Was it too big a punishment for Michael Vick?

**DayWalker** · 07-10-2012

2 years in jail.... forfeits millions of dollars... and forfeited 2 years of his football legacy...

yeah he paid what he owed.

His crime was disgusting... but at the end of the day, dogs aren't people. And there are cultures in the world where (animal) fighting is not a big deal...

**mickice** · 07-10-2012

Don't know him, his colour or the sport he plays for but 2 years is not long enough and this guy needs help.
I know dogs aren't people, but this dog just like us humans woke up in life, a really shit one. It didn't have to end this way.

**YoungMullah88** · 07-10-2012

Originally Posted by DayWalker

2 years in jail.... forfeits millions of dollars... and forfeited 2 years of his football legacy...

yeah he paid what he owed.

His crime was disgusting... but at the end of the day, dogs aren't people. And there are cultures in the world where (animal) fighting is not a big deal...

and some cultures that eat dog meat....known as 404 meat!

**Lethal_NFS** · 07-10-2012

Originally Posted by Dave

Facts aren't excuses. It's your choice to live in ignorance of the situation or not.

Yeah.....I am the ignorant one lol.

Do not waste your words trying to convince me that killing a baby or a person should not be punished more than killing some dogs. You are wasting your time.

**$Greatness$** · 07-10-2012

Shouldn't have went to jail, period. The things that's done in this world make his animal killings inferior. I'm not condoning his activities, but let's be real here. There are a lot worse things that are done. You got Lindsay Lohan walking up and down the road coked-up having accidents almost killing people, but she gets 3 months in "jail" while 2 of the months are suspended and she's on probation.

People shoot up Ducks, Pigeons, animal crackers and the like, but because Vick kills dogs there is a difference? 2 years was a travesty and he shouldn't have done that. Only reason he was arrested was because the government ain't get their cut through taxes. lulz

**Shibby** · 07-10-2012

Dogs in this country have more rights than people in other countries.

**weskurtz81** · 07-10-2012

Originally Posted by DayWalker

2 years in jail.... forfeits millions of dollars... and forfeited 2 years of his football legacy...

yeah he paid what he owed.

His crime was disgusting... but at the end of the day, dogs aren't people. And there are cultures in the world where (animal) fighting is not a big deal...

Too bad for him he wasn't fighting animals in a country where it was culturally acceptable.

Originally Posted by $Greatness$

Shouldn't have went to jail, period. The things that's done in this world make his animal killings inferior. I'm not condoning his activities, but let's be real here. There are a lot worse things that are done. You got Lindsay Lohan walking up and down the road coked-up having accidents almost killing people, but she gets 3 months in "jail" while 2 of the months are suspended and she's on probation.

People shoot up Ducks, Pigeons, animal crackers and the like, but because Vick kills dogs there is a difference? 2 years was a travesty and he shouldn't have done that. Only reason he was arrested was because the government ain't get their cut through taxes. lulz

For a minute there I thought you were going to say it was because he was black.

**Fenix** · 07-10-2012

Dont know who this clown is, and I dont care. But forcing animals to fight, or harming them yourself, is complete bull and no punishment is enough.

**Oatmeal** · 07-10-2012

No, the punishment was too little for the crime. << That's laughable.

Forcing animals to run around an oval is ok? Animal lovers.
Place you bets.

**$Greatness$** · 07-10-2012

Originally Posted by weskurtz81

For a minute there I thought you were going to say it was because he was black.

Begs the question though. What if it was Tom Brady or Peyton Manning? 2 years for these guys? Don't think so, but I won't assume since I really don't know. (laugh out loud)

**F34R** · 07-10-2012

Originally Posted by Lethal_NFS

I had to check the date of this thread because I thought for sure I was going to see 2007.

Dante Stallworth killed someone while drinking and driving. His sentence was 30 days in jail. So do I think Mike Vick was punished too harshly? Hell ya I do!!!!

Donte Stallworth had more of a penalty than just the 30 days. Either way, it doesn't have anything to do with what Vick did.

Originally Posted by ps3freak18

Yeah the Dante Stallworth punishment was laughable to say the least. He should have probably at least gotten 10 years and had to serve 4-5. He had been drinking. But on subject. I honestly don't think he was given enough. Torturing/fighting dogs is about like molesting children in my book. Not on the level of severity but the fact that you can control the dogs and make them do what you want against their own will. It takes a fucked up individual to do something like that.

What's laughable is when people comment on things they don't know about, or base a lot of comments on comparing penalties to other crimes by other people.

Originally Posted by Lethal_NFS

I don't give a rats ass what the lawyers and Dante agreed to. He killed a person drinking and driving and served 30 days. Casey Anthony kills her 2yr old child and walks away. Vick kills some dogs and serves 5yrs.

I do not need to hear excuses for why they served or didn't serve time. What we do know, is the crime that was committed.

It is quite obvious that Vick would have served a much lessor sentence if he slammed a few beers and killed someone with his vehicle. Ridiculous.

There's a huge difference in having evidence to prove someone was guilty of a crime, vs. not having the evidence needed for a guilty verdict.

