

I thought my last post was pretty cheerful and light hearted!

You know there is a ignore feature here on these forums. Maybe you should think about using it. I know I do.

[weskurtz81]

You know there is a ignore feature here on these forums. Maybe you should think about using it. I know I do.

Yeah, I know the feature exists, but I haven't felt a need to use it on any forum that I can recall... ever. Ignoring people is something I did when I was a kid, I would much rather exchange thoughts with people than to simply ignore those that I disagree with, not much personal growth with the latter.

[Sub-stance1]

Yeah, I know the feature exists, but I haven't felt a need to use it on any forum that I can recall... ever. Ignoring people is something I did when I was a kid, I would much rather exchange thoughts with people than to simply ignore those that I disagree with, not much personal growth with the latter.

lol...LHM.

[weskurtz81]

lol...LHM.

[Morganator]

How's he going to steal votes if he's not on the ballot?

Write in candidates are statistically insignificant...

Except, Ron Paul's support won't be statistically insignificant as you so aptly put. He has far more support than what you or substance is giving credit for and that support WILL hurt the republican party immensely and will hurt the democrats almost as much. Ron Paul's support will open up a lot of eyes and destroy a lot of egos. Count on it.

[Sub-stance1]

Except, Ron Paul's support won't be statistically insignificant as you so aptly put. He has far more support than what you or substance is giving credit for and that support WILL hurt the republican party immensely and will hurt the democrats almost as much. Ron Paul's support will open up a lot of eyes and destroy a lot of egos. Count on it.

I doubt Paul will pull many people away from the democratic side. Not enough to hurt them. If he hurts anyone it will be Romney. Women will make the difference and it seems that they are leaning to vote for Obama for now.

[DayWalker]

still early. remember there was a 2 week period where women LOVED Sarah Palin... then she started speaking... (and hasn't stopped)

[Sub-stance1]

still early. remember there was a 2 week period where women LOVED Sarah Palin... then she started speaking... (and hasn't stopped)

Thats true. Still a long time til November.

[DayWalker]

tax day eve... and the tea party is dead silent (again) this year...

...pretty much just reinforces that the majority of those protestors were just mad/upset that their "side" had been walloped in consecutive election years... not so much spending.

thats not to say that people aren't genuinely (and rightfully) upset about government overspending... or that national debt is not a real issue...

however all that "spectacle" from several years ago was mostly just people throwing a tantrum after their "team" lost the super bowl.

[weskurtz81]

tax day eve... and the tea party is dead silent (again) this year...

...pretty much just reinforces that the majority of those protestors were just mad/upset that their "side" had been walloped in consecutive election years... not so much spending.

thats not to say that people aren't genuinely (and rightfully) upset about government overspending... or that national debt is not a real issue...

however all that "spectacle" from several years ago was mostly just people throwing a tantrum after their "team" lost the super bowl.

Correlation =/= Causation.....

[Morganator]

That officer should have his hand chopped off.

[weskurtz81]

Deleted post. No need to keep trolls alive after they've been banned.

[three3-times]

You dont let up do you pal?!

[weskurtz81]

LOL.... never mind...

[[DT]]

Wes, I believe that post was for someone else, whose posts have been deleted, so it now looks like it was for you

[weskurtz81]

Wes, I believe that post was for someone else, whose posts have been deleted, so it now looks like it was for you

HA! Good call!

Edit: TSA coming to a bus near YOU!!! I know our local Democrat officials only have our best interests at heart, I know they aren't trying to create a nanny state.... but that's exactly what they are doing!

If you are one of the select few that actually enjoys riding the bus, you might have a change of heart after hearing what the TSA is doing in Houston, Texas.

Democratic Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee held a press conference last week to discuss the details of Houston’s newest initiatives. It is being branded as a program called “BusSafe” and the press release describes it as a necessity for enhancing safety in the city’s public transportation system. Just exactly how they are going about accomplishing that has already attracted its fair share of critics, though.

Under the program launched last week, passengers on busses run by the Houston METRO system will be subjected to random questioning and searches from “counter-terrorism experts” hired by the Transportation Security Administration. Yes, the very same TSA that has become notorious for invasive pat-downs at airports across the country are opening up a new front in their war on privacy, and it’s on Houston’s public busses.

