Unreal Engine 4 Up And Running On Next-Gen Consoles

[Soldier 95B]

Next gen could also mean the new iPhone, the new iPad, the new Vita...it doesn't have to be PS or Xbox.

[itachi73378]

Next gen could also mean the new iPhone, the new iPad, the new Vita...it doesn't have to be PS or Xbox.

yes but console games use UE MUCH more.

[Soldier 95B]

True, but I am still pointing out it doesn't have to necessarily be PS/Xbox. I should have also mentioend Wii-U.

[itachi73378]

True but there are already been so many xbox next rumours, so there's a good chance its Wii U and xbox 3

[Inzane2050]

Why is everyone assuming Sony will bail out next generation?

[Soldier 95B]

What does that have to do with this thread?

[itachi73378]

Why is everyone assuming Sony will bail out next generation?

What does that have to do with this thread?

He means the next gen platforms Mark mentioned can be ps4. I think that's what he meant since everyone is only talking about xbox and wii u

[Soldier 95B]

Oh, ok. Yeah...this could be the PS4, Wii-U, Iphone 5, iPad 3, Xbox 3..who knows. They are all next gen hardware. It could even be next gen PC hardware.

[jlippone]

Oh, ok. Yeah...this could be the PS4, Wii-U, Iphone 5, iPad 3, Xbox 3..who knows. They are all next gen hardware. It could even be next gen PC hardware.

Yes, it could be any of those if they have around 2-4Tflops of processing power and is flexible enough.

UE4 most likely is quite big departure from we have seen with previous versions so it may be impossible to run on weak ardware. (or without proper compute shaders)
Epic has UE3 for all the weak systems, so they can lisense it for tablets and phones and it will be enough for a long time.

[Two4DaMoney]

Interesting choice of words. E3 will be interesting...hopefully.

[Bligmerk]

True but there are already been so many xbox next rumours, so there's a good chance its Wii U and xbox 3

You do realize those rumors started in the fall last year and they were insistent the next xbox was going to be shown at CES 2012 last month, to the point there was a ridiculous hardware configuration and specifications going along with the rumor to be more "believable" or should it be "gullible"?

It turns out there was an individual source for that "rumor". It was Charlie Demerjian, the same idiot behind all the PS3 launch rumors that later were proven wrong or apparently just made up. Why this doofus is still around and so many people still believe every moronic delusion he comes up with is beyond rational understanding.

To make things more ridiculous, the claim is the GPU is a variation of the ATI HD6670 which is a $79 PC card. It would be hilarious if this rumor proved out because it would mean the next xbox would be hopelessly obsolete by the time it goes into production later this year or next.

MS has said there is no next gen announcement in 2012. Why do so many still believe, in their heart-of-hearts, that is a lie and it will be shown at E3 2012. If the article below is read carefully, it shows the "next xbox" is being defined by Kraptaku, IGN, dumbshit Charlie, and a few other "anonymous" sources thrown in for good measure (always throw in the anonymous sources for a good soup). Also, what makes anybody not think the "secret console" Reins is referring to isn't one from Apple?

Rumor control: Xbox 720 chips in prototype production?
January 25, 2012

A flurry of news about the next-generation console coming from Sony and Microsoft has hit the internet in the last couple of days.

One of the most detailed rumors came on Jan. 18 from SemiAccurate, the geek blog run by Charlie Demerjian. He said that initial production of the Oban chip for the Xbox 720 has begun. Oban is the code name for the combination graphics and processor all-in-one chip that will power the next-generation game console from Microsoft, Charlie reported. Microsoft declined to comment.

IBM is reportedly the foundry, or contract manufacturer, for the Oban chip. But it’s not clear exactly who designed it, as Microsoft now has its own chip design capability these days and may have collaborated with IBM and ATI (Advanced Micro Devices) on it. Oban has an IBM-designed processor based on the PowerPC architecture, which is compatible with the Xbox 360. It also has an ATI GCN/HD7000/Southern Islands graphics chip from AMD.

There’s a small chance that Oban is x86 (Intel-compatible), but SemiAccurate said that was unlikely. I’m sure Microsoft would love to poke holes in this, but for now they can’t comment. AMD’s spun-out manufacturing business, now called Globalfoundries, is also making some of the first batch of prototypes and could serve as another foundry.

