Police Brutality in St. Paul

[Beast of Bourbon]

Brutality? He even got a pat on the back at 1:53.
Gs a big boy, he can take it.

[KyleOnTheRun]

Smh... this happened about 4 miles from where I live...

[THUGGEDOUT]

Not too sure why we are expected to think the police are always in the wrong when these videos show up. If you are an individual that gets involved in situations where police need to come after, you done fucked up already. At least listen to what the officer tells you to do and treat him with respect, you follow those rules and you will be fine.

[THUGGEDOUT]

Not too sure why we are expected to think the police are always in the wrong when these videos show up. If you are an individual that gets involved in situations where police need to come after you, you done fucked up already. At least listen to what the officer tells you to do and treat him with respect, you follow those rules and you will be fine.

[Yuuichi]

All those officers showed up because a crowed was forming. It does not concern them and they are escalating the situation so the person being arrested feeds off the crowed and acts up more. It is the same reason people do stupid shit when surrounded by a crowd. The situation was dangerous because of the crowd forming and yelling.

[F34R]

"Is there anything less that could have been done?" is always a better question to be asking after the fact than "Is there anything more than could have been done?"

The latter usually follows a tragedy.

Based on the video, plus all the info so far, I'd say he did what was the safest and right thing to do; for him and the criminal.

[Lethal_NFS]

Based on the video, plus all the info so far, I'd say he did what was the safest and right thing to do; for him and the criminal.

Did you even watch the video? There was no point at all to kick a downed man while he is about to puke. Don't defend that asshole because you are a cop. That is bullshit.

If a cop kicks me like that, I swear to god you better have your gun pulled out.

[three3-times]

Im with Lethal, he kicked him 1st before anything happened? right?

Care to back your boy on that one Fear?!?!

[BoyBettaKnow]

I don't care how big you are compared to the guy your kicking. Kicking someone when they are down is a big no no and if your a policeman - act fucking professional. It's your duty to be composed, don't try to use a situation as an excuse to treat someone like that.

Dude was out of order, no two ways about it. You can justify it all you want, it doesn't make it right. What IF he was the wrong guy, what then?

[Completely Average]

How was he resisting arrest? He was down and was trying to throw up because he was sick from the pepper spray.

And why was he pepper sprayed again?

Oh yeah..... he was resisting arrest.

Dude, you are going to justify a random needless kick to the chest on a guy who was on the ground wretching?

I will.

It's called emotions. All people have them, even you. And when someone is fighting with you, sometimes the stress, adrenaline, and emotions take over momentarily.

Why, I'll bet that at least once in your life you've thrown a "needless" punch or kick to someone else, haven't you? Goaded into a fight, possibly punched first, but you made sure you got that last hit in, right?

Sure you have, we all have.

So, that would mean that you're no better than this cop, right? It would also mean you should be prosecuted and persecuted to the same level as this cop, right? Or do you have some legitimate reason why you believe such an act would be acceptable for you to do, but not others?

What IF he was the wrong guy, what then?

Probably the most insane comment in this thread.

The man was violently resisting arrest, punching, kicking, and biting at the police officer, and he was finally subdued and put handcuffs. Please explain to me precisely how you believe the cop could have possibly arrested an innocent person who violently attacked him?

Last time I checked, resisting arrest and refusing to follow a lawful order given by a police officer were both crimes.


Please explain to me how you could possibly believe this guy was innocent? Do you think the police got into this big fight with someone else, and then somehow managed to pepper spray and put handcuffs on a totally innocent passerby rather than the criminal they were fighting with?

[BoyBettaKnow]

I think it's more to do with that he is a cop and should compose himself. Shit, people annoy me in my line of work all the time, i don't think if i swore at them it would be acceptable. His job is being a cop. It's his duty to act professionally at all times. This clearly isn't acting professionally.

[Completely Average]

I think it's more to do with that he is a cop and should compose himself. Shit, people annoy me in my line of work all the time, i don't think if i swore at them it would be acceptable. His job is being a cop. It's his duty to act professionally at all times. This clearly isn't acting professionally.

How many times could I punch you in the face before you lose your composure?

Or do you think I could stand there punching you in the face indefinitely and you would never, ever loose your cool and react with similar punches?

People may annoy you at work, but I bet they aren't punching, kicking, and biting you, are they? And I'll bet if they did, you would fight back, even though it wasn't professional, wouldn't you?



Cops are still human, and still subject to human emotions.

[DeviousOne]

Its "debatable" whether the cop was wrong or right without video really had to come to a point where we can all agree on it.

I have a friend of mine from St. Paul apparently the cops there are dicks and over zealous. We have counties in Central florida with cops have reputations like that. Story doesn't shock me you give some people a badge and gun they think their dick grows 17 inches.

I'm not much of a police fan.

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[BoyBettaKnow]

How many times could I punch you in the face before you lose your composure?

Or do you think I could stand there punching you in the face indefinitely and you would never, ever loose your cool and react with similar punches?

People may annoy you at work, but I bet they aren't punching, kicking, and biting you, are they? And I'll bet if they did, you would fight back, even though it wasn't professional, wouldn't you?



Cops are still human, and still subject to human emotions.

In my job, all i would have to do is press a button and it automatically sends security up to me. I've had violent customers before and due to me wanting to keep my job even after being physically hit I can't retaliate. Of course, the natural response to getting hit would be to hit back - I have to act professional though and i expect police to do the same.

Let me put it this way. My mothers partner works with mentally unstable people, dangerous people (One guy killed his own mother over a tin of beans, another nailed a baby to a wall. We're talking dangerous, strong people) in January of this year whilst going through a routine talk with one of his patients they flipped out and started beating him up. To put things in perspective, my mums partner is about 5'10 and ~ 12 stone, he's not the biggest man in the world, the guy who was beating him was about 6 foot something and well over 17 stone.