Riders of the Houston METRO won’t be waiting in line for security checkpoints like they do before boarding flights, though. According to the press release, authorities will “ride buses, perform random bag checks and conduct K-9 sweeps, as well as place uniformed and plainclothes officers at Transit Centers and rail platforms to detect, prevent and address latent criminal activity or behavior.” Both local police and undercover TSA agents will be carrying out the city-wide searches.

“If you think you’re going to be a bad actor on buses, get ready. You are going to have a short-lived time frame,”Congresswoman Jackson Lee explained.

And if you think you’re safe from this scrutiny by being outside of Houston, think again. The Metropolitan Transit Authority of Harris County say the searches starting in Houston are part of a national pilot program. BusSafe, it says, may be introduced in cities from coast-to-coast.

Last year the TSA hinted that they could be broadening their reach in the near future. When commenting to the Los Angeles Times on TSA’s plans to start doing pat-downs in bus and train stations, air marshal Ray Dineen put it rather simply: "We are not the Airport Security Administration. We take that transportation part seriously.

"At the time, RT reported that the TSA conducted over 9,000 unannounced checkpoints at transportation hubs across the country during 2011. As those searches — literally — board the buses in 2012, the number of people searched appear set to rise.

"I don't want them looking through my bag. I have a lot of stuff in there," METRO rider Dominique Guillory explains in protest to the city’s NBC affiliate, KPRC News. If Congresswoman Jackson Lee and the TSA agents have any say, however, it won’t really matter.

METRO adds that they do not plan on disclosing the routes, dates or identities of undercover officers that have already started searching passengers in Houston.

“We have one of the safest transit systems in the world in Houston,”

METRO Police Chief Victor Rodriguez explains in the BusSafe press release.

“One way we are able to keep it that way is through the use of deterrents such as uniformed and plainclothes officers patrolling our system and aggressively addressing suspicious and criminal activity.”

OH NO!!! Something bad might potentially happen to me when I am away from my house! Please, oh mighty Federal government.... PROTECT ME!! When does it stop? Seriously?! Government just gets larger and larger, spends more and more, wants to tax more so it can grow and spend more, and gets more involved in the every day lives of the public.

[btbam]

How much money do I need to give you to feel safe again?!?

This is bullshit! I stopped flying cus of TSA asshat security points. (and partly becuase I hate planes) but tsa was a big reason why. People need to wake up and realize this is not ok. America took it up the ass like a fool when they treaded on our constitution before. Now they are going to randomly seach busses and trains...before you know it they'll have agents stopping cars at checkpoints. Then maybe people will finally see we are heading toward tyranny (not too far away IMO). But dear leader will protect us...what a bunch of nonsense, it can't even pass a budget.

[weskurtz81]

How much money do I need to give you to feel safe again?!?

This is bullshit! I stopped flying cus of TSA asshat security points. (and partly becuase I hate planes) but tsa was a big reason why. People need to wake up and realize this is not ok. America took it up the ass like a fool when they treaded on our constitution before. Now they are going to randomly seach busses and trains...before you know it they'll have agents stopping cars at checkpoints. Then maybe people will finally see we are heading toward tyranny (not too far away IMO). But dear leader will protect us...what a bunch of nonsense, it can't even pass a budget.

Curious silence on this topic by some.

It's been a pretty interesting 3.5 years so far.

-Fiscal responsibility promised, but not even a single budget has been passed because of how outlandish they have been.
-The administration sicked the EPA on Texas because it's an economic beacon for the US. So, they tried to change the regulation that would have caused serious harm to the Texas economy, the State fought back AND WON in the courts.
-Tried to push the employee free choice act (skewing the balance of power to the unions) through to pay the unions back for all the contributions but no luck.
-Passed health care reform with the ultimate goal of driving private insurers out of the market and create a single payer system. Once that was accomplished, it would end up being a BIG win for unions as they would ultimately be government workers and would end up unionized. But now chances are it's going to be over turned.
-There are more and more of his fundraisers that were appointed to the Energy Department, many of which have connections to all the bankrupt green energy companies that billions of tax payer dollars have been dolled out to.

.... the list goes on...

I know there are a few good things that he's done, but he's far too irresponsible with tax payer money and to concerned with growing the power and scope of the federal government. I'm not sure if Romney would be much better, but he I don't think he could be any worse.