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    Sony 'struggling' to convince some publishers to back Vita

    PlayStation dev boss Yoshida to hold talks with more studios to foster support

    Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida has admitted for the first time that the PlayStation business has an uphill battle convincing some publishers to commit to its next-generation portable.
    In an interview with PlayStation the Official Magazine, Yoshida said: "We're having a more difficult time than we had anticipated in terms of getting support from third-party publishers, but that's our job. We will continue to talk to development communities and publishing partners and tell them why Vita can provide a great experience for the IPs they have."He added that the upcoming Assassin's Creed Vita game could be a testament to the appeal of developing games for Vita.
    Several developers have previously told CVG that building games for PS Vita is a considerably easier experience compared to other PlayStation systems.
    Publishers may have cold feet on committing for PS Vita due to its relatively low critical mass of customers. Sony announced on February 28th that the Vita had shipped 1.2 million units into retail worldwide, along with about 2 million game units.
    Last week it emerged that Sony has reduced its portable games sales forecast from 16 million units down to12 million.
    The platform holder has begun to combine PS Vita and PSP sales as a single 'portable' sales figure - making it difficult to track the progress of the new handheld.
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    Not surprised. This the kind of situation that can happen that people who adopt the "I play games not sales" motto seem to not realize. I have a Vita but I'm growing concerned about its future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    Not surprised. This the kind of situation that can happen that people who adopt the "I play games not sales" motto seem to not realize. I have a Vita but I'm growing concerned about its future.
    I don't know if that's a terrible concept to adapt. We're gamers and consumers, and not businessmen (at least not those who have stake or any influence in any decisions) that companies make.

    If the sales are bad, or if any of these systems go belly up; it cannot be our fault for not thinking about it by saying I "play games not sales".

    Quite honestly, isn't that what these companies want us to do?

    If I'm not mistaken, it is a large part of their motivation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    I don't know if that's a terrible concept to adapt. We're gamers and consumers, and not businessmen (at least not those who have stake or any influence in any decisions) that companies make. If the sales are bad, or if any of these systems go belly up; it cannot be our fault for not thinking about it by saying I "play games not sales". Quite honestly, isn't that what these companies want us to do? If I'm not mistaken, it is a large part of their motivation.
    To an extent youre right. But there does come a point in some instances where the games not sales concept becomes hiding your head in the sand and being in denial. As consumers we should have an even balance of both concepts. Enjoying the games that are out but also being aware of negative trends in the market and lack of developer support.
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    Not a surprise when they won't even talk about it themselves..glad I held off on getting one.
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    I don't really like any portable gaming devices but this is bad news for those that own the Vita. Things have to get better in the next 6 to 9 months or this will get even uglier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blu-Ray View Post
    All i can say is that Assassins Creed Vita and CoD Vita better be good... or else.
    I agree, from what we've seen on AC it looks very good for a portable game. It uses the same engine as AC3, and from the footage so far it looks good. CoD on the other hand we haven't seen anything, I hope its just because its just that good they want it show it off just before release... The Vita should be able to run the CoD engine. Would of been nice if MP/spec ops/zombies was linked to cross play with PS3 but the SP story was different. But I really doubt that one, or at least MP leveling should cross over

    Hope it does turn out good, so once a price cut comes along the Vita has some solid games and it'll be cheaper, sells increase and more devs will be attracted to make games. Hopefully japan sales will pick up round the holidays/early next year from the RPGs coming out like the F2P MMO's n such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XSpike View Post
    I agree, from what we've seen on AC it looks very good for a portable game. It uses the same engine as AC3, and from the footage so far it looks good. CoD on the other hand we haven't seen anything, I hope its just because its just that good they want it show it off just before release... The Vita should be able to run the CoD engine. Would of been nice if MP/spec ops/zombies was linked to cross play with PS3 but the SP story was different. But I really doubt that one, or at least MP leveling should cross over

    Hope it does turn out good, so once a price cut comes along the Vita has some solid games and it'll be cheaper, sells increase and more devs will be attracted to make games. Hopefully japan sales will pick up round the holidays/early next year from the RPGs coming out like the F2P MMO's n such.
    From my view of COD I think the Vita should be able to crossplay multiplayer with the PS3 version. Hell they already let laggy split screeners play why not Vita users. No doubt they would have to be near a great wifi connection but I see no reason they couldn't play with PS3 users online as you suggest. Being able to do that and link your MP accounts and rank up and so on...would be supper nice and would really help the Vita sells take off. I mean any 10+ million copy seller franchise should help move some consoles if they utilize the connections correctly. Those bundles will probably do well this Christmas if they both get out in time (I doubt COD will). Once they are off the market I imagine a price drop will be necessary. Get a Monster Hunter/Kingdom Hearts game with a price drop...sales should follow.

