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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelios View Post
    So in other words, you acknowledge and respect people who pretend to do something for the cause, and then not really do anything for the cause?

    Kinda strange.
    Umm no I meant when I see people sit back and criticize others it really makes me wonder how someone can get up in the morning and still keep fighting for a cause when he know that a majority of the public will sit on their lazy bums making pointless and pessimistic comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex nihilo7 View Post
    It's a violation of human rights. Shouldn't the United Nations supposed to do something about it?
    If you even invest any faith in that paper tiger. Any human rights campaign without the u.s. fails because noone has the logistics or the money to do it but us. Well I got news for ya, we don't have the money or political will right now.

    @rapture: they pretty much just lobbyied the congress to get involved, and quite honestly it come a off as "white mans burden" pot colonialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi73378 View Post
    Umm no I meant when I see people sit back and criticize others it really makes me wonder how someone can get up in the morning and still keep fighting for a cause when he know that a majority of the public will sit on their lazy bums making pointless and pessimistic comments.
    It's funny, I wonder why people bother making stupid videos about global situations, or online petitions and all that crap, rather than actually doing something about it. If you cared so much, you wouldn't be talking about it on a forum and wasting your energy arguing with me, you'd be out there making a difference. You know, it goes with that very popular phrase, Actions speak louder than words (or videos for that matter).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelios View Post
    It's funny, I wonder why people bother making stupid videos about global situations, or online petitions and all that crap, rather than actually doing something about it. If you cared so much, you wouldn't be talking about it on a forum and wasting your energy arguing with me, you'd be out there making a difference. You know, it goes with that very popular phrase, Actions speak louder than words (or videos for that matter).
    Yes I know and that is the point of my earlier post. I can NEVER go out and do what some people do. I'm all talk and THAT IS EXACTLY why I respect those people who actually go out of their way to achieve something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by btbam View Post
    If you even invest any faith in that paper tiger. Any human rights campaign without the u.s. fails because noone has the logistics or the money to do it but us. Well I got news for ya, we don't have the money or political will right now.

    @rapture: they pretty much just lobbyied the congress to get involved, and quite honestly it come a off as "white mans burden" pot colonialism.
    lol, yeah I was implying the US is a huge driving force for anything to get done regarding the UN, and if the UN should do something, then that means the US should do something. In regards to "White mans burden", we are talking about child slavery and murder here.

    Kind of off-topic, there are about 27 million slaves in the world today, with about a million people trafficked in the US alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by btbam View Post
    @rapture: they pretty much just lobbyied the congress to get involved, and quite honestly it come a off as "white mans burden" pot colonialism.
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    Invisible Children actually does stuff at least: http://www.invisiblechildren.com.s3-.../programs.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi73378 View Post
    Yes I know and that is the point of my earlier post. I can NEVER go out and do what some people do. I'm all talk and THAT IS EXACTLY why I respect those people who actually go out of their way to achieve something.
    Pretty much like they're doing. Don't take it as a personal attack on you, but realize that they're not taking it to the streets either. All they did was make a video, and somehow, they're making a difference? It's reminiscent of Bradley Manning's treatment, the financial crisis, etc. Nothing is being done other than publicizing it, and that doesn't really achieve anything either. People will forget in a few days about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelios View Post
    Pretty much like they're doing. Don't take it as a personal attack on you, but realize that they're not taking it to the streets either. All they did was make a video, and somehow, they're making a difference? It's reminiscent of Bradley Manning's treatment, the financial crisis, etc. Nothing is being done other than publicizing it, and that doesn't really achieve anything either. People will forget in a few days about it.
    http://www.invisiblechildren.com.s3-.../programs.html

    No they actually have programs set up that impact Ugandans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelios View Post
    Pretty much like they're doing. Don't take it as a personal attack on you, but realize that they're not taking it to the streets either. All they did was make a video, and somehow, they're making a difference? It's reminiscent of Bradley Manning's treatment, the financial crisis, etc. Nothing is being done other than publicizing it, and that doesn't really achieve anything either. People will forget in a few days about it.
    Did you watch the video? They are basically covering every major city and every street with KONY's name on 29 April. My university already has a group ready to do it in my town.

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    I don't think my point came across clear. I think its because of my training in history but when I examine information I look at the things that aren't there but should be. Not once did the video show africams solving Africa's problems. They did show, however helpless children (both in the age sense and metaphorical sense) wallowing in desparity before the white man showed up and solved it for them. Its a common misconception that Africa is helpless. This video only strengthens this myth. Just post colonialism b.s.

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    I think people need to look at a tumblr profile or what ever they are called, it's visiblechildren or something google it you lazy buggers.

    The cause is right and I'm fine with that, but this company is not all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex nihilo7 View Post
    http://www.invisiblechildren.com.s3-.../programs.html

    No they actually have programs set up that impact Ugandans.
    By "they" it wasn't in reference to Invisible Children. To be honest I don't know much about them at all, although I find it difficult to take what that site says as dogma because many organizations are shady as $#@! to begin with. Just take a look at the Red Cross or Unicef, etc.

    By "they" I meant the populace as a collective. Where nobody is doing anything other than posting videos or talking about it on facebook.

