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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksite View Post
    Who says it isn't connected? Chinatown Wars takes place a year after GTA IV.
    That's what I want to find out mate.... Is it in the timeline and why does it feel like it's not
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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    That's what I want to find out mate.... Is it in the timeline and why does it feel like it's not
    Thats because it doesnt have any noticeable references to previous games.

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    It does not and you are right... But it must have something that connects it
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    It takes place in the same Liberty City. It may not feel like you're playing playing within the same universe, same goes for Grand Theft Auto Advance, because of the visuals, camera angle and certain gameplay mechanics.
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    That's a fair point.... But you see the same with the Zelda series

    Some of the games fill unconnected to the timeline and yet they are

    And its so complicated to get into....Were is the GTA timeline is straight forward

    Chinatown wars was after or during GTA IV and thats enough to say its connected. But is it
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    I was shocked to see all those updates I know this isn't the thread, but I MUST HAVE MIDNIGHT CLUB 3 AGAIN! Lol okay I'm done.

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    They are excellent games...

    But back on topic

    The timeline.... is important here, just like the Zelda timeline

    Each series has one and GTA is no different
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    Looks like the upcoming GTA V also wont have much in common with previous GTAs.

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    It will, since references will be in the game to promotion the history of the old ones
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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    It will, since references will be in the game to promotion the history of the old ones
    How do you know that?

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    It's common in all GTA games

    GTA IV had on the walls all the names of last GTA characters and paintings of vice city, GTA 3
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    The second of the three interactive showcases for Vice City:

    http://www.rockstargames.com/newswir...b-part-2-.html
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    nice one mate... I they should release these for an collection of all the old gta games

    A behind the scenes of how all the old gta games were made

    Came Across this... It's the gta timeline i was talking about and it explains enough for me to be happy

    Grand Theft Auto era

    1961





    1969



    1997



    GTA2 era

    2013



    GTA III era

    1971


    • Tommy Vercetti is ambushed by eleven hitmen in his home town Liberty City, sent by Sonny Forelli. Tommy manages to kill them all, earning him the nickname 'The Harwood Butcher', but is arrested afterwards. Tommy is sentenced to a jailtime of fifteen years and doesn't learn who ambushed him.

    1984



    1986


    • The rock band Love Fist visits Vice City. Kent Paul becomes their producer.
    • V-Rock DJ Couzin Ed gets fired and his former colleague Lazlow takes over his job.
    • The Forelli Family decides to expand its power to Vice City with drug dealing. Sonny Forelli doesn't want Tommy interfering with his business in Liberty City, so when Tommy Vercetti gets out of prison, Sonny sends him to Vice City and introduces him to Ken Rosenberg to do a drug deal with the Vance Family. Sonny's plan is to "set Tommy loose in Vice City" and take over his business.
    • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
    • The deal between The Vance Family and Tommy is ambushed by Ricardo Diaz and Harry, Lee and Victor Vance are killed. Tommy and Ken manage to escape, but they have to leave the money and drugs behind. Sonny is furious when Tommy tells him he lost both the money and drugs, but Tommy promises him he'll get his money back and he'll find the one responsible for the deal.
    • Hurricane Hermoine is heading for Vice City. Several bridges are closed out of precaution, but the hurricane does not reach the city.
    • Tommy meets Lance Vance, Victors brother, and they decide to cooperate.
    • Tommy meets Avery Carrington and his apprentice Donald Love.
    • Tommy and Lance figure out it was Diaz who ambushed the deal. Tommy does a few jobs for him to get to know his business before he kills him, but Lance attempts to kill Ricardo without Tommy. Lance failes and is kidnapped to be killed. Tommy saves him and they decide to kill Diaz together. When Diaz is dead, Tommy takes his place as don of Vice City.
    • Candy Suxxx becomes a successful porn star when Tommy hires her to work for Interglobal Films
    • Tommy plans a heist on El Banco Corrupto Grande and meets Cam Jones, Phil Cassidy and Hilary King. Hillary King dies during the heist.
    • Phil Cassidy loses his arm when his own bomb explodes right next to him.
    • Sonny Forelli and his henchmen come to Vice City to take over Tommy's business. Lance betrays tommy and chooses Sonny's side. During a gunfight between the Forelli's and Tommy, Sonny reveals his former attempt to kill Tommy. Eventually, Tommy manages to kill both Lance and Sonny.

