Slow site

[F34R]

I don't want anything out of this.. I'm just discussing a topic lol. I don't have any agenda or hidden motives, etc. I accept that I could be completely wrong. However, with the statement you made that you had to investigate it, means I could also be completely right.

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No one is jumping down your throat bro.

[dc89]

I had a idea about us being under attack. That's all. You and Cuguy explained to me that attacks are much worse than this, after all you guys are more knowledgable on this kind of thing because when you came here you said you are very experienced in running websites, so if it was an attack you'd know straight away.

I don't know as much as you and Cuguy on that front, I'm a complete NOOB, so I believe you 100%. I have to because you have the knowledge and access to the stats which counter my old idea.

I believe what you are telling us, you have nothing to hide. I can't put it any other way than I believe what you are telling me.

Mr B, there is nothing more I can say to convince you that I trust in what you are saying to me.

[T0PGUN]

ban the non-believers B!

[F34R]

I definitely don't think it's an attack, I already ruled that out on my own.

[Blacksite]

I accept that I could be completely wrong.

Hahahahaha!!!

[*goo]

That's funny because...

[Blacksite]

That's funny because...

Because I never thought I'd read those words from F34R.

[F34R]

Because I never thought I'd read those words from F34R.

ROFL. All jokes aside, I've never been wrong, so this is new territory for me.

[Mr.Bishop]

Thanks for the confidence dc89!

I honestly want everyone to know that we're here and working hard for you guys. We believe in this place, and are here to keep it running.

I don't want anything out of this.. I'm just discussing a topic lol. I don't have any agenda or hidden motives, etc. I accept that I could be completely wrong. However, with the statement you made that you had to investigate it, means I could also be completely right.

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No one is jumping down your throat bro.

Derp... you are bro.

You are wrong... I had to investigate it then I found out the truth.... which I explained and therefore I know exactly what caused this. So unless you believe what I laid out when I explained what was causing this... you are 100% incorrect and just being difficult.

You're not discussing either... you're not listening or saying anything... just being difficult.

I definitely don't think it's an attack, I already ruled that out on my own.

Hahahahaha!!!

So come on... what possible explanation do you have? I'd absolutely love to hear this if for nothing other than the entertainment of hearing what kind of conspiracy theory you could possibly cook up. It must be a doozy.

[Blacksite]

Well, I have no reason to doubt Mr. Bishop. Our previous site-owner (Seb a.k.a. Morpheus, if I remember correctly) rarely attended to PSU's problems.

[dc89]

Exactly.

Im just gonna get this out and then I can personally draw a line under it.

I PM'D my own theory to Mr B. he squashed it like a bug and explained its technically impossible. I trust Mr B, he owns the site (or is the voice of the owner, can't remember which) And I volunteer to moderate his site. I don't have to, but I enjoy doing it. So why would I not trust what he has told me?

I suggest anyone who has a theory to Pm Mr B and he will explain and reassure you, like he did to me. then you can move on too and go post about video games, the reason we are all here.

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[Mr.Bishop]

Exactly.

Im just gonna get this out and then I can personally draw a line under it.

I PM'D my own theory to Mr B. he squashed it like a bug and explained its technically impossible. I trust Mr B, he owns the site (or is the voice of the owner, can't remember which) And I volunteer to moderate his site. I don't have to, but I enjoy doing it. So why would I not trust what he has told me?

I suggest anyone who has a theory to Pm Mr B and he will explain and reassure you, like he did to me. then you can move on too and go post about video games, the reason we areal here.

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Yeah man thanks!

I'm absolutely willing to explain anything to anyone... if you don't want to air it out in public, hit me up on PM or over email.

I'm the voice of the owners on a point of technicality. Though, I have full authority to manage the site how I wish.

[T0PGUN]

Exactly.

Im just gonna get this out and then I can personally draw a line under it.

I PM'D my own theory to Mr B. he squashed it like a bug and explained its technically impossible. I trust Mr B, he owns the site (or is the voice of the owner, can't remember which) And I volunteer to moderate his site. I don't have to, but I enjoy doing it. So why would I not trust what he has told me?

I suggest anyone who has a theory to Pm Mr B and he will explain and reassure you, like he did to me. then you can move on too and go post about video games, the reason we are all here.

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Moar mind control??!!!

[F34R]

B

I don't know why its important to you but to keep the peace I'll just agree with you. I'll pm you.

[Ixion]

This argument would have all been prevented if Seb was still our owner.

Because he never talked to us.

[F34R]

This argument would have all been prevented if Seb was still our owner.

Because he never talked to us.

Lol. Too funny.

[Mr.Bishop]

B

I don't know why its important to you but to keep the peace I'll just agree with you. I'll pm you.

Please do!

This discussion is important to me because I want to give 100% faith that we are addressing issues. When you go out of your way to just say "I'll agree with you to keep the peace" that means you are saying you think something else is happening.

You are wrong, and I have given you an explanation as to the exact truth of what is happening. If you have alternate theories, show them to me so I can help show why those theories are not true. You may bow out of this conversation by either staying silent, or admitting that I have finally shown you proper evidence to prove my claim.

I do not want anyone to see this conversation and think that we're doing anything but being 100% honest with the PSU community. That is very important to me. We are trying to address issues and move forwards, and without some trust and faith in our work - we'll always spiral out of control into ridiculous discussions like this.

