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    Why are You Blocking sigs?

    I asked this in the feedback thread but I really did not get any real response to my question so I made a new thread. I appreciate the updates especially the storefront and icons but I have a problem with sig blocking. They are hosted externally... and people didn't spend time and effort on it just for it to be blocked to anyone who isn't signed in.

    I want the many guests who read the arsenal thread to be able to see my sig and links. Why should guests not be able to see somethingI want to show them?

    There are WAY MORE people who consume the site by not signing in. Why can't the majority of users not see my sig?

    Last edited by Firefox; 11-27-2011 at 22:40.

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    Ah, yes. This seemed to fall into the background amongst all of the other discussions taking place in the Update thread. This is a good point, and something that needs to be resolved. I don't care which path we take to solve the issue, but it needs to be solved.

    - We could remove the ability for guests to see signatures at all. Simply "blocking" the images makes the site look terrible, especially when people have signatures like mine. It looks like a mess, and likely discourages users from joining the website.

    - We could do as Firefox here has suggested, and permit guests to see signatures.

    Doesn't matter to me which avenue we take, but blocking them is an aesthetic nightmare.
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    If they don't want guests to see stuff, then they don't see stuff. Yes, it looks like $#@!... but that's their choice, or they don't know how bad it looks.

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    It looking bad is secondary.. the main thing is people spending time and effort on their own externally hosted sigs only for the majority of users to not see it.

    There are 50 members signed in and 420 guests.

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    Users =/= members. That's the meat and potatoes of it.

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    I have to agree. There's no reason to not show the signatures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    I have to agree. There's no reason to not show the signatures.
    It's a members benefit. That's the main reason.

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    That doesn't make any sense to me.

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    guests can browse the forums
    members can post in the forums
    subs have other benefits that members don't

    what's so hard to understand?

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    Yeah, that really does make no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    guests can browse the forums
    members can post in the forums
    subs have other benefits that members don't

    what's so hard to understand?
    I just don't understand the point in creating an unnecessary dichotomy when it serves zero purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    It's a members benefit. That's the main reason.
    The assumption being guests are not as important as members?

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    I couldn't care less about this if it weren't for the fact that it just looks terrible. Seriously... We don't want to make guests think this place is a mess, when it isn't.
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    Also, guests don't even know the sigs are there to begin with. There isn't any "become a member to view sig" anywhere to be seen in place of the picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzane2050 View Post
    Also, guests don't even know the sigs are there to begin with. There isn't any "become a member to view sig" anywhere to be seen in place of the picture.
    I believe there is something along those lines, actually. My only problem with it is that, with my signature for example, it looks like a gigantic mess. My post appears to be triple its length because of the way the notices stack on top of one another.
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    I hate the fact that it's so damn repetitive.

    Last edited by Metal King Slime; 11-28-2011 at 00:57.
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    I'm positive they can fix the repetitive nature of the message...

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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    I'm positive they can fix the repetitive nature of the message...
    If so, that would clear up the issue in my eyes, as well.
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    In addition to my right in showing my sigs to anyone...there is also a financial view. Guests are giving you most of your money. To discriminate against them is just bad for the forums in the long run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefox View Post
    In addition to my right in showing my sigs to anyone...there is also a financial view. Guests are giving you most of your money. To discriminate against them is just bad for the forums in the long run.
    Discriminate? I'm not sure that's really much of an issue. It isn't so much that guests will be outraged that they can't view signatures, but that it makes the site look bad. Think about it.. When you go onto a forum you've never been on before, what is it you look at? Are you more interested in the specifics of each users' signatures, or the general appearance of the forum? One users signature won't prompt you to register / not register. But when every single signature looks like a mess, that will make the guest subconsciously a bit less likely to want to join.
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    They just need to make it say "To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts." (Though is it really post based? Thats lame. Lol) once not repeat itself and it'll be fine.

    its not the first forum I've seen do something like this, and it wont be the last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefox View Post
    In addition to my right in showing my sigs to anyone...there is also a financial view. Guests are giving you most of your money. To discriminate against them is just bad for the forums in the long run.
    You'll have to show me where you have the right to show a sig to anyone lol. Discriminate? Oh cmon now...

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    1. Firefox - I am blocking your signature so I don't have to see it anymore. =p

    2. Guests are not going to sign up to view signatures. What important purpose do they serve other than allowing the members to express themselves? Guests aren't really going to care.

    3. I am not sure where I stand on the guests being able to view or not view signatures. If we are going to block them, we should just block them, without any message saying to view signatures sign up and post this many times. People aren't going to sign up to view other people's signatures.

    If people don't care about posting, they won't care about signatures.
    Last edited by sainraja; 11-28-2011 at 05:08.

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    I gotta say in the grand scheme of things, this is a really low ranking argument to make.

    Discrimination? No.

    That is a stretch.

    I will look into this, to see if it is something that can be removed, but not all sigs are externally hosted. If that is even the reason those limitations are in place.
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