    Remember as soon as PS1 emulation comes down the library of games grows exponentially!! I'm sure Sony is counting on that quite a bit....could be why you aren't seeing tons of first party studios working on them....those people are probably working quite a bit on new IPs for the PS4 launch next holiday. That said I don't see Sony's game plan on helping this device. Is there something with the Gaikai deal that could be done on a Vita to bring more gaming....guess I don't know...otherwise I don't see a lot of games down the pipe.
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    Sony need to get Borderlands 2 with cross play on there. Also, Vita isn't even 6 months old yet. There are a lot of games in the pipe line. I reckon we'll see a price cut in another 6 months, by then there will be more games and the content and price will be closer to that sweet spot. History repeats, ala 3DS.

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    They've got to get this nailed down and fast. It's stuck in a catch-22 situation where it's failing because it has a lack of games but publishers are not willing to make games for it.

    A price cut is what is needed. It worked for the 3DS, well that and a few first party games.
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    I'm not one for portable gaming, really because I am never in a situation where such a console would come in handy.
    I'm not wishing failure against the Vita or any other future consoles, but I personally wish more effort and resources were put into home consoles.
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    Hopefully Sony can do something to remedy the lack of interest in developing for the system. A price cut would certainly help things, but they need some big time software. On the the other hand the fact that the original PSP is still strong in Japan isn't helping matters at all. Some more games developed for the Vita, and only the Vita in mind would be a welcome change. I know some like the cross platform play stuff, but it's no my thing.
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    it might be a good idea to lead by example and get your first party developers on it, eh Sony?

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3D D3V!L View Post
    it might be a good idea to lead by example and get your first party developers on it, eh Sony?
    Thats another problem too. At E3 Sony pointed at COD and AC (3rd party) but no 1st party offerings at all. And this early in Vita lifecycle is the important time to bolster their platform with some 1st party titles that will grab peoples attention. Drop those memory card prices and put out some 1st party Vita exclusives. Even if their based on existing IPs.

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    Vita needs games

    Third part devs need to see their costs of making games will return a profit ( so the hardware has to sell very well, lots of users = more games)

    Either Sony cut the price ( i believe the vita is worth the price compared to how expensive other gadgets are, but others don't see it this way and is affecting the vita) or TPDs just make games which is unlikely as proven here.

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    Definitely seeing how people can look at price first, games later. Put the wifi @ $199 for starters, drop the price on the vita mem cards a great amount, then we'll see some $#@! move!




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Definitely seeing how people can look at price first, games later. Put the wifi @ $199 for starters, drop the price on the vita mem cards a great amount, then we'll see some $#@! move!
    I know I won't be getting one til the price comes down quite a bit..just afraid it might be dead by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    Definitely seeing how people can look at price first, games later. Put the wifi @ $199 for starters, drop the price on the vita mem cards a great amount, then we'll see some $#@! move!
    People seem to forget about that. The pricing on those memory cards is ridiculous. Your average consumer inquiring about the Vita would be immediately put off by that.

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    sonys needs to bundle a game and memory card for people to start buying the vita and i have not even seen any tv commericals for the vita did they stop markting for the vita,, i wanna get one but iam holding off

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    Yup if they can start rolling out some 1st party titles, it will increase the public's interest in the Vita, selling more units, and ultimately encouraging 3rd party developers to develop for it as well.
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    its a good console but i belive im going to sell mine and rebuy in the next year hopefully a cheaper model and maybe they will have the 3g one in canada by then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyday View Post
    its a good console but i belive im going to sell mine and rebuy in the next year hopefully a cheaper model and maybe they will have the 3g one in canada by then
    I've actually been thinking about doing the same thing. And almost every week on the PS store its new Vita demos- None, new Vita game videos -None, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    I've actually been thinking about doing the same thing. And almost every week on the PS store its new Vita demos- None, new Vita game videos -None, etc.
    No kidding!!! How is there not even one new game video a week for vita! ridiculous ... i want choices of games ... now i'm just waiting for all the good games to come out ... the line up was good at launch but since the library has been growing at a snails pace ... PUMP IT UP SONY ... LET'S ROCK N ROLL ...we are waiting ........................

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    Agreed about the 1st party commitment to the Vita. But then again, we're not too sure what Sucker Punch and Media Molecule are up to. Guerilla as well, but I'd assume they're on KZ4 and some other PS4 title as they've got a bigger team, or was it two teams?

    I think Soul Sacrifice is a 1st party game, and the best games on the system right now are all either 1st party or published by Sony. If they're serious about the device ever becoming anything close to a success (and in the process encourage 3rd partys to take it seriously), then I agree that some of their A-list teams need to show some more interest in it, as that is one of Sony's major strengths in this industry: first party talent

    Announce some games and drop the price, like Nintendo did. Don't show us vaporware with no information like FFXHD and Blops:declassified.
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