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    Rumor leaked pre-final specs for Xbox Durango dev kits. At E3

    http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/96292.html
    Most of this may be true not sure about the GPU dual 8970.

    Leam motion....That is what i allways wanted from Kinect - finger gestures
    Инсайдер: What I have put here is 99% the real cpu/eapu specs.. This is Microsoft* goal. It is also what is available in the dev kits that are at E3.. If Microsoft show the Durango/720/8/loop this is what is behind these specs.. The final 2 gpu design final spec is not 100% known out of Microsoft rnd there target is HD8970 tech.* The cpu pic is the real durango cpu/eapu* but now that specs are leaking out over the next 4 days. It shows you the future.*




    Durango cpu specs

    SOI -28nm** 22nm by 2014

    3.8ghz** -* 4.2ghz Turbo-core mode

    4 SMT every core

    1024 KiB L2 per core

    8 VMX128 cores

    120MiB EDRAM

    There is 2 cores in every core. they are not stacked cores.*

    Durango cpu is an ultra enhanced apu,

    DX11.1- 12.1 Upgradeable core logic

    "BASIC" Durango cpu can support 12- 32/64 bit 1080p Render Targets "back buffer"* 10/64 bits color and aa on all back buffers.* 2k* resolution* and beyond. Cpu/apu and gpu/s can access the EDRAM on the fly. A massive amount of system Ram is also available "more then orbis" (note: suddenly PS4 could have less ram then Durango)

    As for Kinect 2 in regards to leap and laugh..* lets just say full 3D and you are an object *
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/96292.html
    Most of this may be true not sure about the GPU dual 8970.
    IF true - and I cannot stress the "IF" enough - the next XBox will be a beast.

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    AMD Radeon HD 8970?

    Well, I'm not sure if it'll be affordable but it's better than the rumored 6670.

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    I have a feeling that Sony and Microsoft want to make their new consoles as powerful as possible to make them last for ages, much like they're doing now with PS3 and 360.
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    A dual 8970 debunks this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorzilla View Post
    I have a feeling that Sony and Microsoft want to make their new consoles as powerful as possible to make them last for ages, much like they're doing now with PS3 and 360.
    Yep, as I predicted, generations will get longer and longer from now on.
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    I want Naughty Dog to explore new game genres, not regurgitate cinematic corridor shooters for another generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    Yep, as I predicted, generations will get longer and longer from now on.
    And you know what? I truly don't mind! As long as everyone keeps putting amazing games, I'm as happy as I can be. Hell, if games like The Last of Us, Halo, The Witcher and Skyrim are possible with today's hardware, imagine the posibilities of tomorrow. Compare Resistance to Resistance 3 for example and they look like they were launched in different generations!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    A dual 8970 debunks this.
    The guy didn't say there would be dual 8970 in the dev kits. Ms are shooting for that type of GPU performance.

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    Looking very plausible although a bit on the "too good to be true" side
    And yeah the article says that the two GPUs will reach a single 8970 performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/96292.html
    Most of this may be true not sure about the GPU dual 8970.

    The Radeon 8970?.. Yeah, this article is as fake as they can get. Don't put any trust in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayu View Post
    The Radeon 8970?.. Yeah, this article is as fake as they can get. Don't put any trust in it.
    Don't be so quick to dismiss it, remembers the PS3 had a powerful GPU when it was announced, better just was released before it hit retail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    Don't be so quick to dismiss it, remembers the PS3 had a powerful GPU when it was announced, better just was released before it hit retail.

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    The PS3 and Xbox GPU were both the equivalent of a Geforce 7600GT (less half the power of the 7800GTX), and the Radeon HD8970 is dual GPU of AMD's flagship chip to be released in 2013. It's not possible for an HD8970 to be in a next gen console unless the next generation consoles release in late 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayu View Post
    The PS3 and Xbox GPU were both the equivalent of a Geforce 7600GT (less half the power of the 7800GTX), and the Radeon HD8970 is dual GPU of AMD's flagship chip to be released in 2013. It's not possible for an HD8970 to be in a next gen console unless the next generation consoles release in late 2016.
    They are 'aiming' for 8970 level performance not actually putting in the card!
    and also I don't see how its "impossible".