**Lethal_NFS** · 07-10-2012

Originally Posted by F34R

Donte Stallworth had more of a penalty than just the 30 days. Either way, it doesn't have anything to do with what Vick did.

I know it has nothing to do with what Vick did. It was my reasoning for choosing what I did in the poll. Yes Dante paid a lot of money and served 30 days. And I know all about the court system. Just because someone is innocent (Casey Anthony), that does not mean that they are........

You can try to convince me that Vick did much worse than them till you are blue in the face, but my opinion stands. Mike Vick has done much less than many out there which received a much smaller sentence.

**Funeralfog** · 07-10-2012

the NFL is garbage for anyone to find role models, fuck 'em all

**weskurtz81** · 07-10-2012

Originally Posted by $Greatness$

Begs the question though. What if it was Tom Brady or Peyton Manning? 2 years for these guys? Don't think so, but I won't assume since I really don't know. (laugh out loud)

Hard to say since I can't recall the last time a rich white guy had an operation like Vick had, apparently they are in to things like golf, horse racing, riding on yachts. I think the perception is they wouldn't have spent 2 years in jail, but it's also the perception that dog fighting isn't a traditional past time of white folks (not that none do it, but it's not something that is as common as it is with the black culture).

All that aside, there have been people that were sentenced to much longer prison terms than Vick for dog fighting, so I'd have to say he got off easy.

**F34R** · 07-10-2012

Originally Posted by Lethal_NFS

I know it has nothing to do with what Vick did. It was my reasoning for choosing what I did in the poll. Yes Dante paid a lot of money and served 30 days. And I know all about the court system. Just because someone is innocent (Casey Anthony), that does not mean that they are........

You can try to convince me that Vick did much worse than them till you are blue in the face, but my opinion stands. Mike Vick has done much less than many out there which received a much smaller sentence.

It doesn't have anything to do with what Vick did, what he was penalized for, etc. Dude, just google the Donte case, read about it. After you know it all, it STILL doesn't have a single thing to do with Vicks crime, or punishment. If you want to compare it, find someone else that did the same thing. Otherwise, you're creating a mess for your own thoughts about it. There are so many crimes that are less penalized than other crimes, etc., etc.

**DreDayDetox** · 07-10-2012

This is probably irrelevant, but to the people who are saying it's just a dog: Own one.

**$Greatness$** · 07-10-2012

Originally Posted by DreDayDetox

This is probably irrelevant, but to the people who are saying it's just a dog: Own one.

For what? If I wanted something shitting, eating and taking my money I'd just have a kid.

**DreDayDetox** · 07-10-2012

Originally Posted by $Greatness$

For what? If I wanted something shitting, eating and taking my money I'd just have a kid.

Most unrealistic assumption of owning a pet ever. lol

**Beast of Bourbon** · 07-10-2012

This thread reminds me of the thread about the women who threw a cat into a trashcan a few years ago.
I'll just enjoy my popcorn, i think most people know how i feel about animals.

**three3-times** · 07-10-2012

U gotta be kidding me?! i didnt even know this. he got sent to prison over fricking dogs, just dogs?! i really hate people that treat worthless animals like humans. i cant fathom how people can go to prison over a fucking animal.

yes i hate dogs.

Zimmerman can shoot a kid and get a way with it? OJ can kill a woman and get a way with it, yet this dude does hard time OVER FUCKING ANIMALS?!

this world is a joke.

**Mo-green28** · 07-10-2012

Straight to the point, yes Vick was punished way too long for this imo. maybe 4months prison time, Suspended from NFL a season or 2, 2000 community hours, and his right to buy pets revoked or something.

With how bad a lot of other things are in the world with human on human violence with people getting slack, Straight up 2 years rotting in prison was too long imo.

And i'm done right there

P.S No I'm not a Mick Vick fan gooo Patriots.

**Dave-The-Rave** · 07-10-2012

Way too little. Though I am the kind of person who cares more about an animal dying in a movie than a human.

**Lethal_NFS** · 07-10-2012

Originally Posted by F34R

It doesn't have anything to do with what Vick did, what he was penalized for, etc. Dude, just google the Donte case, read about it. After you know it all, it STILL doesn't have a single thing to do with Vicks crime, or punishment. If you want to compare it, find someone else that did the same thing. Otherwise, you're creating a mess for your own thoughts about it. There are so many crimes that are less penalized than other crimes, etc., etc.

Are you even reading my posts? I am very aware that it has nothing to do with Vicks case. Not a damn thing anyone says outside of his case has anything to do with him. I am ONLY using other examples to explain why I felt Vicks punishment was too harsh. I feel like a broken record now lol.

Want something more towards Vicks case? The US Marine that tossed a puppy over the cliff and recorded it with his phone. How much time did he spend in prison? Ya, he didn't.

I will use whatever examples I want to explain why Vick was punished too harshly. These are dogs with an average life of maybe 12-15yrs. My other examples are of real people that live a hell of a lot longer. We live in a country where animal killing serves more time than killing people.

Hey I love lobsters! Yet people boil them alive! That sounds cruel as hell to me. But since we like to eat them I guess it is ok to torture them......