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    Square Enix: PS4 & 720 Will Need Plenty Of RAM To Meet Our Standard (+Edge RAM Rumor)


    Square Enix’s Agni’s Philosophy tech demo turned a lot of heads when it was revealed at E3 last month. This brief glimpse of what the future holds for the company’s long running Final Fantasy series ( among other projects ) isn’t only impressive visually but may also be a technical challenge for future consoles.

    In the newest issue of Edge Magazine, Creative Director and Senior Manager Takeshi Nozue mentioned that the Agni’s Philosophy real-time tech demo, running on the Nvidia’s GTX 680, was a challenge due to the amount of RAM available.

    “Memory size is the biggest challenge,” Nozue stated.

    “The texture quality in the Agni’s Philosophy demo is an enormous drain and it’s clear that the next-generation consoles will have to carry a fat wedge of RAM if they’re to support Square’s tech,” Edge elaborated.

    This gen developers ran into issues due to the amount of memory available for the PlayStation 3, something Sony addressed with the PS Vita. But what about the PS4 and 360?

    While both Sony and Microsoft remain quiet about their respective new hardware, a developer ( who wished to remain anonymous ) told the publication that the non-gaming functionality for Microsoft’s next XBox will take up a “hefty amount” of the system’s memory leaving an undisclosed amount left over for gaming.

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    Direct Edge Quote/New Rumor: "Outside of the Agni's Philosophy demo, we were told by a developer [who wishes to remain anonymous] that Microsoft's 360 successor will draw upon a "very large" amount of memory, albeit with a hefty amount given over to the console's non-gaming functionality."

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    Whether this is true or not remains to be confirmed. However, Square Enix is confident that hardware makers will ”come to a level of quality that will support” the visuals shown in the tech demo.
    Source: http://thesilentchief.com/2012/07/04...nixs-standard/


    Last edited by X2; 07-05-2012 at 19:03.
    "We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that (developers) want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is, what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?"
    --Kaz Hirai, CEO, Sony Computer Entertainment

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    Well SE is going to have to tailor their engine to whatever hardware specs the next consoles are packing if they want to make their games on the next consoles regardless of what their "standards" are.

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    So those 8gb rumors for the 720 are true?
    "We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that (developers) want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is, what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?"
    --Kaz Hirai, CEO, Sony Computer Entertainment

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    it seems all devs want MS and sony to a lot of ram in there next gen consoles lets see if they do it. i hope it at least 4 gigs

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    The non gaming functions of the next xbox will take up a "hefty" amount of the RAM leaving an "undisclosed amount" left over for gaming. I dont like the sound of that.

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    Basically the next consoles are dead from the start if they have anything less than 4gigs.

    Ofcourse that is a bit of an exaggeration to say "dead" but if they are to be the last of the consoles, they better come with atleast 4gb.

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    better yet just make it upgradeable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMullah88 View Post
    better yet just make it upgradeable...
    Nope...than they might aswell make a pc

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    Yeah you can't really make RAM upgradable in a console because developers are still gonna be limited to original amount anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    Yeah you can't really make RAM upgradable in a console because developers are still gonna be limited to original amount anyway.
    Indeed, since they'll have to code for the common denominator anyway.
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    ^What about the nintendo 64's expansion pack?

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    while MS may take note of Epic in how the new hardware is developed, i can't see them rushing to listen to Square just for movie sequences, or as someone said on another forum...

    I learnt a new term the other month I just realised I'd never shared: Asset tour. It's the part of the game, or maybe the whole game, that is on rails and forces you to look at something that the devs spent a lot of money on making, so you're going to damn well stop interacting and look at some assets or listen to some voice acting. A simialr term I hear used is "theme park game", a game that consists of nothing but asset tours.

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    Square Enix should be more concerned with releasing titles we've been waiting years for first!

    FF Vs 13 where are thou?

    As for tackling this, even if the consoles do not meet the hardware specifications that SE are hoping for, SE will either have to comply and make their games and engines work or miss out on the moneh and go PC only.

    Gaming on all platforms right now.

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    SE just needs to make sure the next FF game can meet the standards of what RPG have been all about for decades, and that's exploration. So I really don't wanna hear about their new tech until they can get all the basics right.

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