    1987



    1992


    • Ken Rosenberg leaves a rehabilitation centre in Fort Carson. Tommy Vercetti refuses to talk to him, leaving Ken without a job.Salvatore Leone hires him to be a neutral party in a deal with a Casino between the Leone, Sindacco and Forelli Family.
    • Kent Paul and Maccer leave Salfort and head for San Andreas, where they meet The Truth
    • Jimmy Hernandez becomes the new partner of the corrupt officers Frank Tenpenny and Eddie Pulaski, and he gradually becomes involved in their criminal activities.
    • Grove Street Family members Big Smoke and Ryder decide to follow the example of the rivalling gangs and start distributing drugs, which is against the ethics of their gang. They also start working together with the archenemy of the Grove Street Families, theBallas. Naturally, they do not tell the other grove straat members of their activities.
    • Beverly Johnson is killed by the Ballas during a drive-by with a green Sabre. Her son Carl returns to Los Santos when his brother Sweet tells him what happened.
    • Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
    • CJ is framed for the murder of officer Ralph Pendelbury by Tenpenny and Pulaski when he arives in Los Santos.
    • Grove Street starts to reconquer its territory and pushes back the distribution of drugs.
    • Cesar Vialpando finds out about Big Smoke and Ryders betrayal and tells CJ. This causes CJ to be late for a shoot-out with the Ballas. Sweet is badly wounded and gets arrested. CJ is kidnapped by Tenpenny and Pulaski and is forced by them to do several jobs.
    • CJ meets Cesars cousin Catalina and together they rob a bank, liquor store, tank station and a betting shop.
    • CJ meets The Truth
    • CJ meets Wu Zi Mu, a member of the Triads
    • Catalina meets Claude and they give CJ the deed of a run-down garage in San Fierro in excange for winning a race, before leavingSan Andreas. Catalina says they're heading for Liberty City, although they won't arrive there until 2001.
    • CJ infiltrates the Loco Syndicate and kills $#@!y B., T-Bone Mendez and Ryder.
    • CJ meets Mike Toreno, although he thought he killed him. Toreno reveals he is not a member of the Loco Syndicate, but of a unspecified government agency. Toreno promises he will get Sweet out of prison if CJ helps him with a few jobs.
    • The Four Dragons Casino comes under management of the Triads.
    • Officer Hernandez realises things have gotten out of hand and he reports the crimes of C.R.A.S.H.. Tenpenny finds out and uses CJ to retrieve the file so his crimes won't come out. He hits Hernandez unconscious and leaves Pulaski to deal with CJ and Hernandez. Pulaski forces CJ to dig his and Hernandez' grave. When Pulaski wants to shoot CJ, Hernandez manage to stop him, but gets hit himself and dies. Pulaski tries to escape, but CJ goes in pursuit and kills him.
    • Toreno keeps his promise and Sweet is released from prison. He and CJ start reconquering Los Sanots.
    • Tenpenny is trialled but accused not guilty, causing riots to start in the ghetto's of Los Santos.
    • CJ breaks in Big Smoke's Crack Palace and kills Big Smoke. Tenpenny shows up, who forces CJ to fill a suitcase with money. He tries to kill CJ afterwards, but CJ tricks Tenpenny into thinking Sweet is behind him and manage to evade the bullet. Tenpenny drives away in a Fire Truck. CJ and Sweet follow him, until Tenpenny drives of the edge of a bridge and dies in the crash.

    1995


    • Toni Cipriani kills a member of a rivalling Mafia family and has to leave Liberty City for a couple of years for his own safety.

    1998


    • The construction of the Callahan Bridge and the Porter Tunnel is started.
    • Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
    • Toni Cipriani returns to Liberty City and tries to re-establish his position in the Leone Family.
    • The employees of the Ferry go on strike because they fear they will lose their jobs when the Callahan Brigde and Porter Tunnel will be finished. With the Ferry not operating and the bridge and tunnel unfinished, Portland is isolated from the rest of the city. Later, they start protesting on the Shoreside Lift Bridge, isolating both Portland and Staunton Island from the mainland.
    • Mayor Roger C. Hole is killed by Toni, in order of Salvatore Leone.
    • Miles O'Donavan is elected as the new mayor.
    • Officer Ray Machowski becomes the new partner of officer Leon McAffrey. Unlike McAffrey, Machowski is a good cop and doesn't want to get involved with McAffrey corrupt affaires.
    • Donald Love orders Toni to kill Avery Carrington, because he fears the Colombian Cartel becomes to powerful. Toni kills Carrington and steals some Panlantic construction plans.
    • Toshiko Kasen asks Toni to kill her husband Kazuki, only to commit suicide afterwards.
    • Fort Staunton, an area on Staunton Island, is destroyed by a massive explosion, due to the explosives Toni planted in a redundant subway station.
    • De strike comes to a halt.
    • May
      • The Callahan Bridge]] is finished.

    • Motorcycles are banned in Liberty City.
    • Catalina and Claude start robbing banks in Texas and New Mexico.

