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I think people forget how good Zidane was at carry his team because people are probably looking at only stats. Watch a few season review of Real Madrid or the 2006 World Cup even when he was about to retire to see his influence on a team.
If you only look at stats sure... but if you watch the games it's quite a different story.
Five best are Pele, Maradona, Puskas, Messi, Garrincha.
Team would be a 4-4-2. From right to left:
Goal keeper: Yashin
Defense: Carlos Alberto Torres, Baresi, Maldini, Nilton Santos
Midfield: Garrincha, Beckembauer (in my team he's a midfielder), Pele, Messi
Attack: Puskas, Maradona
Well I put my top players already, but the dream team would be Juventus from a couple years back, before the scandals. I mean c'mon; the best goalkeeper in the world Buffon, the most undefeatable defence consisting of Thuram, Cannavaro etc, a damn tight midfield consisting of players like Nedved, and then the attacking players like the legendary Del Piero, Trezeguet and Imbrahimovic. That team was $#@!ing gold!
Zidane won the World Cup and European Champs back to back. In the space of 5 years he won EVERYTHING he played in. La Liga, WC, European Champs, World Player of the year 3 times in 5 years, Balloon D'or. He was the main point for that dominating French side and despite the quality in that Madrid team they relied on ZZ a heck of a lot.
That Volley against Levekusen IS a mastery in technical ability. Hitting a falling ball, side on, with your wrong foot and putting it into the top corner? There isn't really anything more difficult.
For me, Zidane is up there with Pele and Maradona. There is a HUGE gap before I consider Messi. He needs to win something, do something, carry his National team before I consider him even close to those 3.
Yes Messi is still young and his ability to glide past players is fantastic, but until he produces it regularly for Argentina, he can't touch those other 3.
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I have a problem with you guys putting players like Maradona and Pele and Beckenbauer on your lists. Were you guys even born yet when they were playing? I'm not putting those legends on my list because I wasn't fortunate enough of getting the opportunity too see them play. It doesn't seem right.
Last edited by Sleepy; 07-13-2011 at 22:07.
MAradona was a cheating druggy though.
Sorry but Messi isn't close to what Zidane has achieved. Remove Messi from that Barca team and it probably still walks La Liga and the CL, remove Zidane from Madrid and it doesn't win either.
Messi hasn't done ANYTHING, ANYTHING at International Level. If what Messi has achieved for Barca is enough to consider him up with the absolute bestn then Gerrard is up there too. Even ahead given he has single handidly won everything for Liverpool bar the League.
Sorry but I don't think cleaning up with your club team that is full or World Cup winners is sufficient for 'one of all time great' status when you've done naff all at International level, in what is a pretty impressive National team. In fact, based on the Copa America Kun is more important to Argentina.
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