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    Combination of marketing and nationalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    Combination of marketing and nationalism.
    Nationalism? I doubt it. If that were the case the original Xbox would have outsold the PS2 in the US last gen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Do we have 3000 different exclusives to choose from on the 360? Yes.
    Are you referring to those indie games in which like 90% of them are either trash or copies of other games?. There are some nice ones in there but come on, you can't seriously recommend someone going through that pile in hopes to find something good?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FonFahbre View Post
    Are you referring to those indie games in which like 90% of them are either trash or copies of other games?. There are some nice ones in there but come on, you can't seriously recommend someone going through that pile in hopes to find something good?.
    I am referring to Retail+XBLA+Indie. While you may not find many of the games appealing, many to. Everyone has a different opinion on what game is good for them. Either way, I was pointing out that the 360 has by far more exclusives, AND variety. It also has more affordable games for those with a tight income.

    Of course I don't think every Indie game is great (Farting game? lol), but tons of them are. But I don't even get that option on my PS3 or Wii.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    I am referring to Retail+XBLA+Indie. While you may not find many of the games appealing, many to. Everyone has a different opinion on what game is good for them. Either way, I was pointing out that the 360 has by far more exclusives, AND variety. It also has more affordable games for those with a tight income.

    Of course I don't think every Indie game is great (Farting game? lol), but tons of them are. But I don't even get that option on my PS3 or Wii.
    It would be nice if Microsoft filtered the crappy games and just offered those that might be worth investing your time into instead of throwing a random pile in there. <- Yes, I'm referring to just, Indie games.







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    Quote Originally Posted by FonFahbre View Post
    It would be nice if Microsoft filtered the crappy games and just offered those that might be worth investing your time into instead of throwing a random pile in there. <- Yes, I'm referring to just, Indie games.
    MS has somewhat not paid that huge attention to exclusives the past few years. But with that said, it has been a fantastic generation and this exclusive drought somewhat gives me the opportunity to go back and get those games (multiplatform and exclusive) that i missed out on earlier and the ability for me to play them at a lower price.

    Too many times people complain about games yet when they are there in surplus they dont get to play them all either not having the budget, or not having enough time to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FonFahbre View Post
    It would be nice if Microsoft filtered the crappy games and just offered those that might be worth investing your time into instead of throwing a random pile in there. <- Yes, I'm referring to just, Indie games.
    Well, you can sort by user rating in the marketplace, and on Xbox.com. You can also sort by best selling. Both would give people an idea of what is the best to choose from out of 2500 of them listed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chille View Post
    Id disagree with that, i can count the 360 exclusives on 2 hands, whille ps3 has alot more.
    In terms of retail releases, released in both EU and USA,published by either Sony or MS, Sony has 44, MS has 37.
    In terms of hardcore games that dont require a periphial (motion/kareoke), Sony 37, MS has 29.


    So youre arguing over 8 games.

    Good luck with that.
    These are about as accurate a figures as I can get. But there may be the odd missing title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    In terms of retail releases, released in both EU and USA,published by either Sony or MS, Sony has 44, MS has 34.
    In terms of hardcore games that dont require a periphial (motion/kareoke), Sony 37, MS has 29.


    So youre arguing over 8 games.

    Good luck with that.
    These are about as accurate a figures as I can get. But there may be the odd missing title.
    TBF, were it the other way around; those 8 games would have been made to look like the gap the Pacific Ocean resides in between New Zealand and the US.

    Let's be honest, this would've been the spin if it were the other way around (in MS' favour). You know it, I know it, vegetable lasagne knows it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    TBF, were it the other way around; those 8 games would have been made to look like the gap the Pacific Ocean resides in between New Zealand and the US.

    Let's be honest, this would've been the spin if it were the other way around (in MS' favour). You know it, I know it, vegetable lasagne knows it.
    So basically the way it's being made out just now on the opposite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    TBF, were it the other way around; those 8 games would have been made to look like the gap the Pacific Ocean resides in between New Zealand and the US.

    Let's be honest, this would've been the spin if it were the other way around (in MS' favour). You know it, I know it, vegetable lasagne knows it.
    Well, I honestly think its about what those games are, not how many there are.
    Truth is, of all the games released every year, only a small percentage are published by MS or Sony.
    People used to say Xbox has all the games, when it has such exlcuisves and Bioshock, Mass Effect etc.
    It wasnt about the fact that it had "games" it was that it had "good games people wanted to play".

    I mean, yes Sony has more game,s but if you a car sim fan youd be mad to be even looking at thier conosle over the past 6 years.
    It not about the number, its about good games.

