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    Quote Originally Posted by uofmtiger View Post
    No, I don't pirate music, software, or movies. In the US, MOG and Spotify both have free versions if you just want to sample music...not sure about other countries, though.

    PS I don't consider Time shifting (Tivo) the same as pirating.
    Plus iTunes and Amazon both have a 30-40 second samples of usually every track on an album, and other legit sources like YT for a few complete tracks. Needing to "review" the album as a justification for an illegal download just doesn't fly for the most part.
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    If i pirate bad games i dont feel bad at all, but exactly the opposite.
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    Maybe the games are bad bcuz smalltime developers cannot gamble against piracy and its associated losses for the company.
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    I think its time for developers to optimize their games properly, im tired of games that run below 20 fps even on a decent computer or console. I mostly pirate games because of their bad optimization.

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    That is a real nonsense excuse. And games don't run @ 20fps on PC unless you make them do so.
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    Have you ever played saints row 2 on pc?
    Have you played gta 4 on ps3?
    Read your post once again and then you will realize how non sense it is.

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    Complaining about a game running slow on your PC is just plain amusing.

    Also, how is pirating a game going to make it run better on your PS3?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzane2050 View Post
    Complaining about a game running slow on your PC is just plain amusing. Also, how is pirating a game going to make it run better on your PS3?...
    The game he mentioned, Saints Row 2, is a poorly-optimized title for the PC. But I guess you wouldn't know that seeing as how you only pay attention to picking the best games, am I right?

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    PC is an open platform. It is silly to complain that you have a poor framerate in the game. And pirating is not going to make the game any better, now, is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzane2050 View Post
    PC is an open platform. It is silly to complain that you have a poor framerate in the game. And pirating is not going to make the game any better, now, is it?
    You do not understand at all. Saints Row 2 is a poorly-optimized title. For comparison's sake, I can run Left 4 Dead 2 just fine on High settings and yet I can't run Saints Row 2 at a decent frame-rate on Medium settings even though the game was released earlier in the year. I uninstalled that **** because Volition and CD Projekt did a lazy job on porting it over to Windows.

    Don't give me this tiresome bull**** about how we need to sit back and do nothing when consumers are getting screwed over by the people whom they give their money to. You couldn't even understand the simple concept of boycotting products. Someone made a thread about boycotting Ubisoft products in the PC section and you immediately accused him of piracy.
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    Meh, I feel good when I download something, saves me money for buying better things.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksite View Post
    You do not understand at all. Saints Row 2 is a poorly-optimized title. For comparison's sake, I can run Left 4 Dead 2 just fine on High settings and yet I can't run Saints Row 2 at a decent frame-rate on Medium settings even though the game was released earlier in the year. I uninstalled that **** because Volition and CD Projekt did a lazy job on porting it over to Windows.

    Don't give me this tiresome bull**** about how we need to sit back and do nothing when consumers are getting screwed over by the people whom they give their money to. You couldn't even understand the simple concept of boycotting products. Someone made a thread about boycotting Ubisoft products in the PC section and you immediately accused him of piracy.
    Inzane i hope you finally understand what i mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksite View Post
    Oh my god, you do not understand at all. Saints Row 2 is a poorly-optimized title. For comparison's sake, I can run Left 4 Dead 2 just fine on High settings and yet I can't run Saints Row 2 at a decent frame-rate on Medium settings even though the game was released earlier in the year. I uninstalled that **** because Volition and CD Projekt did a lazy job on porting it over to Windows.
    Left 4 Dead was a 60fps game on consoles. That is why it ran better. Either way, turn down the settings or get a better card AND BOOM! Instant better framerate just as you wanted. And pirating a game will not magically improve the framerate.

    And CD Project did not "make a lazy port to Windows." That is absolutely absurb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzane2050 View Post
    Left 4 Dead was a 60fps game on consoles. That is why it ran better. Either way, turn down the settings or get a better card AND BOOM! Instant better framerate just as you wanted. And pirating a game will not magically improve the framerate.

