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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    I'm not what to make of this.

    Either its a lazy fake, or a lazy Sony.

    Either way it show no effort in design (grab the top producyt at themoment in graphics card, and recent CPU).
    It doesnt really marry up with the ram though.

    However it would be very easy to port/develop.
    People criticise Sony for making the PS3 too complicated, then when PS4 "seemingly" is made simple, they are lazy. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost-Rhayne View Post
    People criticise Sony for making the PS3 too complicated, then when PS4 "seemingly" is made simple, they are lazy. lol
    I just dont think it would be this straight forward at all.
    BTW Im saying I doubt this is legit, as I really dont think Sony are that lazy to just grab all these bits form AMD.
    $#@! next we will have "mainboard by Gigabyte".

    Custom buss's, etc are what consoles are all about.
    This doesnt really give us much insight into anything like that.

    I mean yes thes specs could be real, but its not going to be "just
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    And I'm still dubious about the RAM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    I just dont think it would be this straight forward at all.
    BTW Im saying I doubt this is legit, as I really dont think Sony are that lazy to just grab all these bits form AMD.
    $#@! next we will have "mainboard by Gigabyte".

    Custom buss's, etc are what consoles are all about.
    This doesnt really give us much insight into anything like that.

    I mean yes thes specs could be real, but its not going to be "just
    this.
    And I'm still dubious about the RAM.
    Well this "leak" does say that these specs aren't final, just alpha kits. However, I don't really get what makes this spec leak any more credible then the gabillion leaks we've had before, so I take it all with a pinch of salt.

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    this is old news where have y'all been?



    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    I just dont think it would be this straight forward at all.
    BTW Im saying I doubt this is legit, as I really dont think Sony are that lazy to just grab all these bits form AMD.
    $#@! next we will have "mainboard by Gigabyte".

    Custom buss's, etc are what consoles are all about.
    This doesnt really give us much insight into anything like that.

    I mean yes thes specs could be real, but its not going to be "just
    this.
    And I'm still dubious about the RAM.

    that's a early dev-kit by the way & chances are the CPU & GPU will be together on one chip APU or SOC & maybe like the Vita with the Memory stacked on the SOC, it will not be PC parts just placed inside a console.


    & yes this is legit as of the end of 2011.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    I wish Sony would switch to DirectX, I'm not a big fan of OpenGL.
    Why does it make a difference to you what API Sony uses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ONQ View Post
    yes this is legit as of the end of 2011.
    How do you know? Has there ever been an official confirmation?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath View Post
    How do you know? Has there ever been an official confirmation?
    insiders say that's the same information that they received near the end of last year.


    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha2 View Post
    I'ma say exactly what the guy "Fred" on the source website said



    Direct x is a microsoft product, no way is sony using it. This is a load of bunk.
    that's just to show what level of Direct X the GPU will be Sony will be using OpenGL, RSX was a Direct X 9 GPU that don't mean that Sony used Direct X on the PS3




    also the specs are the same as the one's I posted a day before they posted this just using different details

    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477540



    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=421

    "VGleaks seems to be "confirming" these rumors?

    http://www.vgleaks.com/world-exclusi...p-first-specs/"
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    Quote Originally Posted by snooper71 View Post
    So are these actual first specs or some ass pulled specs? Don't want to bother reading the whole thing if its the later
    I'd suspect that they're pulled from say Jackass's arse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bligmerk View Post
    Seems Legit!
    I don't believe the x86 Architecture for the next gen consoles that's being spun out of MS and now Sony. I believe it only when MS or Sony makes such an announcement.



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    Wow this all is looking extremely probable. People nag onto little things like "direct X" but everything else seems really feasible.
    Now sony just needs to increase the RAM to 4gb

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAZ427 View Post
    I'd suspect that they're pulled from say Jackass's arse.