    At the end of the day MS has exlcusives that compeletly suck "Ninja Blade" for example.
    But what they have done is cull away the titles that didnt work, and kept the ones that did, such as Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable.

    And one could say "but thats all they have this generation"

    Those 4 titles currently comprise of 3 games a peice on the Xbox 360, plus the spin off Halo Wars.

    Conversely, Sony have had Resistance, Motorstorm, and Uncharted with 3 games a peice, and then multiple sequal games like infamous, Ratchet and Clank, and Killzone.

    They are as bad as each other when it comes to sequals.

    And in terms of generated new IP this generation?

    MS:
    Kameo
    N3
    Gears of War
    Viva Pinata
    Crackdown
    Shadowrun
    Blue Dragon
    Mass Effect
    Lost Odyssey
    Ninja Blade
    Alan Wake

    Sony:
    Resistance
    Motostorm
    Folklore
    Uncharted
    Hot Shots Golf
    Little Big Planet
    Infamous
    Mod Nation Racers
    Heavy Rain
    Lair
    MAG
    Heavenly Sword

    Sony has produced 1 more title in terms of original IP.

    Its often a catch cry I hear, that Sony has more "diverse" games etc etec.

    Thats not even close to true.

    For every perosn who points to LBP, or Heavy Rain, you can point to Viva Piniata, or Halo Wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Well, I honestly think its about what those games are, not how many there are.
    Truth is, of all the games released every year, only a small percentage are published by MS or Sony.
    People used to say Xbox has all the games, when it has such exlcuisves and Bioshock, Mass Effect etc.
    It wasnt about the fact that it had "games" it was that it had "good games people wanted to play".

    I mean, yes Sony has more game,s but if you a car sim fan youd be mad to be even looking at thier conosle over the past 6 years.
    It not about the number, its about good games.

    At the end of the day MS has exlcusives that compeletly suck "Ninja Blade" for example.
    But what they have done is cull away the titles that didnt work, and kept the ones that did, such as Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable.

    And one could say "but thats all they have this generation"

    Those 4 titles currently comprise of 3 games a peice on the Xbox 360, plus the spin off Halo Wars.

    Conversely, Sony have had Resistance, Motorstorm, and Uncharted with 3 games a peice, and then multiple sequal games like infamous, Ratchet and Clank, and Killzone.

    They are as bad as each other when it comes to sequals.

    And in terms of generated new IP this generation?

    MS:
    Kameo
    N3
    Gears of War
    Viva Pinata
    Crackdown
    Shadowrun
    Blue Dragon
    Mass Effect
    Lost Odyssey
    Ninja Blade
    Alan Wake

    Sony:
    Resistance
    Motostorm
    Folklore
    Uncharted
    Hot Shots Golf
    Little Big Planet
    Infamous
    Mod Nation Racers
    Heavy Rain
    Lair
    MAG
    Heavenly Sword

    Sony has produced 1 more title in terms of original IP.

    Its often a catch cry I hear, that Sony has more "diverse" games etc etec.

    Thats not even close to true.

    For every perosn who points to LBP, or Heavy Rain, you can point to Viva Piniata, or Halo Wars.
    I think they're fairly comparable - with the quality edge I'd give to Sony (in which no doubt you and probably Soldier would dispute - I bet my house on it ).

    Not that I'm saying that there is a gap. My point simply was; had the shoe been on the other foot, I have as much confidence in certain MS fans to be spinning that those 8 (or however many) games are a substantial difference; so hard that Shane Warne and Murali themselves will be proud of the job well done /cricket reference.

    I just find it funny.

    That's all.

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    It didnt get spun for the 4+ years MS did have more exlcusives, so no.
    Not to the ridiculous extent we have things like this....


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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    And in terms of generated new IP this generation?

    MS:
    Kameo
    N3
    Gears of War
    Viva Pinata
    Crackdown
    Shadowrun
    Blue Dragon
    Mass Effect
    Lost Odyssey
    Ninja Blade
    Alan Wake

    Sony:
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    Folklore
    Uncharted
    Hot Shots Golf
    Little Big Planet
    Infamous
    Mod Nation Racers
    Heavy Rain
    Lair
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    You are forgetting,

    3D Dot Game Heroes
    Afrika
    Demon Souls
    Haze
    Journey

    Soon to be:
    Little Big Planet Karting
    Playstation Allstars Battle Royale
    Beyond
    The Last of Us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal_NFS View Post
    You are forgetting,

