Gun instead of TV: Washingtonian receives not quite what he ordered on the Internet

[claud3]

Ok i am bang to rights in not known the definition of the 2snd amendment.

Bang bang, bang bang

[Morganator]

I guess just get rid of every law. People should apparently have the right to have any gun, any time.

Laws were originally made to clarify the constitution's intent. The intent of the constitution is to limit the power of government. It's not meant to restrain the people unless their actions violate another's rights. Personally, I think we should have any weapon we want so long as we can afford it, maintain it, use it responsibly and as a last resort against tyranny. You nor anyone else has the right to dictate what weapon I can or can't have. The constitution doesn't give you that right, nor does it give that right to anyone else. You're just gonna have to get over yourself and accept the fact that your rights only extend to the point where they violate another's rights.

[F34R]

Laws were originally made to clarify the constitution's intent. The intent of the constitution is to limit the power of government. It's not meant to restrain the people unless their actions violate another's rights. Personally, I think we should have any weapon we want so long as we can afford it, maintain it, use it responsibly and as a last resort against tyranny. You nor anyone else has the right to dictate what weapon I can or can't have. The constitution doesn't give you that right, nor does it give that right to anyone else. You're just gonna have to get over yourself and accept the fact that your rights only extend to the point where they violate another's rights.

Yeah, I guess you haven't heard about all those weapons that violate others rights... ya know, the right to live. Anyways... I already know where you are at on this, and you know where I'm at. I never would violate someones rights that are God given. Period.

[Morganator]

Yeah, I guess you haven't heard about all those weapons that violate others rights... ya know, the right to live. Anyways... I already know where you are at on this, and you know where I'm at. I never would violate someones rights that are God given. Period.

Wait. You're telling me that guns are people now? A gun is an inanimate object. It is incapable of cognitive thought. It doesn't show emotion nor is it capable of anything that life is. Your assertion is incorrect to say the least and your logic behind banning guns is grossly flawed. You nor anyone else has the right to ban what weapon I may have.

[F34R]

Wait. You're telling me that guns are people now? A gun is an inanimate object. It is incapable of cognitive thought. It doesn't show emotion nor is it capable of anything that life is. Your assertion is incorrect to say the least and your logic behind banning guns is grossly flawed. You nor anyone else has the right to ban what weapon I may have.

Oh common... you know exactly what was meant. Just put "are used" in there ffs.

[claud3]

You are allowed and yet not allowed certain weapons. So to keep the 2snd amendment, you have to lose a bit of it

[Morganator]

Oh common... you know exactly what was meant. Just put "are used" in there ffs.

The wording is irrelevant. The fact is, guns aren't the problem, period. People on the other hand, are, period.

You are allowed and yet not allowed certain weapons. So to keep the 2snd amendment, you have to lose a bit of it

Incorrect. The constitution makes no distinction about what weapons you may have. It only makes the distinction for the reason behind allowing the right to bear arms. The purpose for the second amendment is as a last line of defense against a tyrannical government. This includes but is not limited to sidearms, shotguns, assault rifles, grenades and their launchers, vehicles such as personnel carriers, tanks, helicopters, jet fighters, bombers, aircraft carriers, destroyers, missile cruisers, submarines and a host of other weaponry that allows people to throw off government which has become destructive to the means and rights of a free and secure state. If I feel I need an F-22, armed with sidewinders, bunker busters and 6000 rounds of 50 caliber cannon rounds, I should be allowed to have it.

[F34R]

You are allowed and yet not allowed certain weapons. So to keep the 2snd amendment, you have to lose a bit of it

I don't think you lose any of it.

[claud3]

So i see it in a different way then. You are allowed guns but ot all types

[Morganator]

So i see it in a different way then. You are allowed guns but ot all types

It's cool. You're not from the United States so I don't expect you to know completely, nor do I expect you to interpret it in the context for which the framers of the constitution drafted it.

[claud3]

Ok i get that mate. But i was reading the 2nd amendment and i am getting to understand it

My bad for starting a debate in this

[Morganator]

Ok i get that mate. But i was reading the 2nd amendment and i am getting to understand it

My bad for starting a debate in this

Nah. It's cool man. And I was the who actually started this debate so no need for you to feel bad or be sorry. You didn't do anything.

[claud3]

ok cool. But its crazy how this guy ended up with a gun... He really needs to have some fun with that or at least try shooting it once in a while

[Vulgotha]

I'm kind of in agreement with Morg here. The weapons themselves are a non issue, it's the people behind them. We have a failing as a culture if people are no longer using them responsibly. It isn't the weapons fault.

Additionally yes, the 2nd Amendment was all about being able to resist oppression and defend yourself. An armed populace is a respected one.

Instead, we're being trampled by an overbearing federal government and Americans are 'convinced' that weapons are increasingly needless and that there is nothing wrong with our country whatsoever. Our government is our friend.

[claud3]

the 2nd amendment is a statement of the right to bare arms and yet the government is trying to control that right for their favor and against the people. Its weird how they preach the amendment and yet try to destroy it

[efs5030]

That's pathetic...


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[claud3]

ok lets not debate this, because i know i will lose

But do you phone the company you ordered your t.v from and say. Hey i got a neat present from you guys thanks