    I don't believe the x86 Architecture for the next gen consoles that's being spun out of MS and now Sony. I believe it only when MS or Sony makes such an announcement.
    Well, in case you don't know, "Seems Legit" is the new meme for "are you $#@!ing $#@!ting me?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligmerk View Post
    Well, in case you don't know, "Seems Legit" is the new meme for "are you $#@!ing $#@!ting me?".



    So tell me what's so unbelievable about this?

    we have been talking about these specs on NeoGaf & Beyond3D for the last month.

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    Seems a bit farfetched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzKurozz View Post
    Its gotta be bull$#@! thou, that $#@! in a console?
    it'll run Watch Dogs & Squares demo at the same time while trancoding a 1080p movie in the background, but its BS specs

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    I saw the term 'UMA'

    God I hope its fake. and as far as the DirectX thing who's to say an experimental 11.5 build isn't lurking under radar among other things. I'll have fun with my rumors rather than blatantly shoot 'em down as though they've suck 10 years off my life, lol

    Its gotta be bull$#@! thou, that $#@! in a console?
    it'll run Watch Dogs & Squares demo at the same time while trancoding a 1080p movie in the background, but its BS specs
    A machine that could do that would be a dream for me


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    In exclusive we have the detailed first specs (not final) for PS4, most likely first alpha kits sent to developers:
    TLDR SPECS
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    • 4 core (2 core pairs) 3.2 GHz AMD x86 (Steamroller)
    • aggregate, 10x PS3 PPU performance
    • 512 KByte L2 per core pair
    • 64 bit pointers


    GPU

    • AMD R10x series GPU @ 800 MHz (Tahiti)
    • aggregate 10x RSX performance, 1.84 TFlops
    • DX”11.5″
    • cheap branching
    • 18 compute units, focus on fine grained compute & tessellation

    MEMORY:

    • 2 GByte UMA, pushing for 4 GByte
    • 192 GByte/ sec non-coherent access for e.g. GPU
    • 12 GByte/ sec coherent access for CPU
    • >50% longer memory latency for CPU/ GPU compared to PC!!!
    • DXT is lowest bpp texture compression format

    MEDIA:

    • 50 GByte BD drive
    • PCAV, between 3.3 and 8x BD, most likely clamped to 6x
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    • HDD SKU with at least 380 GByte
    • downloadable games

    EXTRA HARDWARE:

    • video encoder/ decoder
    • audio processing unit, ~200 concurrent MP3 streams
    • HW zlib decompressor



    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Okay, i had to do the copy past, but whatever.

    with such a build wouldn't they want 4GB of RAM with this setup? I mean at the very least I would assume so o.O

    just looking at this seems more like an Xbox setup compared to a PS3 setup, but that's just me. I have a feeling this is a setup, these are probably the next Xbox specs lol I am feeling like we are being setup here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    Its gotta be bull$#@! thou, that $#@! in a console?
    it'll run Watch Dogs & Squares demo at the same time while trancoding a 1080p movie in the background, but its BS specs
    you do realize that the GPU that ran the Square demo is a GTX 680 right? & it has 3 TFLOPS vs 1.84 TFLOPS of the PS4 early spec GPU right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ONQ View Post
    So tell me what's so unbelievable about this?

    we have been talking about these specs on NeoGaf & Beyond3D for the last month.
    Yes, and that is the problem -- ALL THE BULL$#@!, errr, wait TALK. This expanded fabrication is obviously from the earlier fabrications that were initially attributed to the next Xbox beginning in the fall last year. The "insider" was Charlie Dimerjian and it is a wonder why so many nitwit gamers actually believe this lying fool anymore. When the next Xbox reveal didn't happen as predicted, then the same knuckle-headed "specs" started being applied to the PS4 and it appears 99% of the gamers believing the specs were for the next Xbox had no trouble shifting their belief system that it was actually the specs for the PS4. Then, when there were too many logic holes, the usual bunch of idiots started filling in the logic holes. Come on, this electronic text that can be easily copied, pasted and edited to look like anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ONQ View Post
    you do realize that the GPU that ran the Square demo is a GTX 680 right? & it has 3 TFLOPS vs 1.84 TFLOPS of the PS4 early spec GPU right?
    I think it's possible they might scale it down a little and still get similar results,
    kinda like how pc has adjustable settings AA 1080p and whatnot. plus console gaming always leaves room for optimization so even if the card is not strong enough they might still be able to achieve what they're looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chulo View Post
    I think it's possible they might scale it down a little and still get similar results,
    kinda like how pc has adjustable settings AA 1080p and whatnot. plus console gaming always leaves room for optimization so even if the card is not strong enough they might still be able to achieve what they're looking for.
    I'm sure it could run with the PS4 specs I was just pointing that out because TGO said it could run the Watch Dog & The Square demo at the same time.




