your stance on abortion?

[DeviousOne]

Sometimes the decision to have the abortion is the correct decision. Nobody has the right to determine whether someone elses choice is the wrong choice.

I have 3 daughters, if either one of them were to get pregnant before the age of 18, I am making sure they get an abortion.

If anyone decides to have sex....anyone it could be ur little sister daughter ect....they need to be responsible and understand that they can get pregnant abortion shouldn't be an escape goat when there is free birth control available to them there is just no excuse to me for getting an abortion for having recreational sex...


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[Lethal_NFS]

If anyone decides to have sex....anyone it could be ur little sister daughter ect....they need to be responsible and understand that they can get pregnant abortion shouldn't be an escape goat when there is free birth control available to them there is just no excuse to me for getting an abortion for having recreational sex...


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Sorry but kids make mistakes. Birth control does not do shit as I have 6 kids, all of which were conceived on birth control.

If I feel that having an abortion is the best choice, then who are you to tell me otherwise? You have no idea if having that child would make both lives terrible. What future you could of had. Hell, you do not even know if that kid would grow up to be the next serial killer. Nobody has the right to tell anyone they can not have an abortion.

Even getting your shit snipped does not always work. Shit happens, and sometimes people have to make those tough decisions. Decisions that changer THEIR lives. Not yours.

[DeviousOne]

Weird thinking if you think being raped makes it acceptable to have an abortion and not in any other circumstances.

Really? Weird to think?

Being rape would be the only situation where a woman would be FORCE to do something she wouldn't want to do.

So she wasn't have recreational sex, or being irresponsible she was raped!

Could u imagine a woman that was raped having to go thru an pregnancy and she was raped by a guy she didn't even know. Everytime she sees that baby she has to be reminded of that sexual assault.

That's way different from some that willingly engage in sex for fun and got prego by accident.


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[Ghost-Rhayne]

Weird thinking if you think being raped makes it acceptable to have an abortion and not in any other circumstances.

Really? Even I don't disagree with rape abortion. A baby conceived by the consensual sex between two people who probably know each other is not the same as the one conceived by the rape of some girl by a criminal. They are night and day instances.

Imagine raising a child that looked like the man who forced himself on you, and what a nice truth for the child to uncover one day.

Abortion after rape is the only time I would support abortion.

[Lethal_NFS]

Really? Even I don't disagree with rape abortion. A baby conceived by the consensual sex between two people who probably know each other is not the same as the one conceived by the rape of some girl by a criminal. They are night and day instances.

Imagine raising a child that looked like the man who forced himself on you, and what a nice truth for the child to uncover one day.

Abortion after rape is the only time I would support abortion.

That is very hypocritical. Either you support abortion, or you don't. That child will still have her blood, it is still her child. But you will be fine with the abortion since she didn't ask for that child.......

Just like all those people that make mistakes and didn't ask to get pregnant. Even though they did take birth control, or used a condom, etc...

Anyone that says they are against abortion yet approve it if the woman was raped is nothing but a hypocrite. Instead of just handing that child over for adoption, you all of a sudden approve killing it? Pretty odd...

If you approve abortions for rape victims, then you approve abortion, period.

[DeviousOne]

Sorry but kids make mistakes. Birth control does not do shit as I have 6 kids, all of which were conceived on birth control.

If I feel that having an abortion is the best choice, then who are you to tell me otherwise? You have no idea if having that child would make both lives terrible. What future you could of had. Hell, you do not even know if that kid would grow up to be the next serial killer. Nobody has the right to tell anyone they can not have an abortion.

Its my opinion you don't have to like it or agree with it.

However its funny u said your children where convinced while ur spouse was on birth control. My close friend went exactly thru the same thing and now he always using protection so that doesn't happen. So it only took one time for him to learn however this really doesn't have anything to do with the discussion just the part when kids make mistakes. It happens once you learn or u don't my friend learned the first time.

I don't agree with abortion when someone accidently gets pregnant when u could avoid it. Wear a condom, birth control and they are MANY types, shit pull out or just don't have sex. I could never agree with the concept of anyone getting an abortion when having consensual sex.



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[Ghost-Rhayne]

That is very hypocritical. Either you support abortion, or you don't. That child will still have her blood, it is still her child. But you will be fine with the abortion since she didn't ask for that child.......

Just like all those people that make mistakes and didn't ask to get pregnant. Even though they did take birth control, or used a condom, etc...

Anyone that says they are against abortion yet approve it if the woman was raped is nothing but a hypocrite.

Why? My whole point of view on this is based on the matter of choice. I said if you are responsible enough to have recreational sex, you are responsible enough to deal with the consequences. I also said that sex isn't a part of the equation of human functioning, it's something that is chosen to do for either recreation or procreation. When a woman opens her legs and consents for a man to enter her, she has made a choice to engage in the act of creating a baby for the sake of pleasure and should deal with the consequences of the possible outcome of pregnancy instead of getting her little mistake sucked out.

A girl who was raped never had the opportunity to make that choice, it was made for her violently and horrifically, so why should she be responsible to deal with the consequences?

[keefy]

Really? Weird to think?

Being rape would be the only situation where a woman would be FORCE to do something she wouldn't want to do.

So she wasn't have recreational sex, or being irresponsible she was raped!

