Do you believe in Ghosts?

[Kuro]

I've had a couple of experiences before mainly when i was younger I would always hear a piano playing in the basement at night and I saw an apparition of an old lady sitting on our couch across the room when I went to go get a drink at night. Haven't seen anything weird anymore though.

[DreDayDetox]

Do farts count? Given that they're invisible and deadly.

[-Kwesnoth-]

Nope. Never believed in ghosts.

But I do think farts should count.

[Kuro]

Do farts count? Given that they're invisible and deadly.

Lmao..good point.

[mickice]

This is how it is:
We have this universe, no one truly knows how was it created or why its here. It would be easier to accept nothingness than all the intricacy we see. In this universe things are given a thing called a life, a conscience, free will. How they are magically created is a mystery also.

It might be a shallow experience, but I am here and now in this mess and when I die that will be it, nothingness.
I think my calling is to commit one truly noble act before I go.

[Sir_Scud]

No. There is no reason to believe in them and the concept is just silly. The tv shows about hunting ghosts are great for a laugh and the sheer stupidity of their tests and all.

[Jaeger]

No. There is no reason to believe in them...

What an utterly moronic statement to make. Some people believe in ghosts and spirits so they can assure themselves that loved ones who have died are not completely gone. Are you really going to be a dick and completely diminish everybody's belief in the afterlife just because YOU don't believe in it?

[BoyBettaKnow]

No. For I am not mental.

What an utterly moronic statement to make. Some people believe in ghosts and spirits so they can assure themselves that loved ones who have died are not completely gone. Are you really going to be a dick and completely diminish everybody's belief in the afterlife just because YOU don't believe in it?

Then those that choose to believe that are only fooling themselves. I agree with Scud, there is zero point or gain in believing that lost spirits are walking the earth.

We live, we die, we decompose into some compost - we don't leave the grave and turn into little orbs of light that they always see on those ghost 'hunting' shows.

Same goes for mediums - they are cunts of the highest order. Not only the lie about being able to speak to the dead they give loved ones false hope



BBK. Tapatalking.

[Valefor]

What an utterly moronic statement to make. Some people believe in ghosts and spirits so they can assure themselves that loved ones who have died are not completely gone. Are you really going to be a dick and completely diminish everybody's belief in the afterlife just because YOU don't believe in it?

You call the poster moronic, yet you then say people believe simply because they need a security blanket. Desires for something to be true do not make it so. The poster is quite right to say there is no reason to believe in them, because there is insufficient evidence to support the claim that they exist. And no, anecdotal evidence is not sufficient.

[Jaeger]

You call him moronic, yet you then say people believe simply because they need a security blanket. Desires for something to be true do not make it so. The poster is quite right to say there is no reason to believe in them, because there is insufficient evidence to support the claim that they exist. And no, anecdotal evidence is not sufficient.

You've clearly never lost someone you truly loved.

[Valefor]

You've clearly never lost someone you truly loved.

My wishes to see my past losses have no bearing on truth, unfortunately.

[Jaeger]

My wishes to see my past losses have no bearing on truth, unfortunately.

You and I must be on entirely different levels. I guess becoming a parent has given me a completely new sense of meaning to the term 'loved ones' and the desire to retain their memory, no matter how insane it may seem to others.

[Valefor]

You and I must be on entirely different levels. I guess becoming a parent has given me a completely new sense of meaning to the term 'loved ones' and the desire to retain their memory, no matter how insane it may seem to others.

It is unwise to imply other people have never lost loved ones. But, you can wish it all you like, it doesn't make it true.

[Jaeger]

I never implied you hadn't lost loved ones, I was implying that you and I may have different definitions of the term.

[Sir_Scud]

Jaeger, I realize my opinion may come off strong, but it's how I feel. Now, I don't go around telling people what to believe or not to believe, because that's their choice. I merely came in the thread to give my 2 cents. My post was actually pretty vague and made no mention of what I think of the afterlife and other things. I simply see no reason to believe in the concept of a ghost that roams around this planet.

Now I have lost someone I truly love, and it was hard. However, I didn't take comfort in thinking they were somewhere else looking down at me. It took me a long time to realize they are dead and still affects me today. But I remember them as the person they lived through my memory. I accepted the fact that person is completely gone.