    And CD Project did not "make a lazy port to Windows." That is absolutely absurb.
    No, you can read my post again. You should read all of it actually. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksite View Post
    ...Don't give me this tiresome bull**** about how we need to sit back and do nothing when consumers are getting screwed over by the people whom they give their money to....
    This is similar to what I feel. With these types of products you can't return it if your unsatisfied with the product. You can't call Apple and say you bought a ****ty album of iTunes and you want your money back. 30-45sec song samples are not enough to properly evaluate something like music or a movie. When you buy these types of products you're now stuck with your decision. Even renting has become much more difficult, with most outlets now requiring credit cards.

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    Left 4 Dead is a 60fps console game on an old PC engine and Saints Row is a 30fps game of a current generation engine. Which is why you can...
    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksite View Post
    run Left 4 Dead 2 just fine on High settings and yet I can't run Saints Row 2 at a decent frame-rate on Medium settings even though the game was released earlier in the year.
    So what exactly am i "misreading?"

    But anyways, how does pirating the game improve the framerate?

    And how was CD Project's Witcher a "lazily ported to Windows?" I am ecstatic to hear about your conjecture on that.
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    I only pirate music, and I don't feel bad about it. If an artists finds it acceptable to put out a CD with two good songs on it, **** them for expecting me to buy it.

    As far as piracy hurting the industry, Gabe Newell said it best. Make a good product, provide a good service, and people will buy it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzane2050 View Post
    And how was CD Project's Witcher a "poorly ported game on Windows?" I would like to hear about that.
    I was talking about Saints Row 2.

    Again, you need to actually read people's posts before replying to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzane2050 View Post
    Left 4 Dead is a 60fps console game on an old PC engine and Saints Row is a 30fps game of a current generation engine. Which is why you can...
    But anyways, how does pirating the game improve the framerate?

    And how was CD Project's Witcher a "poorly ported game on Windows?" I would like to hear about that.
    He didn't say it does, he said he didn't want to pay for a game that the developers didn't take the time to properly polish.
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    Go play the demo for Quantum of Solace no amount of super powerful processor or GPU is going render more than 30FPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksite View Post
    I was talking about Saints Row 2.

    Again, you need to actually read people's posts before replying to them.
    I'm not going to play this game with you. You are playing dumb with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzane2050 View Post
    I'm not going to play this game with you. You are playing dumb with me.
    You even quoted me when I mentioned Saints Row 2. This is hilarious. Really...

    When I asked you to read my post again I was talking about not ignoring the second-half of my post. So I'm not going to try and play your little game where you take what someone says and make it appear as though they said something else.

    This is the part of my post you ignored:

    Don't give me this tiresome bull**** about how we need to sit back and do nothing when consumers are getting screwed over by the people whom they give their money to. You couldn't even understand the simple concept of boycotting products. Someone made a thread about boycotting Ubisoft products in the PC section and you immediately accused him of piracy.

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    Eh... No. You were not talking about the second part of your post. You told me...
    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksite View Post
    I was talking about Saints Row 2.

    Again, you need to actually read people's posts before replying to them.
    You are right. Sorry for not mentioning Saint Rows 2 in my post.
    Left 4 Dead is a 60fps console game on an old PC engine and Saints Row is a 30fps game of a current generation engine. Which is why you can...
    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksite View Post
    run Left 4 Dead 2 just fine on High settings and yet I can't run Saints Row 2 at a decent frame-rate on Medium settings even though the game was released earlier in the year.
    So what exactly am i "misreading?"

    But anyways, how does pirating the game improve the framerate?
    But anyways, please, how were Volition and CD Project's games a "lazily ported to Windows? Please don't dodge this again.

    Also, I never quoted the second part of your post bcuz I did not care to say anything about it. Ubisoft games are well ported to PC.

    Also, I seriously do not care for these childish mind games... So have a real discussion or not at all.


    Edit: You're silence says it all.
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    I'll play your little game though. Yes, if I wanted that car, and based on the criteria I'd use to decide to download a movie, I'd steal that **** in a heartbeat. The same goes with a purse, or any other item I wanted.
    even if it was an elderly 90+ yr old helpless lady?

    wow. this is actually sad to read smh

    this is why i have so little hope for humanity

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    I try not to pirate...but still do plenty of times for stuff I want.

    And to answer the OP no, if I felt bad about doing it, why would I?
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