Will some Xbox gamers jump ship to PS4?

[radgamer420]

Hulu, Netflix, etc, are available on both HD consoles. Anyways, if you have the money for the leisure than that's great for you. But for others, an extra console outside of their reasonable budget for such.

And for those people owning two consoles would be financially irresponsible.

[Soldier 95B]

This gen i have owned all 3 consoles, my next gen purchase will be based solely on exclusives, MS will have to do better then this gen in that department if they want me to buy another console from them.

Mine is based on multiplats. I play like 20:1 multiplats vs. exclusives. However, I buy them all so I get all the games!

Loling because people aren't fortunate enough to be able to afford both systems is kind of sad to me...

I looked back at Cuguy's post and I didn't see anywhere where it said those not "fortunate". In context with other posts, it looks like he was talking about people choosing one over the other for the purpose of one not having enough games. I didn't see anything about people not being able to afford it.

Paying $280 for a console to play a couple if exclusives is a waste. Especially when you don't actively buy brand new $60 games all the time and when said exclusives are just not worth buying a new console for. No one has to buy two consoles. People are more responsible with their money than others.

I spent $300 on a PS3 to play a couple of exclusives, and I haven't found it a waste. IMO, it was well worth it and I enjoyed the few games I have played on it.

[TEJ2025]

I looked back at Cuguy's post and I didn't see anywhere where it said those not "fortunate". In context with other posts, it looks like he was talking about people choosing one over the other for the purpose of one not having enough games. I didn't see anything about people not being able to afford it.

He said "Me too.. i see no reason AT ALL, no logical or insane reason to limit myself to one console experience."
I gave a reason why some people "limit" themselves to one console. (Not enough money)

He then said "I will get both and LOL at the people who sit and complain that one version got a special playable character, or why doesn't my game play as well as theirs..."
If people can't afford both systems and have to settle for one why should they have to deal with inferior products or not getting the same experience as other people with a different system? That doesn't make sense to me and isn't really a laughable matter.

[sainraja]

@TEJ2025 -- That's not how the conversation went. He was saying that in response to claud's post.....what you're quoting as two separate posts are from just one post of his....

[F34R]

Paying $280 for a console to play a couple if exclusives is a waste. Especially when you don't actively buy brand new $60 games all the time and when said exclusives are just not worth buying a new console for. No one has to buy two consoles. People are more responsible with their money than others.

Who decides what is responsible for others? I'm with CUGUY on this. I had to buy both consoles to experience the entertainment that I wanted. Was it irresponsible for me to do that? Hell no. I have the means, and I damn well will take advantage of my income.

[radgamer420]

Who decides what is responsible for others?

Bingo.

[radgamer420]

I own all 3 consoles this generation. I'll buy two consoles next generation. I can't see myself buying a Wii U. Our Wii hasn't been turned on in over a year now. The PS3 and 360 get regular use though.The one thing I am concerned with next-gen as far as MS is concerned is reliability. They've always been extremely developer friendly in regards to the hardware design, but making the console last was a real problem with the 360. I consider myself fortunate in that I've owned a 360 since launch day, and have only had to send it in twice for RROD repairs. I don't expect MS to make the most powerful system, but I do suspect that developers will get the most of the power the system has to offer on MS's next console.With Sony, I expect them to cut back a bit on what the hardware can do. They'll build a more focused machine, rather than throwing in everything except the kitchen sink. That's not saying it will be weak, that's saying they won't waste a lot of R&D money on gimmick features that will get little support or be dropped soon after launch. They'll also use a lot of existing tech and designs where they developed brand new ones for the PS3. They'll use Bluray again, probably another Nvidia GPU, and possibly even a new version of Cell. Stick to the basics in hardware and expand the content and features via software.

That sounds about right and also makes sense.

[Completely Average]

i think this is a given...ive always looked at the PS3 as somewhat of a loss leader for Sony...they took a big risk by including Blu-ray in the PS3...and it stimulated Blu-ray sales enough to overcome HD-DVD...and technology like the Cell Processor was in truth entirely to expensive for this generation...BUT Sony chose to include it anyway....

It's not really those things that I was referring to....

When the PS3 launched it included PS2 hardware, memory card readers, otherOS, etc... The PS2 once supported hard drives, PC monitors, and keyboard and mice as well. Features that used up significant amounts of funds to develop and include, yet were all dropped in order to reduce production costs.

I think that with the PS4 Sony will abandon the "It's a PC alternative" attempts they've made with the PS3 and PS2, and will instead focus on making just a game console with expanded capabilities made via software apps rather than hardware features like they've done in the past.

It will of course also be an entertainment hub, but that much will work within the game console hardware, and won't require extra hardware and extra hardware R&D funds to support.

Paying $280 for a console to play a couple if exclusives is a waste. Especially when you don't actively buy brand new $60 games all the time and when said exclusives are just not worth buying a new console for. No one has to buy two consoles. People are more responsible with their money than others.

Meh.