    3D Dot Game Heroes
    Afrika
    Demon Souls
    Haze
    Journey
    None of those are games either published by Sony or available as a retail release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    None of those are games either published by Sony or available as a retail release.
    They are all retail releases. I own them all on disc. I thought you were just posting new IP's this gen. Why does it matter who published them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal_NFS View Post
    They are all retail releases. I own them all on disc. I thought you were just posting new IP's this gen.
    Journey isn't a retail release yet, and even then it will only be in America.
    And yes posting new IP's from Sony or MS, not others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Well, you can sort by user rating in the marketplace, and on Xbox.com. You can also sort by best selling. Both would give people an idea of what is the best to choose from out of 2500 of them listed.
    Yes, those are the decent ones I was referring to but again, I think it's better if they could filter them, who knows how many good indie games are in that pile that are lost and forgotten.







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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Journey isn't a retail release yet, and even then it will only be in America.
    And yes posting new IP's from Sony or MS, not others.
    Whoops, did not mean to include Journey in that list. It was supposed to be Sorcery which is published by Sony. And EyePet was published by Sony.

    Wonderbook is published by Sony too. I know there are more.

    So you missed,
    Afrika
    Sorcery
    EyePet
    Demon Souls

    Soon to release:
    The Last of Us
    Wonderbook
    BEYOND - Two Souls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal_NFS View Post
    Whoops, did not mean to include Journey in that list. It was supposed to be Sorcery which is published by Sony. And EyePet was published by Sony.

    Wonderbook is published by Sony too. I know there are more.
    Yes, I know, I did not put anythign that requies a periphial on the list, you open a whole can of worms about what is a game aand what is hardcore etc.
    I thought it was just best to ignore Kinect/Move/Eye/Microphone games altogether.

    Afrika was not published by Sony outside of Japan, and even then only in America.
    I only considered games wildly available, that generally meant EU+USA.
    eg, MLB isnt on the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Yes, I know, I did not put anythign that requies a periphial on the list, you open a whole can of worms about what is a game aand what is hardcore etc.
    I thought it was just best to ignore Kinect/Move/Eye/Microphone games altogether.
    Gotcha! That just leaves these then.

    Afrika
    Demon Souls
    Starhawk (basically is a new IP)

    Soon to release:
    The Last of Us
    BEYOND - Two Souls
    Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale
    LBP Karting

    I am actually just curious to see the full PS3 list which is why I am adding lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal_NFS View Post
    Gotcha! That just leaves these then.

    Afrika
    Demon Souls

    Soon to release:
    The Last of Us
    BEYOND - Two Souls
    Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale
    LBP Karting

    I am actually just curious to see the full PS3 list which is why I am adding lol
    Afrika and Demon Souls werent published by Sony outside of Japan.

    I shold also meniton I only counted till End of 2011.


    Genji
    Resistance
    NBA 07
    Untold Legends
    Motorstorm
    Heavenly Sword
    Lair
    NBA 08
    Folklore
    Ratchett and Clank Future: TOD
    Uncharted
    Hot Shots Golf
    NBA 09
    Little Big Planet
    Motorstorm: PR
    Resistance 2
    SOCOM CONFRONTATION
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    Infamous
    LBP 2
    Uncharted 2
    Ratchett and Clank Future:CIT
    MAG
    Heavy Rain
    God Of War 3
    Mod Nation Racers
    GT5
    LBP 2
    Killzone 3
    SOCOM 4
    Motostorm Apoc
    Infamous 2
    Resistance 3
    Ratchett and Clank all for One
    Uncharted 3
    DC Universe


    Their is probably ones I'm missing.

    Edit: Like White Knight Chronicles...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Afrika and Demon Souls werent published by Sony outside of Japan.
    Does not matter. They were published by Sony. Originally published by Sony Computer Entertainment. Should not matter if another publisher published the game later on. Either way, these new IP's originally happened due to Sony.

    We should get a full list of all new IP games for both Microsoft and Sony, published by anyone. That would be a nice list to compare. Not including Kinect, camera, or PS Move only games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal_NFS View Post
    Does not matter. They were published by Sony. Originally published by Sony Computer Entertainment. Should not matter if another publisher published the game later on. Either way, these new IP's originally happened due to Sony.
    Not really, not when you consider the cost of localising a Japanese made games to the rest of the world. There was still a significant amount of money it took to publish these games outside of Japan. Smething that Sony did not do, or could not do (we have no idea on the publishing deals).
    You cant count them as sony IP or even related to Sony.

    I am thinking I am missing White Knight Chroniclse of that list however.....
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