[mickice]

There is no cohesive evidence of what lies beyond. From my experience with death I can tell you its dark and lifeless.

[Valefor]

I never implied you hadn't lost loved ones, I was implying that you and I may have different definitions of the term.

It doesn't take much to see you were hinting at how your loved ones mean more to you than mine meant to me. You should be careful with what you presume about others.

[Wrath]

Man, it's threads like these where I despise that general bias towards science that is exhibited by the majority of posters here. You people seem to only believe in what's been written on paper by others in the past, yet none of you have any explanation on how large the universe is, where it ends, what comes after it, etc.

Hence, only because ghosts do not scientifically exist doesn't mean they don't exist at all.

Have some faith people.

[Valefor]

Man, it's threads like these where I despise that general bias towards science of the majority of posters here. You people seem to only believe in what's been written on paper by others in the past, yet none of you have any explanation on how large the universe is, where it ends, what comes after it, etc.

Hence, only because ghosts do not scientifically exist doesn't mean they don't exist at all.

A gap in knowledge is just that, a gap. We don't need to fill it with stories and say they are true just because we don't yet know all the answers.

[Wrath]

A gap in knowledge is just that, a gap. We don't need to fill it with stories and say they are true just because we don't yet know all the answers.

Did you ever think about the psychological effects those 'stories' might have? It comforts people and since no one can prove or disprove certain belief people seem to hold on to them.

Why would you intentionally want to put yourself down?

[Valefor]

Did you ever think about the psychological effects those 'stories' might have? It comforts people and since no one can prove or disprove certain believes people seem to hold on to them.

Yes, it may comfort people. But comfort does not mean truth, and we are talking about the truth of the claim. If I had a serious illness and was going to die in 3 months, it might comfort me if the doctor told me I was perfectly fine. But, I'd still have the illness and I would still be dead in 3 months, regardless of the comfort the doctor's story would give me.

[Wrath]

Yes, it may comfort people. But comfort does not mean truth, and we are talking about the truth of the claim. If I had a serious illness and was going to die in 3 months, it might comfort me if the doctor told me I was perfectly fine. But, I'd still have the illness and I would still be dead in 3 months, regardless of the comfort the doctor's story would give me.

You're mixing things up.

What you describe with the doctor example assumes the patient to be willfully ignorant because you can actually narrow it down to being ill or not. Ghosts on the other hand cannot be categorized as reality or fiction because people cannot and will not be able to ever prove either side.

[Blacksite]

You and I must be on entirely different levels. I guess becoming a parent has given me a completely new sense of meaning to the term 'loved ones' and the desire to retain their memory, no matter how insane it may seem to others.

Are you sure it didn't just inflate your ego?

[Valefor]

You're mixing things up.

What you describe with the doctor example assumes the patient to be willfully ignorant because you can actually narrow it down to being ill or not. Ghosts on the other hand cannot be categorized as reality or fiction because people cannot and will not be able to ever prove either side.

You suggested that it may comfort people to think that ghosts exist. I am agreeing with you on that part, but being comforted by an idea does not make the idea true.

We can use many examples. If you don't like the example of the doctor, how about an example of Zeus. In ancient Greece, some believed lightning came from Zeus' hands. When lightning did not strike, it comforted people because they thought they were appeasing the gods. Were they correct to say lightning came from Zeus? No, and their feelings had no bearing on the truth.

The same applies to ghosts. We can wish they exist because it may bring us comfort, and it may seem to 'explain' things we do not yet understand, but it doesn't mean they exist.

[itachi73378]

There is no cohesive evidence of what lies beyond. From my experience with death I can tell you its dark and lifeless.

So you have experienced death?

A gap in knowledge is just that, a gap. We don't need to fill it with stories and say they are true just because we don't yet know all the answers.

Oh and science works SO much differently right
They say force carriers like gravitons (carriers of the gravitational force) are completely invisible and their existence cannot be proven, yet the scientific community treats them as an actual 'thing'.

Science is built around first filling the gaps by stories and then testing it. Sometimes they don't understand it so they accept it as it is, like many mysteries surrounding quantum mechanics.

On topic, I do certainly believe there is a unseen/invisible race of creation called jinn however do they qualify as ghosts, I don't know. And I've never had any paranormal experience but my relatives have.