    Quote Originally Posted by itachi73378 View Post
    Did you watch the video? They are basically covering every major city and every street with KONY's name on 29 April. My university already has a group ready to do it in my town.
    We'll see. I pass through 4 major collegetowns and cities on my commute every day, two of them having a majority African population. I can pretty much guarantee I won't see anything at all on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast of Bourbon View Post
    free up the bandwith for porn
    Classy.


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    America has its own problems to deal with than acting as the worlds ******* superman. I really dont see why the Ugandan? armed forces cant put this on their top priority and get the job done without all this bs.

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    Just going to drop this here...

    http://thedailywh.at/2012/03/07/on-k...f=newpromocopy

    On Kony 2012: I honestly wanted to stay as far away as possible from KONY 2012, the latest fauxtivist fad sweeping the web (remember “change your Facebook profile pic to stop child abuse”?), but you clearly won’t stop sending me that damn video until I say something about it, so here goes:

    Stop sending me that video.

    The organization behind Kony 2012 — Invisible Children Inc. — is an extremely shady nonprofit that has been called ”misleading,” “naive,” and “dangerous” by a Yale political science professor, and has been accused by Foreign Affairs of “manipulat[ing] facts for strategic purposes.” They have also been criticized by the Better Business Bureau for refusing to provide information necessary to determine if IC meets the Bureau’s standards.

    Additionally, IC has a low two-star rating in accountability from Charity Navigator because they won’t let their financials be independently audited. That’s not a good thing. In fact, it’s a very bad thing, and should make you immediately pause and reflect on where the money you’re sending them is going.

    By IC’s own admission, only 31% of all the funds they receive go toward actually helping anyone [pdf]. The rest go to line the pockets of the three people in charge of the organization, to pay for their travel expenses (over $1 million in the last year alone) and to fund their filmmaking business (also over a million) — which is quite an effective way to make more money, as clearly illustrated by the fact that so many can’t seem to stop forwarding their well-engineered emotional blackmail to everyone they’ve ever known.

    And as far as what they do with that money:

    The group is in favour of direct military intervention, and their money supports the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces. Here’s a photo of the founders of Invisible Children posing with weapons and personnel of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army. Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting, but Invisible Children defends them, arguing that the Ugandan army is “better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries”, although Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission. These books each refer to the rape and sexual assault that are perennial issues with the UPDF, the military group Invisible Children is defending.

    Let’s not get our lines crossed: The Lord’s Resistance Army is bad news. And Joseph Kony is a very bad man, and needs to be stopped. But propping up Uganda’s decades-old dictatorship and its military arm, which has been accused by the UN of committing unspeakable atrocities and itself facilitated the recruitment of child soldiers, is not the way to go about it.

    The United States is already plenty involved in helping rout Kony and his band of psycho sycophants. Kony is on the run, having been pushed out of Uganda, and it’s likely he will soon be caught, if he isn’t already dead. But killing Kony won’t fix anything, just as killing Osama bin Laden didn’t end terrorism. The LRA might collapse, but, as Foreign Affairs points out, it is “a relatively small player in all of this — as much a symptom as a cause of the endemic violence.”

    Myopically placing the blame for all of central Africa’s woes on Kony — even as a starting point — will only imperil many more people than are already in danger.

    Sending money to a nonprofit that wants to muck things up by dousing the flames with fuel is not helping. Want to help? Really want to help? Send your money to nonprofits that are putting more than 31% toward rebuilding the region’s medical and educational infrastructure, so that former child soldiers have something worth coming home to.

    Here are just a few of those charities. They all have a sparkling four-star rating from Charity Navigator, and, more importantly, no interest in airdropping American troops armed to the teeth into the middle of a multi-nation tribal war to help one madman catch another.

    The bottom line is, research your causes thoroughly. Don’t just forward a random video to a stranger because a mass murderer makes a five-year-old “sad.” Learn a little bit about the complexities of the region’s ongoing strife before advocating for direct military intervention.

    There is no black and white in the world. And going about solving important problems like there is just serves to make all those equally troubling shades of gray invisible.
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    notice how every country that's in the $#@!ter is an old british empire colony? take it back. and why isn't anyone talking about Burma, that place is 10 times worse. can't even get in there


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    that guy who made this didn't he recently get arrested for streaking and masturbating in public?

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    LOL yeah the same guy. I saw that a few days ago lol. Arrested for spanking it in public...Classy!

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    LOL yeah the same guy. I saw that a few days ago lol. Arrested for spanking it in public...Classy!
    lol that's gonna hurt his campaign

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    Invisible Children? More like Masturbating in front of Children LOLO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zzKurozz View Post
    lol that's gonna hurt his campaign
    he's a fake piece of plastic...lol in the movie he's the activist dad..showing photos of "the bad man" to his son and getting all sentimental and $#@!. in his head he would have been all
    "$#@! yeah i nailed that $#@!. all the girls gonna swoon over my badass self, all fatherly with my son, yet taking it to kony too. all the $#@!es will wanna be with me, all the guys will wanna be me".
    and then he goes an gets pissed, takes his lil kony out and gives it a good rubbing...thats it buddy, game over. there is no going back, your ass is gonna be memed to $#@!. lol


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