Could u imagine a woman that was raped having to go thru an pregnancy and she was raped by a guy she didn't even know. Everytime she sees that baby she has to be reminded of that sexual assault.

That's way different from some that willingly engage in sex for fun and got prego by accident.


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Really? Even I don't disagree with rape abortion. A baby conceived by the consensual sex between two people who probably know each other is not the same as the one conceived by the rape of some girl by a criminal. They are night and day instances.

Imagine raising a child that looked like the man who forced himself on you, and what a nice truth for the child to uncover one day.

Abortion after rape is the only time I would support abortion.

You guys are assuming I am against abortion.

I am not.

I do not understand why its acceptable when a woman has been violated and unacceptable when she has not.

[DeviousOne]

That is very hypocritical. Either you support abortion, or you don't. That child will still have her blood, it is still her child. But you will be fine with the abortion since she didn't ask for that child.......

Just like all those people that make mistakes and didn't ask to get pregnant. Even though they did take birth control, or used a condom, etc...

Anyone that says they are against abortion yet approve it if the woman was raped is nothing but a hypocrite. Instead of just handing that child over for adoption, you all of a sudden approve killing it? Pretty odd...

If you approve abortions for rape victims, then you approve abortion, period.

No that's not the case. This situation is like C2 narcotics if you support it for medicial u have to support it for recreational use. Do u? Most likely not so that's the same hypocritical agrue ur trying to make here.

So no you don't need to agree with abortion for people who willingly have sex and get pregnant if u agree with rape abortion.


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[DeviousOne]

You guys are assuming I am against abortion.

I am not.

I do not understand why its acceptable when a woman has been violated and unacceptable when she has not.

I didn't assume u were....if u read u'll see the points made and differences previously posted


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[Lethal_NFS]

Abortion is abortion. Does not matter how that baby is conceived. You are either for it, or against it. There is no in between.

[Ixion]

The ideal philosophical view that abortion is wrong because you're taking a life certainly makes sense, but there are certain gray areas that poke holes in that view, whether it's rape, health issues for the mother, etc. And if it's situational, then that means there is choice involved. Therefore I'm Pro-Choice!

And if you just want to allow abortion for certain situations, like being raped, then that can result in other issues, such as women accusing the man of rape whenever they want an abortion.

[LC77]

Simple answer to this. It is a womans choice, thus endeth the argument.

[Lethal_NFS]

Simple answer to this. It is a womans choice, thus endeth the argument.

Exactly! It is nobody else's business, or decision to make. Unless they are my kids and under the age of 18. Then it is my decision lol

[DeviousOne]

Abortion is abortion. Does not matter how that baby is conceived. You are either for it, or against it. There is no in between.

Who are you to tell me I have to be 100% for or against this is a very contradictory statement..hmmm

Abortion should only be an option for rape victims that didn't not have consensual sex to get pregnant. Just like narcotics are an option for medical use only for patients needing it.




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[mickice]

In life you are the sperm that made it, those hundred other guys died.

[Lethal_NFS]

Who are you to tell me I have to be 100% for or against this is a very contradictory statement..hmmm

Abortion should only be an option for rape victims that didn't not have consensual sex to get pregnant. Just like narcotics are an option for medical use only for patients needing it.

Sorry but how the hell can you put restrictions on killing the child? No you can't kill that child because you had sex on purpose. But you can kill your child because you didn't ask to have sex.

Both did not want to have the baby but you are saying one can kill their child over the other? That is a hypocrite.

[Wrath]

I have 3 daughters, if either one of them were to get pregnant before the age of 18, I am making sure they get an abortion.

Bad parenting, man. Bad parenting...

[Lethal_NFS]

Bad parenting, man. Bad parenting...

Think what you want. Are you even a parent?

I am going to make sure my kids can support a child before I allow them to have one. Your opinion doesn't matter lol

[Wrath]

Think what you want. Are you even a parent?

Not yet but I have my plans already. And please don't tell me to back off because I am not a parent yet. I still have certain conceptions of life and how to pass on my knowledge to my future children.

And forcing someone to an abortion is pretty much the last thing I'd ever do. It really isn't that simple and more like a cop-out in every way.

[DeviousOne]

Bad parenting, man. Bad parenting...

That's not cool and out of line don't even go there


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[Wrath]

That's not cool and out of line don't even go there


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To potentially force someone to kill an unborn child is acceptable but an honest criticism to that is not? Way to go, man.

[Ghost-Rhayne]

Both did not want to have the baby but you are saying one can kill their child over the other? That is a hypocrite.

Both did not want to have a baby, one did not want to have sex at all. There's a difference there...

[imINxile]

Would like to touch on an issue Ixion brought up, health issues for the mother.

I have a really great friend that was born with basically half a heart. She operates normally on a day to day basis, very much able to get pregnant. Her doctors say that there would be a strong chance she could die trying to carry full term..ending the chiles life as well.

I guess certain circumstances can make a choice like abortion much tougher than some people realize(not aimed at anyone in this thread).

[DeviousOne]

To potentially force someone to kill an unborn child is acceptable but an honest criticism to that is not? Way to go, man.

I have my opinions on abortion but I'm in no way going to question another mans ability to raise his own children. That's just crossing the line.



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