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    Epic: Consoles must be 'bleeding edge' in next-generation



    Epic believes that the next round of home consoles will have to be "bleeding edge" if the likes of Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo want to stay relevant in the video game market. Speaking to CGV, Epic VP Mark Rein noted that the publisher is "pushing" console makers to use the best possible hardware. "Because if they don't," said Rein, "Apple will go right past them."

    He added that console gaming is about console makers "delivering something that's way out past the bleeding edge" and making their investment back with software royalties. If console makers don't opt for the latest and greatest tech, he said, there's a chance that consumers "won't want to take the leap" to future consoles.

    In Rein's view, it's Epic's job to push the console makers with advanced technology demos like the "Samaritan" video shown at GDC 2011 (above). Incidentally, Rein isn't worried that console makers will under-deliver with the next generation, believing that they will instead "blow us all away." With Unreal Engine 4 aimed at next-generation consoles, and assuming UE4 is even more impressive than the UE3-powered Samaritan demo, we certainly hope he's right.
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    This will undoubtedly spring comparison debate... so moved to MP section.

    Also, it isn't really PS3 news, or Sony for that matter.. it is industry wide news.

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    My bad. Thanks for moving it, Cuguy.

    Personally, I don't know what Apple has to do with home consoles. :/

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    Sadly with the current economy and people looking at the price more than content( hardware, what it is capable of) i have a feeling that the next gen consoles from SONY and MS wont be as powerful as we think or want them to be.

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    They'll be cheaper for sure . . . right?

    Imagine what would happen if Apple decided to jump into console making. Would they make a solid console? Hmmm . . .

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    Next-gen gaming shouldn't end with good graphics though. I'm always blown away when I see developers focus on better physics and animation. With the PlayStation 3, we were introduced to stuff like real-time track deformation in MotorStorm. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves showed us that Nathan Drake could have a ridiculously-high amount of character animations and you wouldn't even know it while playing the game. It makes me wonder what kind of games we'll end up playing on next-gen consoles.

    They'll be cheaper for sure . . . right?

    Imagine what would happen if Apple decided to jump into console making. Would they make a solid console? Hmmm . . .
    I don't know.

    When has Apple ever been known to have reasonably-priced products?
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    epic and Crytek wants 8gigs in the next consoles. Seriously, thats way too much. they want consoles to cost 1000 out the gates.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksite View Post
    I don't know.

    When has Apple ever been known to have reasonably-priced products?
    I wasn't really talking about the price, but more about the hardware. You're right, it would be pretty high priced if they created a gaming console.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    epic and Crytek wants 8gigs in the next consoles. Seriously, thats way too much. they want consoles to cost 1000 out the gates.
    ps2 to ps3 made a similar jump.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Naxi View Post
    ps2 to ps3 made a similar jump.
    Interesting. I just don't want another $600 consoles. I'll be waiting for atleast 2 years if they do that crap again. Mostly due to the heating issues it will likely have.




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    8gig would be awesome but what would the price then be?!
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    Bleeding edge isn't gonna happen. One thing we learned this gen is reasonably priced is king. I wouldn't mind paying 600 if the tech is awesome but i don't think the masses will

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    Do people think a $299 launch is possible for the next PlayStation (I guess the entry model PS4)? That's what the PS1 and PS2 launched at, right?

    If they could manage that whilst cramming as much tech in their as possible and overhyping a particular feature of the console along the way, as well as bring the games (which Sony always does). I'm sure the next generation will be rather fruitful for them

    From bringing out the PS3 which was a very 'open' console, you could change your HDDs, use any BT headsets, etc. Now looking at the PSV it's completely different, it's propietery everything. I'd imagine they'll do that with their next home console. The profit margins are so high on accessories and attachments that they'll try and keep the entry cost as low as possible and hit people with accessories and 'upgrades'

    That's how they did things on the earlier home consoles, and that's how Microsoft did it this generation. Entry price is key, keep that **** down

    Quote Originally Posted by mooninites View Post
    Bleeding edge isn't gonna happen. One thing we learned this gen is reasonably priced is king. I wouldn't mind paying 600 if the tech is awesome but i don't think the masses will
    Pretty much what I'm sayin' dude. Beat me to it! Much more eloquently too

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    The problem with this is that the development time of a console is so long that by the time it's released, it's a little behind the times. The Cell chip was an exception because it was designed from the ground up, but no one can afford to custom design a new chip every gen.

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    This is an example of what Apple is capable of in the future.

    http://www.apple.com/appletv/airplay/

    http://www.gamezebo.com/news/2011/10...layer-campaign

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Wolf View Post
    They'll be cheaper for sure . . . right?

    Imagine what would happen if Apple decided to jump into console making. Would they make a solid console? Hmmm . . .
    Apple would be devoured if they even looked a the console market the wrong way. Their business model does not run parallel with a successful attempt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Two4DaMoney View Post
    epic and Crytek wants 8gigs in the next consoles. Seriously, thats way too much. they want consoles to cost 1000 out the gates.
    An abundance of RAM is one of the cheapest ways to raise the capabilities of a system. Even now 8GB of RAM is dirt cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    Apple would be devoured if they even looked a tthe console market the wrong way. Their business model does no run parrel with a succesful attempt.
    I'm not saying the Apple product is bad or anything but there are plenty of people who buy it just because it's Apple. I can see a **** load of people buying it in the beginning at least.

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    They can't survive in the console market because those willing to shell out the cash would be too wise to do so.

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    If they shell out the cash to go from an iphone 4 to an iphone 4s or ipad > ipad 2 > ipad 3 then I'm sure plenty will dish out the cash. Those aren't bad products but people aren't that wise, or at least they're very dedicated to a brand.

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    Do you not realize the importance of market value? An Apple console would not survive because there's little buying base. Unless they greatly conform their strategy, their system will shrivel and die a very painful death- that's not even considering the brand competition they have to work against.

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    Home consoles and portable devices are two completely different markets targeting different audiences.. I do however encourage powerful hardware for the next generation. It might hurt at first but a lot of us want to see the next leap already.







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    I agree with you that unless marketing, hardware, software etc etc is perfect it will die. Never said it would survive. I was only saying that there are plenty of people who would buy it solely on the brand name. Probably not enough to survive very long but nonetheless they will buy it.

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    "Bleeding edge", we wish. Specially with the Wii setting the standards. lmao
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    I'd buy a new console regardless of who it was from as long as it was priced accordingly (already putting Apple under strain) and had decent specs.

    I'd welcome any other companies that want to enter the gaming market. Go on Panisonic and Sega, have another go!

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