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    NightSky Dev: Kojima is Terrible At Making Games

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...t-Making-Games


    Nicalis founder, Tyrone Rodriguez, talks about Hideo Kojima and the "indie" label. It turns out he doesn't particularly care for either of them.
    Founded by former IGN editor, Tyrone Rodriguez, Nicalis is a small developer known mostly for its ports of popular indie games, Cave Story and VVVVVV. The company also developed and published NightSky, a charming physics-based puzzle/platformer with an attractive aesthetic. Oh, and it has what is pretty much the coolest website I've ever seen.
    During an interview with IndieGames.com, Rodriguez was asked if the recent criticism leveled at modern Japanese games by entirely likable and not-smug-at-all indie developers, Jonathan Blow and Phil Fish - who I shall now collectively refer to as BlowFish, witty and original wordsmith that I am - was justified. Rodriguez couldn't name any Japanese indie games, save Cave Story, that weren't bowel-shatteringly awful, but he did name drop a few mainstream titles; Demon's Souls, Street Fighter IV and The World Ends with you, to name a few. Then the name "Konami" came up, and all of a sudden Rodriguez was on the war path.
    The following was written by IndieGames editor, John Polson:
    "And then I mentioned Konami. "Konami doesn't make good stuff," he argued. He says in particular that Metal Gear Solid developer Hideo Kojima should stop making games and start making bad movies (ironically, Kojima just might). "He's terrible at making games. Metal Gear is good in spite of him. I haven't enjoyed a game of his since maybe the original Metal Gear Solid, maybe." He feels the recent ones are tedious, riddled with bad writing, bad story-telling, and bad control."
    Having exposed Konami and Kojima to the full extent of his fury, Rodriguez turned his attention to indie game developers.
    "The main thing I want to see from indie developers is to stop calling themselves indie developers," he said. "You're either a game developer or you're not. Indie has nothing to do with it. It's like this cool buzzword now. Do you make games? Okay, then you're a game developer."

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    Well, Metal Gear Solid 4 did have a lot of repetitive dialogue and more cutscenes than what I felt was necessary for a video game. But I don't agree with his criticism on the tedious gameplay or bad controls. Apart from giving you the option to go in guns blazing, remapping some buttons, and changing the camera, the series really hasn't strayed too far from the original.

    I really want Hideo Kojima to work on a new IP though.
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    What an idiot,When he makes a series better than MGS he can talk all he wants,not even then.I never even heard of this nightsky,this is a guy with no history at all !!

    Founded by former IGN editor, Tyrone Rodriguez
    Not surprising,IGN is filled with jackasses.
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    I stopped reading after the header. I'm countering ignorance with ignorance and it works out just fine..oh and former IGN? Can't say I'm surprised now.


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    Lol..this fool is such a joke

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    Now I regret buying Cave Story+ and supporting such a moron.

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    lol man this dude is a thirsty one

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    Konami has made some of the best games of all time. and that's starting from the 80's for $#@!'s sake. now i have to admit, the MGS gameplay isn't very good....at all. i'm still a big fan though


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    The developer of NightSky has no grounds to criticize another person's work. That game is an insult to game design. It's utterly terrible and completely forgettable all wrapped into one. It's a physics cliche that assumes that simulation is automatically interesting or entertaining. It's not, it's mostly boring and pointless.

    Seriously, he ported 2 great games, congrats, you know how to copy games and translate other people's codes. And the one game he made is imo terrible, and he wants to complain about Kojima?

    Let's just assume that this guy is a great game developer like Jenova Chen and Jonathan Blow, his criticism of Kojima's games are not even game related. It's about the lore, which is just a narrative on top of the actual game mechanics, which I'm willing to bet he doesn't even understand.

    And the controls are fine, controls exist to both empower the player and to restrict the player, the dynamic ratio of both elements is what make games great (think Journey where the player can jump/fly but is restricted by the length of the scarf to the extent that the player is no longer able to float at all). So "bad control" only applies to games where the control doesn't serve the game and what the game is about, but in MGS's case, the controls did exactly serve their purpose of (to put it in the most simplest and superficial term) "stealth action."

    Why am I even trying to rationalize his argument, he made NightSky, SERIOUSLY?

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    My guess is we're seeing the new up-&-coming game developers who have been raised by the internet and its "the more snarky and negative you are, the cooler and hipper you are" attitude. Shame some of these jokers don't seem to recognize quality games when they see them, considering they'll be expecting us to play what they make in coming years.


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    Jealous much? Kojima is the best in the world at what he does.


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    Meh. MGS is stupid as $#@!, but come on, ZOE is awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelios View Post
    Meh. MGS is stupid as $#@!, but come on, ZOE is awesome.
    It's not for everyone.But it sure isn't stupid as $#@!.I guess you are just mindless shooting type of a guy.

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    What the hell is NightSky?

    ..yea that answers everything for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdou23 View Post
    It's not for everyone.But it sure isn't stupid as $#@!.I guess you are just mindless shooting type of a guy.
    A little presumptuous, are you? MGS was stupid. 1 and 3 were the good ones. 2 and 4 were absolute trash games.
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    4 was tits, the nostalgia in that one alone was worth the money, but fighting hand to hand sucks balls, and they give you way too much equipment that you would never use. and don't get me sarted on how retarded Raiden was yet again lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelios View Post
    A little presumptuous, are you? MGS was stupid. 1 and 3 were the good ones. 2 and 4 were absolute trash games.
    So before, the whole series was stupid as $#@!,now it's only 2 & 4.interesting..

    Quote Originally Posted by Funeralfog View Post
    4 was tits, the nostalgia in that one alone was worth the money,
    He wouldn't understand,judging by his age,when MGS 1 came out he was like 6 years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelios View Post
    Meh. MGS is stupid as $#@!, but come on, ZOE is awesome.
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    Oh no, he doesn't like the Metal Gear Solid series! Sound the alarms, this is horrible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdou23 View Post
    So before, the whole series was stupid as $#@!,now it's only 2 & 4.interesting..


    He wouldn't understand,judging by his age,when MGS 1 came out he was like 6 years old.
    ah $#@! lol, that explains EVERYTHING. damn Yu ghi o (spelling?) fans


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    Why is this post worthy information, just another random nobody trying to drum up un-deserved support by bad mouthing a popular figure

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    i think Kojima is the only one in japan left making games that people buy, so this new guy should take a lesson from manson, take a few ribs out and put his own d*ck in his mouth the very second he makes a game somebodys heard of


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    MGS has been milked a bit too much at this point though, he is more than capable of making a decent new IP.

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    clearly rodriguez is piss poor at creating controversy...and until he can show us something good from his own studio he should shut his fat $#@!in hole in his fat $#@!in face...

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