[gangsta_795]

Please do!

This discussion is important to me because I want to give 100% faith that we are addressing issues. When you go out of your way to just say "I'll agree with you to keep the peace" that means you are saying you think something else is happening.

You are wrong, and I have given you an explanation as to the exact truth of what is happening. If you have alternate theories, show them to me so I can help show why those theories are not true. You may bow out of this conversation by either staying silent, or admitting that I have finally shown you proper evidence to prove my claim.

I do not want anyone to see this conversation and think that we're doing anything but being 100% honest with the PSU community. That is very important to me. We are trying to address issues and move forwards, and without some trust and faith in our work - we'll always spiral out of control into ridiculous discussions like this.

You're doing just that. We know you guys will get it fixed.

[T0PGUN]

This should be interesting, proving F34R wrong. He is never wrong.

[Agriel]

This should be interesting, proving F34R wrong. He is never wrong.

Correction, he will never admit to being wrong, the best you can hope from him is that he tries to get you to agree that you are BOTH wrong, but he was right about part of it lol

[T0PGUN]

Im glad you wrote that and not me Ag

but yeah, 100% correct haha

[F34R]

Please do!

This discussion is important to me because I want to give 100% faith that we are addressing issues. When you go out of your way to just say "I'll agree with you to keep the peace" that means you are saying you think something else is happening.

You are wrong, and I have given you an explanation as to the exact truth of what is happening. If you have alternate theories, show them to me so I can help show why those theories are not true. You may bow out of this conversation by either staying silent, or admitting that I have finally shown you proper evidence to prove my claim.

I do not want anyone to see this conversation and think that we're doing anything but being 100% honest with the PSU community. That is very important to me. We are trying to address issues and move forwards, and without some trust and faith in our work - we'll always spiral out of control into ridiculous discussions like this.

I already PM'd you. Let it go already, I tried to bow out, but people either keep replying to me, or bringing my name back into. Quite replying to me, and the others can stop bringing it up, and I'll be glad to stay silent.
Would you like for me to climb atop a building and shout that you're right, then upload that to youtube?

This should be interesting, proving F34R wrong. He is never wrong.

Correction, he will never admit to being wrong, the best you can hope from him is that he tries to get you to agree that you are BOTH wrong, but he was right about part of it lol

Too much jelly in the thread. I've moved on. Mr. B has proven me wrong.

[T0PGUN]

Just say "Ok, i was wrong" F34R

[Bligmerk]

This situation with this site slowing down to almost crashing intermittently has been going on for years, at least 4 that I can remember. I remember some of the early ones and they were explainable. There was the launch of the PS3 and this site was absolutely jammed with people trying to get pre-orders, where it was best to camp out, which stores had stock left. Then during E3, it would jam up. It would again jam up for TGS.

The difference here was those times could be associated with specific events. Now, with the slowdowns this past year, there are multiple reasons being given by the people running this place and they have no consistency and don't make rational sense if all the explanations are viewed at the same time. The slowdown that started this thread sure looked like a DDoS because the usual number of active connections was going above 5000 when it had normally settled down to well below 1000, usually not getting over 500.

The explanation that it was a stress test doesn't make any sense. Anybody that has hung around here long enough knows this site can't handle more than about 2000 to 3000 active connections. This has been known and obvious for many years, why keep doing stress tests to prove the same thing over and over without actually having changed the infrastructure?

Further up this thread, Mr. Bishop said it *definitely* is not bots, they are absolutely sure. In fact, the statement at the time was that a "fortuitous set of circumstances" was resulting in the higher traffic. And at the time, the registered user numbers were clicking steadily upward. Suddenly, the active numbers dropped back to the new normal, and the registered user numbers started clicking back down, obviously bogus accounts being deactivated.

Now, we have even another explanation that "redirects" are occurring from some ambiguous site periodically at night. Now wait a second. That is how DDoS works, using redirects to pummel a site into crashing. And a DDoS isn't necessarily a full scale DDoS, it may be a stress test on its own to find out how many active connections it takes to bring down the site. The whole point is to quantify and catalog vulnerabilities, to launch a full attack when the time comes.

It doesn't matter to me what the real reason is, just that every time it happens, it is a disincentive for active interest in the site.

[Mr.Bishop]

I already PM'd you. Let it go already, I tried to bow out, but people either keep replying to me, or bringing my name back into. Quite replying to me, and the others can stop bringing it up, and I'll be glad to stay silent.

Good, hopefully we can have a reasonable and intelligent discussion over PM. I will drag this discussion on to the end of eternity until you actually believe that I am telling you the truth. Like the engergizer bunny I'm going to fucking go and go and go and go. I will not have untrue rumours existing in people's minds - forget winning an argument.

Would you like for me to climb atop a building and shout that you're right, then upload that to youtube?

Well yeah that would be great. What I really want is for you to actually believe me though, and again I hope we can sort this out better over PM. If you have other serious issues, lets talk about those but in terms of this thread.... the slow site is being caused by the reasons I have laid out and that is the end of it.

Too much jelly in the thread. I've moved on. Mr. B has proven me wrong.

I'll move on too, and thanks if you do mean this. If you don't, lets keep going.