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    Quote Originally Posted by Metfanant View Post
    It wouldn't run at 60fps..not on the PS3 or 360 anyway...and that's why you won't see it...

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    It doesn't have to be on the same technical level. It can be toned down for 60fps if they take out a lot of the advanced rendering techniques. The colors are what I really enjoy about Frostbite 2. It would be a nice change to see.
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    What else would need to be improved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzane2050 View Post
    It doesn't have to be on the same technical level. It can be toned down for 60fps if they take out a lot of the advanced rendering techniques. The colors are what I really enjoy about Frostbite 2. It would be a nice change to see.
    the engine is designed to run at 30fps...so it would need to be retooled extensively...and if you're going to remove the "advanced rendering techniques" there is no point to us the engine at all...

    If all you want is color then that is doable in IW 5.0 just as easily as it is in Frostbite 2

    Though i think its the lighting technique you like more so than the colors themselves...

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    Even without the lighting, it is still beautiful. Unique visual styling isn't something really hindered by horsepower. And that is why games like DMC, Ninja Gaiden, Rage, Half-Life 2, Dead or Alive, Chronicles of Rid$#@! (PC), Mortal Kombat, etc, all look very unique and different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzane2050 View Post
    Even without the lighting, it is still beautiful. Unique visual styling isn't something really hindered by horsepower. And that is why games like DMC, Ninja Gaiden, Rage, Half-Life 2, Dead or Alive, Chronicles of Rid$#@! (PC), Mortal Kombat, etc, all look very unique and different.
    Eh...you would probably be surprized at how much lighting effects a game...its one of the biggest strength of games like Killzone and Gran Turismo...

    But you can't just gloss over the horsepower...because like I've stated before, IW said from the start that 60fps is the most important aspect of their engine...that puts a handicap on what they are able to do in other areas...

    A LOT more goes into making BF3 look good than just colors and artistic design...

    What you're looking for has little to nothing to do with the games engine but simply artistic style...that can be manipulated in any engine...for instance the difference between Gears and Batman even though they run the same engine...

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    PC color mods serve as proof that you don't need another engine to drastically improve the image. MW3's new lighting is actually pretty similar to BF3's basic lighting techniques tho anyways. But PC mods exist for all your favorite games like Crysis and Call of Duty, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzane2050 View Post
    PC color mods serve as proof that you don't need another engine to drastically improve the image. MW3's new lighting is actually pretty similar to BF3's basic lighting techniques tho anyways. But PC mods exist for all your favorite games like Crysis and Call of Duty, etc.
    Very few mods are going to be simple color pallet changes...usually tons of texture work done there

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    No, color mods are not texture mods. Color mods are just post processing applied over the image to recolor it and nothing else. You should see what have been done with Crysis alone. They are all spectacular and very unique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzane2050 View Post
    No, color mods are not texture mods. Color mods are just post processing applied over the image to recolor it and nothing else. You should see what have been done with Crysis alone. They are all spectacular and very unique.
    i did not say color mods ARE texture mods...but the vast majority of mods are going to include texture improvements...

    Sure you can achieve things with changes to the colors...but textures/shaders/lighting are where you're going to see significant improvements to the graphics of a game

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    PC gamers can easilly manipulate the colour using their driver control panel in any game.

    http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3...4624800284779/





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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    PC gamers can easilly manipulate the colour using their driver control panel.

    http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3...4624800284779/





    Absolutely...which do i prefer? The modified image because the eye is naturally drawn to more vibrant colors...

    However does it offer a real "improvement" to the visuals? Arguable as the color scheme is a very subjective area...whereas texture improvements, or better lighting or shaders are just...well better lol...

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    The second image is taken to the extreme it can be tweaked to where the individual prefers it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keefy View Post
    The second image is taken to the extreme it can be tweaked to where the individual prefers it.
    oh absolutely...the beauty of PC gaming...it truly is the proper platform to game on from a technical standpoint...

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    These color mods I am talking about don't include textures, and these color mods have the significant improvements. Either way, a texture from Battlefield 3 is no more demanding than Call of Duty's textures. Unless you are taking spectular textures from games like Castlevania or Crysis and putting them in Call of Duty, then that would be a different story.

    And so I can help you understand:

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    maybe this game will be a launch game for the ps4 and next xbox

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzane2050 View Post
    These color mods I am talking about don't include textures, and these color mods have the significant improvements. Either way, a texture from Battlefield 3 is no more demanding than Call of Duty's textures. Unless you are taking spectular textures from games like Castlevania or Crysis and putting them in Call of Duty, then that would be a different story.

    And so I can help you understand:

    I don't need to see videos if people tweaking the colors on games...however there is no real tangible improvement to the graphics by doin so...simply personal preference to the colors...

    Real improvement to graphics comes from modeling, lighting, textures, and shaders...period...

    Textures from one game to the other certainly make a difference...the textures in BF3 hand MW3 are not the same.. Insult removed ~23


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    Well you can believe what you want then, but there is no reason for you to call me an idiot.
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    Well you can believe what you want then, but there is no reason for you to call me an idiot.
    There's a reason that BF3 runs at half the frame rate as MW3. smh You might as well give up. You're digging the hole even deeper. You've gone from one argument to the next, being proven wrong at each turn.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    There's a reason that BF3 runs at half the frame rate as MW3. smh You might as well give up. You're digging the hole even deeper. You've gone from one argument to the next, being proven wrong at each turn.
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    Guys, please agree to disagree before you resort to insults.
    It isn't so much that it's a disagreement. It's more about one person being factually incorrect about the issues of improvements on the series. I agree that there shouldn't be any insults though.




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    It's not a 'next-gen' game if it has Call of Duty in the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrien View Post
    It's not a 'next-gen' game if it has Call of Duty in the title.
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    Phew, that was exhaustive ...

    Had to look back a few pages. I thought one of you guys actually
    BELIEVES that Frostbite 2.0 is truly optimized for 30 FPS.
    Cuz that's nonsense. BF 3 can only be seen on PC.
    It's definitely not optimized for 30 FPS.

    That's just the limitation of the current consoles.

    http://www.gamersyde.com/news_battle...-12211_en.html

    The mp4. Try not to drool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silo View Post
    Phew, that was exhaustive ...

    Had to look back a few pages. I thought one of you guys actually
    BELIEVES that Frostbite 2.0 is truly optimized for 30 FPS.
    Cuz that's nonsense. BF 3 can only be seen on PC.
    It's definitely not optimized for 30 FPS.

    That's just the limitation of the current consoles.

    http://www.gamersyde.com/news_battle...-12211_en.html

    The mp4. Try not to drool.
    FB 2.0 isn't going any higher than 30fps on consoles...that was my point...

    The PC is an entirely different animal

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