The initial batch of these 32-nanometer chips will go into development systems, which game developers use to make their launch titles for the new system. So even though production of chips has begun early, it’s quite possible a launch is set for 2013. Demerjian believes it will have embedded memory, just as the Xb0x 360 did, in a special package.

I know Charlie and he is pretty good about snagging rumors in private conversations with engineers who talk too much. But the “SemiAccurate” name is a good one and Charlie knows that he isn’t right all of the time. When I conveyed one of Charlie’s tips for official comment, a PR guy laughed. But Charlie isn’t always far off the mark, and he gets to plenty of stories before others in the press, including yours truly, do. Fudzilla, another geek blog, said it verified the rumor from SemiAccurate.

IGN, meanwhile, said its sources confirmed that mass production of the system’s GPU (it did not say it was part of a combo chip or multi-chip package) will begin by the end of 2012, but it will not be based on AMD’s 7,000 series. Rather, it will be based on the 6000 series, like the ATI Radeon HD 6670 (pictured in a PC add-on card at top). That chip has DirectX 11 support, multi-display output, 3D, and 1080 high-definition output. It is priced at about $79.99.

That chip’s graphics power is said to be six times that of the Xbox 360 and 20 percent greater than that of Nintendo’s upcoming Wii U console. That numbers seems particularly low. The Xbox 360 shipped in 2005 and graphics chip vendors generally follow the path of Moore’s Law, which holds that chip performance doubles every year or two. If it indeed doubles every year, a 2013 graphics chip should really be more like 256 times more powerful than the Xbox 360′s 2005 graphics chip. But that’s what IGN said. IGN’s rumor makes no sense to me, and Charlie said the same.

Kotaku, meanwhile, said that Microsoft’s next game console will be upgraded from DVDs to Blu-ray discs. The system will also reportedly block the playing of used games, a feature that is not present in today’s consoles. Game publishers have been furious with GameStop for selling a huge collection of used games, where the money generated does not go to the publisher. But the move might also anger consumers.

Kotaku also said that Microsoft will ship a new version of its Kinect motion-sensing system.The new Kinect will have an on-board processor for improving its performance and accuracy. The console will also have a smaller game controller.

Our analysis: We haven’t independently verified these rumors. But we can think about whether they are plausible. The name Xbox 720 itself is a made-up one, as shorthand for the successor to the Xbox 360. The rumor from SemiAccurate has the most detail, but it is also coming from a source with a mixed track record. Usually, the more detailed the rumor, the more accurate it is. Vague rumors, such as the Kotaku story, usually mean that the source is pretty low level. And when it comes to big decisions on game consoles, most of the information at this stage in the game is held by a small group of executives at the platform owner’s company.

We’ll pass along the rumors and our opinion of them as they arise, but be prepared to see plenty of wrong information before the real confirmation comes. One thing that is plausible is the timeline. If Microsoft plans to launch a console in early 2013, the game developers have to get the development kits right about now to get their launch titles under way.

As for the PlayStation 4, MCV reported that Sony would talk about it at the E3 2012 trade show in June. But Sony’s high-ranking executive Kaz Hirai quashed that rumor at the Consumer Electronics Show.

sauce

[baho]

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/pos...ics-mark-rein/
In my eyes all 3 consoles will be revealed at E3 2012! And yes, unreal engine 4 will shock all of us!

[TGO]

Why is some people hoping Sony will bail out next generation?

Fixed
And ya know why


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[itachi73378]

Epic to Show Unreal Engine 4 at GDC
Epic Games has revealed that it will show Unreal Engine 4 at next week's Game Developer's Conference.

According to Epic, a preview of its "next-generation game technology" will be shown to "select licensees, partners and prospective customers during the exhibition." The company notes that "space is very limited" and that the presentation will be viewable by appointment only.

This follows the Samaritan Unreal Engine tech demo that Epic revealed at last year's GDC.
Last year, Epic's Tim Sweeney told IGN that Unreal Engine 4 is "technology that won't see the light of day until probably around 2014," so the actual release of the engine could still be quite far away.