Anyway, this guy proceeded to punch my mums partner in the face over and over again, he actually broke his jaw and his eye socket. He was sent out of work for 3 months to rehabilitate. Now if there was ever an excuse to loose your composer that would be it, he would've had to fight for his life. Instead all he did was sound the alarm and try to stay as far away from the angry patient as possible until help arrived. Bearing in mind he was in a small room with him, blood everywhere and also extremely dazed.

If he would've laid a single finger on him, he would've been out of a job. Instead he done what was expected of him, remain composed and call for help.

Please do not try and tell me that people can't remain composed in tense situations. The Policeman knowns what his job is about - he should've acted better. If he can't act better maybe he shouldn't be a policeman in the first place.

[YoungMullah88]

and ppl wonder why civilians shoot first before cooperating with the police....once again FUCK EM! hopefully the camera in the police car was running. if i was buddy on the ground, i am suing....straight to the bank

[F34R]

Did you even watch the video? There was no point at all to kick a downed man while he is about to puke. Don't defend that asshole because you are a cop. That is bullshit.

If a cop kicks me like that, I swear to god you better have your gun pulled out.

Im with Lethal, he kicked him 1st before anything happened? right?

Care to back your boy on that one Fear?!?!

I don't care how big you are compared to the guy your kicking. Kicking someone when they are down is a big no no and if your a policeman - act fucking professional. It's your duty to be composed, don't try to use a situation as an excuse to treat someone like that.

Dude was out of order, no two ways about it. You can justify it all you want, it doesn't make it right. What IF he was the wrong guy, what then?

If I replied as much as I want to, I'll be banned. So, you guys are right. This cop shouldn't do anything but wait for this guy to surrender. Let me know when any of ya'll are on duty.

[BoyBettaKnow]

Fear, it has more to do with acting correctly., Kicking someone when they are done is not acting correctly. I couldn't care less if your are a policeman - If YOU kicked someone when they are down then your a piece of scum just as the person you are arresting. Simple as that.

Probably the most insane comment in this thread.

The man was violently resisting arrest, punching, kicking, and biting at the police officer, and he was finally subdued and put handcuffs. Please explain to me precisely how you believe the cop could have possibly arrested an innocent person who violently attacked him?

Last time I checked, resisting arrest and refusing to follow a lawful order given by a police officer were both crimes.


Please explain to me how you could possibly believe this guy was innocent? Do you think the police got into this big fight with someone else, and then somehow managed to pepper spray and put handcuffs on a totally innocent passerby rather than the criminal they were fighting with?

Sorry, must've missed this bit earlier.

By what if he was innocent i meant what if he grabbed the wrong guy and started acting like that. I'm not sure what happened beforehand but what if it was a mistaken identity.

If someone tried to arrest you when you've done fuck all, wouldn't you get stressed out and start screaming your innocent and try to resist arrest or would you go down to the station willy-nilly and just accept whatever they're going to throw at you?

[F34R]

Fear, it has more to do with acting correctly., Kicking someone when they are done is not acting correctly. I couldn't care less if your are a policeman - If YOU kicked someone when they are down then your a piece of scum just as the person you are arresting. Simple as that.

Whatever. It has more to do with you don't know how to do the job. Go ahead, tickle him until he surrenders. What would you have done?

[three3-times]

If I replied as much as I want to, I'll be banned. So, you guys are right. This cop shouldn't do anything but wait for this guy to surrender. Let me know when any of ya'll are on duty.

No come on dude, say what you want, as long as you dont insult us, then bring it.

Not sure how you can justify the fact that he kicked him when he was already down and doing nothing, regardless if he is scum or not.

Sheesh, American cops!!

[BoyBettaKnow]

No. It has more to do with expecting professionalism. There was NO NEED to kick him when he was down. I've never said i know how to do the job - being a police officer is very low down on my desired job list. Of course, if that's how you want to do your job, more power to you big guy.

As i said above, this guy lost his composure and there is zero excuse for that. You can justify it and belittle me all you want. That guy was an asshole.

[F34R]

I've already explained it. Yes, my post would have been very insulting. Apparently explaining it didn't do any good, so there's no point to do it again.

I'd love to hear your explanation on how you'd have done if you were trying to arrest this guy, had already sprayed and tazed him... he still won't put his hands behind his back. Now what?

[BoyBettaKnow]

There was a large group of them at the end. I'm sure they could've subdued him, he didn't look like bruce banner or anything. But your right, the cops actions were fine. He did nothing wrong and it was all justified.

[Sub-stance1]

That kick seemed to go a bit too far IMO. I don't know what happened before the video started but he took a big risk kicking him in that part of the body. You can actually kill someone if the kick lands in the right spot. I've seen cops lose their jobs for less and this guy will probably get fired or some other punishment if he can't prove this was justified.

[three3-times]

I've already explained it. Yes, my post would have been very insulting. Apparently explaining it didn't do any good, so there's no point to do it again.

I'd love to hear your explanation on how you'd have done if you were trying to arrest this guy, had already sprayed and tazed him... he still won't put his hands behind his back. Now what?

Erm, how about dont kick him in public????!!!!!

I dont even care about the scumbag, im just trying to understand your outright defiance that this cop didnt push the limits!

[Sub-stance1]

Erm, how about dont kick him in public????!!!!!

I dont even care about the scumbag, im just trying to understand your outright defiance that this cop didnt push the limits!

With him being a cop I can understand why he feels the way he does. Its like they depend on each other to protect and defend themselves as well as the public. We have a similar rule in the military, but with both, there are always those who will fail to live up to the standards they have sworn to uphold. Its just a fact of life.