I've got 3 people living in my house. I use the 360 the most because it has the most games I want to play. I do play the PS3 as well, just not as often. My wife likes the PS3 more than the 360 because she loves LBP. My daughter used to play the Wii all the time until Kinect came out for the 360. Since Kinect the Wii has gone unused.

But I still couldn't go without having at least two consoles. I don't always want to limit my gaming to games which are suitable for my 10 year old daughter to watch and play, nor do I want to have to banish her from the living room so I can play an adult game. The easy solution is to have multiple consoles in multiple rooms so everyone can play what they want, when they want to play.

You can call that "irresponsible" if you like. I'm over 40 years old, have a wife and child, and bought a Mustang GT for a car, so I'm willing to accept that I sometimes place personal pleasure above some people's idea of "financial responsibility". However, everything I own is well within my financial means, so I'm not really being irresponsible with my purchases, even if they are just for leisure or pleasure.

[Cybertox]

If the hardware is good and the price is going to be decent im going to buy the ps4. I wont buy the xbox 720 as i dont like microsofts consoles because of their technical issues. Even if the xbox 720 is going to be stable and wont have technical issues i will still wait to see what will the ps4 offer.

[Inzane2050]

And for those people owning two consoles would be financially irresponsible.

If you can afford it, then no, I would not consider it irresponsible. But for others as I have just said, a second console is outside their reasonable budget for such leisure.

[kryton101]

A pre xmas release in 2013 means the current 360 has been around 8 years. Longer than both the PSone and 2 before sucessors replaced them, so thats a long time but expected when it takes longer to maximise hardware and the costs are higher (a longer payback period versus investment.)

The PS3 went live 2007 in europe but given it's huge cost and investment Sony will also have to run much further before they replace it. If they go ONLY as long as the 360 then the PS4 would be a 2015 release, but personally I believe they will have to go to 2016 or even a full ten years after launch before they can justify a new console. Especially if the next PS4 embodies the same cutting edge and highly expensive chips and drives that the PS3 did. No manufacturer, not even Sony can deliver a PS3 type console every 6 years as per previsou iterations.

So my answer is no, I dont believe there will be any impetous to jump ship. People would be waiting a long time for this ship to appear on the horizon and even longer for the really good games to appear.

One of MS's strengths is that it learns and adapts and evolves faster and better than Sony (IMHO) with the controller development being a key example. The PS is essentially the same as it was in 1994. (Which doesn't seem right given how much the consoles have evolved.)

By all accounts the next xbox should be a cost effective well priced media box that allows you to have loads of fun. BC and continuation of achievements and an easy transfer of your tag and all your info is required to pull people across.

[PsychoMantis]

Ill wait like I did with the PS3. I should have waited when the PS3 first came out they had such a limited amount of good titles that I was stuck playing Resistance witch was the only decent choice. This time around I will wait not only on seeing what the launch titles are but the price as well I can't afford to shell out another $600+ agian, NO WAY. True the blu-ray drives are cheaper now than before but lets see how many bells and whistles they add to sky rocket the price.

[radgamer420]

If you can afford it, then no, I would not consider it irresponsible. But for others as I have just said, a second console is outside their reasonable budget for such leisure.

Ok, I agree with you there. In your original post it sounded like you were saying that ANYBODY that buys two consoles is being irresponsible with their money.

[Stripes]

I will buy the next xbox on launch day. This gen I waited almost 2 years. If xbox sold more than 3 times than they did last gen doesn't that mean more ps gamers jumped ship?....or maybe there are just more dual console owners than we thought.

Nah bro, everybody knows the 360 only sold to a couple million customers who all keep buying new consoles when their old ones break.

[radgamer420]

Nah bro, everybody knows the 360 only sold to a couple million customers who all keep buying new consoles when their old ones break.

And then those same couple of million customers upgraded to the slim model. lol

[sainraja]

Who decides what is responsible for others? I'm with CUGUY on this. I had to buy both consoles to experience the entertainment that I wanted. Was it irresponsible for me to do that? Hell no. I have the means, and I damn well will take advantage of my income.

I am not sure if that is where the conversation was going (what I mean is that he wasn't trying to decide what is responsible for others.) I believe what he was trying to say was that some people who choose one console over the other may have their own reasons for doing so.

It could be financial, it could be time-based or whatever. So, one shouldn't judge others based on their responses on a forum and ridicule them for owning just one console.

Basically, people can show disappointment if their version of a game isn't up to standard to the other console (and they may have their own reasons for not having the second console to make up for it.)

I don't think Cuguy may have meant it that way.....but that's how TEJ took it. Inzane added his response to it later....

But still, what's the point in laughing at others for owning one console? It is their choice....just like it is your choice to own two consoles over one so even if they have the means and don't....still a choice that they made. It goes both ways.

And there is no good reason for having two versions of a game that are not up to par. That's not up to the consumer etc. So, if people are showing disappointment....it is their right to. The developers/publishers need to be aware of that.

It's not really a laughing matter just because you can work-around it by getting the 'better' version (having both consoles.)

This isn't really directed at you....speaking generally..