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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi73378 View Post
    They are 'aiming' for 8970 level performance not actually putting in the card!
    and also I don't see how its "impossible".
    I never said they were putting in the actual HD8790. All I said was that it's not possible for a 2013/2014 consoles to have the power equal to that of an HD8790. It's the truth. I already explained why it's not possible, but meh, whatever. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayu View Post
    I never said they were putting in the actual HD8790. All I said was that it's not possible for a 2013/2014 consoles to have the power equal to that of an HD8790. It's the truth. I already explained why it's not possible, but meh, whatever. :/
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    I still don't understand how it's impossible. :/
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    I think for me, more powerful consoles and longer console cycles is acceptable and preferable but only if certain conditions are met. Consoles are too closed off and forcing people to adhere to a finite set of options is pretty demeaning. There is some serious talent in the real world and refusing to allow the consumer to access the complete hardware setup for homebrew gaming, app creation and other user-created content is wrong in my honest opinion. It stifles competition which is sorely needed in this day and age. Honestly? I want consoles that are completely open so that we consumers get a better product experience.

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    If this were true I can't even imagine Sony's next gen. After they just said they don't plan on being first or the cheapest, their only objective is making it the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayu View Post
    The PS3 and Xbox GPU were both the equivalent of a Geforce 7600GT (less half the power of the 7800GTX), and the Radeon HD8970 is dual GPU of AMD's flagship chip to be released in 2013. It's not possible for an HD8970 to be in a next gen console unless the next generation consoles release in late 2016.
    Who lead the way with Unified Shader tech?
    Microsft had tech from AMD/ATI that they themselves didnt implement for sometime after the console was launched.

    Anything is posisble.
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    Yeah no way these consoles would have a 8970. Mainly because they tend to rely on their processors and not GPUs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Who lead the way with Unified Shader tech?
    Microsft had tech from AMD/ATI that they themselves didnt implement for sometime after the console was launched.

    Anything is posisble.
    Xbox having the Unified Shader architecture doesn't actually have anything to do with the power of the GPU. It's impossible for a GPU like the HD8970 to fit into a 2013/2014 console and not explode on you. Just like how it was impossible for the Xbox 360 to house a 7950GX2 rather than the sub-7600GT is got stuck with. It's not possible. Trust me.

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    If I'm looking at the picture of the CPU die correctly, then it's a quad-core chip.

    Probably a POWER7 derivative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gangsta_795 View Post
    Yeah no way these consoles would have a 8970. Mainly because they tend to rely on their processors and not GPUs.
    Only the PS3 did...and it wasn't the best idea.

    Consoles should rely on their GPUs to process graphics.

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    360 was relatively low risk compared to the PS3 when they both launched.
    the PS3 was full to the eyeballs with new tech.

    Microsoft seem to want to outdo this and flat out overkill Sony.
    if these specs are similar to actual production models then sony can't go the new tech route and can only play on equal ground
    its kinda sad in a way.
    we'll end up with mini PC's, not consoles.

    its all rumors but hopefully Sony manage something innovative, as Microsoft's console is turning out to be a beast
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    Quote Originally Posted by gangsta_795 View Post
    Yeah no way these consoles would have a 8970. Mainly because they tend to rely on their processors and not GPUs.
    I don't agree with that. Like Sufi said, only ps3 placed more importance on the CPU.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayu View Post
    Xbox having the Unified Shader architecture doesn't actually have anything to do with the power of the GPU. It's impossible for a GPU like the HD8970 to fit into a 2013/2014 console and not explode on you. Just like how it was impossible for the Xbox 360 to house a 7950GX2 rather than the sub-7600GT is got stuck with. It's not possible. Trust me.
    Umm..why? Because of power consumption and heat?
    Console gpu versions are similar to the mobile version of desktop GPUs and I think yesterday I read about gtx680M. So it only took a month for the mobile version to come out compared to the desktop counter part. Why would a 8000 series mobile equivalent not be compatible for consoles in late 2013-14?
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