Friendly debate: Who's the better Soldier? Big Boss or Solid Snake

[$Greatness$]

Ard! Was having a debate with a friend of mine and he was telling him how "All-World" Solid Snake is. Seeing as I'm a bigger fan of Big Boss, I told him about the struggle and hardships of Big Boss in MGS3. I think Big Boss had it tougher than Snake in the battlefield. I mean, the man pissed his pants from Human Voltage and then got shot in the eye, lol!

I will say, though....

I do think Solid Snake had a super tough road in MGS4. The microwave gave him a slight edge over my man Big Boss in that respect.

With that being said, I still think Big Boss is better! He had to fight The End, The Boss, an entire nation to complete the mission! But enough of that... who do you think is better. Let's discuss, MGS fans.

P.S - In a non-story driven battle, Big Boss beats Snake. Sorry kids

[LegendaryAim]

Big Boss in his absolute prime will take Solid Snake down in his.

[1solidsnake]

big boss, snake at it easier with all the tech he gets from otacon.

[R3D D3V!L]

Well technically they are the same person but I'd say Big Boss, he had less technology than his clone.

[ps3freak18]

Snake got everything he knows from Big Boss. It's in his genes. Big boss hands down. Without Big Boss, Snake wouldn't be.

[Funeralfog]

technically, they are the same person

[ps3freak18]

technically, they are the same person

Yep. Big boss came first so he gets the edge imo.

[Kakihara_Anjo]

technically, they are the same person

They have the same genetics doesn't mean they are the same person. Life experiences shape you just as much as, if not more than genetics.

This would be like saying identical twins are the same person, because their genetics are the same.

Snake got everything he knows from Big Boss. It's in his genes. Big boss hands down. Without Big Boss, Snake wouldn't be.

So your father is a better than you, because without him, you would not be.
Is this essentially your argument here?

[DreDayDetox]

So your father is a better than you, because without him, you would not be.
Is this essentially your argument here?

I think that was pretty clear. Without Big Boss donating his DNA to whomever, Solid Snake, Solidus and Liquid would not exist. Cause&effect.

[Kakihara_Anjo]

I think that was pretty clear. Without Big Boss donating his DNA to whomever, Solid Snake, Solidus and Liquid would not exist. Cause&effect.

That really is your argument? I really thought I was misunderstanding, because it makes little sense.
Your argument would mean each generation is worse then the one before. Your parents donated DNA to you, their parents donated to them.

By your arguments some small fish that first grew a spine millions of years ago is far greater than any of us, because without that species we would not exist.

You mention cause and effect. But ignore that effect can be much greater then the cause.

[zex494]

By your arguments some small fish that first grew a spine millions of years ago is far greater than any of us, because without that species we would not exist.

uh..don't know bout the rest of you guys,but my ancestors weren't fish so...yeah.

also,this is almost an impossible question to answer but if I had to take one of them on a mission with me I'd pick SS b/c when he smokes i could try to find the "no smoking" sign around him

[Croyles]

uh..don't know bout the rest of you guys,but my ancestors weren't fish so...yeah.

also,this is almost an impossible question to answer but if I had to take one of them on a mission with me I'd pick SS b/c when he smokes i could try to find the "no smoking" sign around him

All of our ancestors were in the sea at some point, unless you believe in creationism, in which case, I would find it hard to believe that you actually enjoy the MG franchise.

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The question was who is the better soldier, and the answer is clearly Big Boss (BB in his prime vs SS in his). I think people are mixing it up with who their favourite character is though, which is a different thing all together (mine would be Solid Snake for sure, he was more sympathetic than Big Boss).
So, better soldier = Big Boss
Better person = Solid Snake

I think that was pretty clear. Without Big Boss donating his DNA to whomever, Solid Snake, Solidus and Liquid would not exist. Cause&effect.

That makes very little sense, and is not how cause and effect works. All new generations are weaker than the previous?

EDIT: I just noticed this thread is old as hell. Woops.

[DreDayDetox]

I chose Big Boss, a.k.a. Naked Snake, a.k.a. FUCKING BADASS!

Here's why

- He knows CQC and is up par to the former Boss or even stronger because he learned more techniques later on throughout peace walker era incident, and not only that, but he did help develop CQC in the first place

- Better survival skills. Big Boss can adapt to any environment

- Strong leader. He formed MSF, and Outer Heaven.

But Solid Snake is awesome too cause he can adapt with the times and any technology. He's also an expert marksman and he can take a lot of pain, like his father.