At the time, Sweeney described the tech as doing "some really cool things that just aren't practical today, but soon will be." He added that Unreal Engine 4 is "exploring areas of the technology nobody else is really yet contemplating because they're still a few years away from practicality."

GDC will take place in San Francisco from March 5th through 9th.

IGN
There will probably a leaked version of the video hopefully.

[Soldier 95B]

Nothing in a game until 2014 is sad though

[itachi73378]

But all I want to see is the visual jump. Last year they showed the Samaritan demo at GDC.

[MGSfan]

Nothing in a game until 2014 is sad though

Nah it's perfect, I don't want the next-gen until then anyways.

[Soldier 95B]

Nah it's perfect, I don't want the next-gen until then anyways.

I want it now though. You can wait for it though, as you are not required to buy it when it is released. Just wait until you are ready.


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[Inzane2050]

I want the next generation to wait until 2014 so they can be that much more powerful. Bcuz once the next generation is here, it will be another 8 years until we get another jump in visuals.

[itachi73378]

I want the next generation to wait until 2014 so they can be that much more powerful. Bcuz once the next generation is here, it will be another 8 years until we get another jump in visuals.

I don't see how you can't cant have jumps while in a generation expecially considering what happened this gen. Compare Resistance FOM and Uncharted Drake's Fortune with R3 and U3. Look at BF3 or Gears 3

Graphical advance, like technology relies on small incremental improvements. By the end of next gen the graphics will be way more awesome compare to its starting games.

[Inzane2050]

Battlefield 3 and Gears 3 are beautiful for quite a few reasons that incidentally will translate well into the next generation. But these games like BF3, Crysis 2, and Gears 3 have quite a few annoying artifacts that resulted from trying to achieve what they did on a technical level. Gears 3 motion blur has a ton of annoying artifacts as well as sub-par SSAO; Crysis 2 has terrible pop-ins, textures, and Temporal AA; etc. And this resulted from pushing the visuals too far.

These mid-console jumps come at the price of trying to balance out what effects get priority over the others and how much of these effects as a whole will get gimped so they can all fit properly on the console. More power = more freedom and less need to gimp things when they find a new technology to add to the mix.

And if you ask me, SSAO should have waited until the next generation as the artifacts for implementing on current consoles is still very poor. And I am tired of the choppy artifacts.

[itachi73378]

Battlefield 3 and Gears 3 are beautiful for quite a few reasons that incidentally will translate well into the next generation. But these games like BF3, Crysis 2, and Gears 3 have quite a few annoying artifacts that resulted from trying to achieve what they did on a technical level. Gears 3 motion blur has a ton of annoying artifacts as well as sub-par SSAO; Crysis 2 has terrible pop-ins, textures, and Temporal AA; etc.

These mid-console jumps come at the price of trying to balance out what effects get priority over the others and how much of these effects as a whole will get gimped so they can all fit properly on the console. More power = more freedom and less need to gimp things when they find a new technology to add to the mix.

And if you ask me, SSAO should have waited until the next generation as the artifacts for implementing on current consoles is still very poor.

That may be true, but to a regular consumer, if I see Uncharted 1 and then see Uncharted 3, right off the bat it looks like a generational jump. As a consumer I don't care if there are microscopic artifacts that I won't even notice. To me U3 has way better graphics on the same system.

[Inzane2050]

They aren't really microscopic artifacts tho. They are ones that are plainly visible. Castlevania LoS is another game with annoying artifacts are well. And the Temporal AA of Fable 3 alone can ruin your eyesight as it is really that bad, etc.

[Morganator]

Let's just hope that UE4 doesn't give that shiny charcoal burnt texture look from baking textures that UE3 gave. The textures looked so bad in most games that it actually looked as if someone was setting fire to various materials and taking snapshots to put in the games. Overall though, this generation has not been as great as I was led to believe it would by all three console makers. Truly though. It's been one false advertising stunt after another; especially with Sony. Microsoft and Nintendo have been straight up lazy about their consoles and pushing the envelope. Let's hope that the next generation will at least have fewer false advertising stunts and fewer lies from the console manufacturers.

[itachi73378]

smh....I will never understand what people were expecting this gen.
This has been and still is an amazing generation of gaming. Atleast that is what I think. Never have I seen so many AAA releasing every month.