    Quote Originally Posted by Bligmerk View Post
    Yes, and that is the problem -- ALL THE BULL$#@!, errr, wait TALK. This expanded fabrication is obviously from the earlier fabrications that were initially attributed to the next Xbox beginning in the fall last year. The "insider" was Charlie Dimerjian and it is a wonder why so many nitwit gamers actually believe this lying fool anymore. When the next Xbox reveal didn't happen as predicted, then the same knuckle-headed "specs" started being applied to the PS4 and it appears 99% of the gamers believing the specs were for the next Xbox had no trouble shifting their belief system that it was actually the specs for the PS4. Then, when there were too many logic holes, the usual bunch of idiots started filling in the logic holes. Come on, this electronic text that can be easily copied, pasted and edited to look like anything.


    they are not the same specs that was said to be Xbox Next specs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ONQ View Post
    insiders say that's the same information that they received near the end of last year.
    So they recieved informaiton lats year that dev kit contianed (I assume this was what they contianed) a GPU that hadnt even been released to the public yet?

    Tahiti hit the shelves when again?

    While I'm all for advanced, this sounds like "Sony" (or the guy that made this up) just said "let grab the next GPU/CPU of the production line and call it a devkit."

    "Steamroller" was first heard of as a name in Sep 11 BTW, rumoured, not even out.

    While that isone way to go, it very friggin expensive one I guess. It also as you say, tells me this is nothing like the actual machinefinal specs, even if it is legit.

    The biggest things that I'm interested in is the dedicated audio and decompession hardware, you know why, because those are things that actually scream bull$#@! to me.
    No one with that much grunt is going to bother with a dedicated zlib decompressor and a dedicated audio chip it is way to restricitve.


    Soo, end result is we have a GPU that does exsit (just) , coupled with a CPU that doesnt, isnt supposed to be released untill "sometime in 2013"?

    Also what happened to the Fusion rumour, where it had an APU as well?

    Mind you it still all matchs up with what this guy said...

    The X-Box 3 is going to have an 8-core 64-bit processor (assumedly an i7 or similar design) rated at 1.2 Teraflops. The PS4 will feature a 4-core 32-bit processor. XB3 will be using a GPU running support for DirectX 11, while the PS4 will be using an OpenGL 4 GPU. XB3 is specified to use 4 GB RAM, and the PS4 will be shipped with 2GB.
    Except of course for the stupid 32 bit thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    So they recieved informaiton lats year that dev kist contianed (I asusme this was what they contianed) a GPU that hadnt even been released to the public yet?

    Tahiti hit the shelves when again?

    While I'm all for advanced, this sounds like Sony just said "let grab the next GPU of the prodction line and call it a devkit."

    While that one way to go, it very friggin expensive one I guess. It also as you say, tells me this is nothing like the actual machine.
    because the parts that will be in the PS4 are not out yet so they are using GPUs & CPUs with around the same target specs so devs can make games to these specs, Sony didn't have a SOC/APU with a GPU & CPU that's not out yet stuffed inside it to give to devs at the end of last year.

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    Isn't that very normal with early dev kits? They give developers machines that are 'roughly' what they're going for so that they can start to do preliminary work and adjustments on their games?


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