[Fon]

I chose Big Boss, a.k.a. Naked Snake, a.k.a. FUCKING BADASS!

Here's why

- He knows CQC and is up par to the former Boss or even stronger because he learned more techniques later on throughout peace walker era incident, and not only that, but he did help develop CQC in the first place

- Better survival skills. Big Boss can adapt to any environment

- Strong leader. He formed MSF, and Outer Heaven.

But Solid Snake is awesome too cause he can adapt with the times and any technology. He's also an expert marksman and he can take a lot of pain, like his father.

This.

[ps3freak18]

I chose Big Boss, a.k.a. Naked Snake, a.k.a. FUCKING BADASS!

Here's why

- He knows CQC and is up par to the former Boss or even stronger because he learned more techniques later on throughout peace walker era incident, and not only that, but he did help develop CQC in the first place

- Better survival skills. Big Boss can adapt to any environment

- Strong leader. He formed MSF, and Outer Heaven.

But Solid Snake is awesome too cause he can adapt with the times and any technology. He's also an expert marksman and he can take a lot of pain, like his father.

/thread.

[bigCman123]

I chose Big Boss, a.k.a. Naked Snake, a.k.a. FUCKING BADASS!

Here's why

- He knows CQC and is up par to the former Boss or even stronger because he learned more techniques later on throughout peace walker era incident, and not only that, but he did help develop CQC in the first place

- Better survival skills. Big Boss can adapt to any environment

- Strong leader. He formed MSF, and Outer Heaven.

But Solid Snake is awesome too cause he can adapt with the times and any technology. He's also an expert marksman and he can take a lot of pain, like his father.

This pretty much sums up everything I wanted to add to the discussion.

Solid Snake is awesome, but Big Boss is the original. Both kick ass though.

[Sufi]

Well, Solid Snake doesn't have the advantage here due to age...because that means experience and well, he's a clone so that sorta messes things up.

SS was brought up in a very controlled environment whereas BB learned everything hands on, from the best of the best, and the hard way.

There's just no competition. SS was always supposed to be a mere shadow of BB.

[$Greatness$]

Yes and no. While they are the same person, they do have different personalities. Yeah he's a clone, but not a walking drone version which is why I posted this. But Dre won the thread, haha.

[Xelios]

Neither, because they both (inevitably die).

In the paraphrased words of Snake: Soldiers stay on the battlefield, bound to fight wars, and they never go home. Or something like that.

And since they both die, they both abandon their beliefs.

[$Greatness$]

Neither, because they both (inevitably die).

In the paraphrased words of Snake: Soldiers stay on the battlefield, bound to fight wars, and they never go home. Or something like that.

And since they both die, they both abandon their beliefs.

lolwut?

[Ghost-Rhayne]

Neither, because they both (inevitably die).

In the paraphrased words of Snake: Soldiers stay on the battlefield, bound to fight wars, and they never go home. Or something like that.

And since they both die, they both abandon their beliefs.

This doesn't make any sense lol Neither of them abandoned their beliefs, their beliefs changed (MGS4 ending)

Big Boss for president.

[DayWalker]

Off-topic-

Amazon has the 360 version of MGS HD Collection for "half" the price of the PS3 version... what gives?

[$Greatness$]

Off-topic-

Amazon has the 360 version of MGS HD Collection for "half" the price of the PS3 version... what gives?

Because it's a staple on the Sony system. A lot more people think Playstation when they think the MGS series to be honest. Gamestop online don't even sell the PS3 edition anymore, they only have the 360 version left. I got lucky in getting the Limited Edition from the Lamestop I got it from near my father's house.

[TDbank24]

I'm going with Snake. You can never underestimate a snake in the grass.

[Ariakace]

Yeah id have to give the edge to Big Boss over Solid Snake. less technology meant harder physical and mental training and focus, you probably couldnt always rely on the tech of his era and he had to do camoflage the old school way. facepaint and different BDU's and using crocodile heads to hide from guards. Big Boss definately had it harder in his time than Solid Snake did. and No, they are not the same person. Just genetically are they the same. If i were to go and find DNA from Adolf Hitler, clone him, and have him raised with a nice family from like, San Fransisco or something, what are the odds he would try taking over the world? hed probably be to pre-occupied with taking over the coreography of the next gay pride parade dancers, so with that in mind, NO, they are not the same person. everything they have is identical except for life experiences.