    2000



    2001


    • June

    • April

    • September

    • October

    • Lazlow has accepted a job as host for Chatterbox FM, after losing his job at V-Rock.
    • Grand Theft Auto III
    • Catalina betrays Claude during a bank robbery. She shoots him and leaves him for dead. Claude is arrested, recovers and sentenced to prison for ten years. Catalina stops robbing banks, turning to the dealing of SPANK instead.
    • The Colombian Cartel attacks the prison convoy to help a elderly Asian man escape. Thanks to this coincidence, 8 Ball and Claude manage to escape, too. The Cartel leaves a bomb on the Callahan Bridge to make their getaway, leaving the Callahan Bridgeseverely damaged.
    • 8 Ball helps Claude to get of the streets and introduces him to Luigi Goterelli, who is affiliated with the mafia family Leone.
    • Claude meets several other Leone's, including Joey Leone, Toni Cipriani, the don himself, Salvatore Leone, and his wife, Maria Latore
    • Under orders of Salvatore, Claude and 8 Ball blow up a boat used by the Colobian Cartel to produce SPANK.
    • Maria falls in love with Claude and tells this to Salvatore. Salvatore, already paranoid with Claude, attempts to kill Claude by sending him to pick up a rigged car. Maria warns Claude and brings him to her friend Asuka Kasen.
    • The Callahan Bridge is repaired.
    • The Staunton Lift Bridge malfunctions, isolating Staunton Island and Portland from the mainland.
    • Asuka asks Claude to kill Salvatore, to prove he has broken his ties with the mafia.
    • Claude meets Ray Machowski. Ray has changed much in three years: he is as corrupt as his partner Leon McAffrey used to be and has become incredibly paranoid.
    • Claude meets Phil, who now lives in Liberty City and claims to have lost his arm in the war in Nicaragua. Claude helps him to fend of an attack of the Colombian Cartel.
    • Ray sends Claude to kill McAffrey. Claude fails the first time, but succeeds in another attempt.
    • Claude meets Donald Love.
    • Donald Love asks Claude to kill Kenji Kasen with a Cartel Cruiser, to make the Yakuza believe it was the Colombian Cartel.
    • The Staunton Lift Bridge is repaired and the last segment of the Porter Tunnel is completed.
    • Claude encounters Catalina and Miguel when he is retrieving a package for Donald Love. Catalina escapes, leaving Miguel behind. Miguel is captured by Asuka and Maria, who tortures him because she thinks the Colombian Cartel killed her brother. She interrogates him during the torture.
    • Donald Love leaves the city without a trace.
    • Asuka and Miguel are killed when the Colombian Cartel when they discover their hide-out. A note from Catalina tells Claude she has kidnapped Maria, and that he has to pay ransom if he wants to see her again.
    • Claude pays the ransom, but Catalina orders Claude to be killed and leaves with a helicopter. Claude escapes and goes in pursuit. He follows the chopper to the Cochrane Dam, where he kills several Colombians. He eventually shoots the helicopter down with arocket launcher, killing Catalina.
    • Claude supposedly kills Maria when she keeps on nagging.


    GTA IV era


    1998 (GTA IV canon)



    2008





    http://en.wikigta.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Grand_Theft_Auto_series


    This other timeline, goes deeper into the series

    from the GTA III ERA

    GTA III Era Timeline

    The following is a timeline of events in the canon of the Grand Theft Auto III era, in the order which they occurred. Note that the article does not include events from Grand Theft Auto, Grand Theft Auto: London 1969/Grand Theft Auto: London 1961, Grand Theft Auto 2or the Grand Theft Auto IV era, because they are confirmed not to take place in the same canon.
    Timeline

    Pre-1900


    • 1798: Liberty City is founded, according to the 200th anniversary of the city in 1998 in Liberty City Stories, 22 years after the declaration of independence from the United States.
    • 1835: Earth begins its existence according to the Epsilon Program.[1]
    • 1842: The 66th Cavalry under Colonel Henry Bolt left their base in Fort Carson to head to Las Barrancas to heed the calls of homesteaders as bandits attacked. The entire force fell down a hole whilst running to the nearby Las Barrancas. The hole then took the name of the "Barrancas Mass Grave".
    • 1869: Is the year Tentative of the founding of Liberty City Police Department. This date is derived from the insignia of the Department where you can see at a glance the number 1869.





    1910s



    1920s



    1930s



    1940s



    1950s



    1960s



    1970s


    • 1970: The rock radio station K-DST started broadcasting in San Andreas, the data obtained from radio slogan that reads: "There are radios that promulgate drugs and women, but we have been doing well for 22 years." (GTA: San Andreas takes place in 1992.)



    1980s




    • 1981: Wave 103, a new wave radio station, broadcasts its first show in Vice City.
    • 1981: The Florida secessionist movement begins.
    • 1981: Evacuator, a film starring Jack Howitzer, premieres and is shown nation wide.
    • 1981: Kent Paul is arrested in Kent, England after smashing Mark Cosgrove's car (after Cosgrove stole Kentís girlfriend May).
    • 1982: Kent Paul leaves England for Florida.
    • 1982: Cluckin' Bell begins operations in America. [3]
    • 1982: Barry Stark stops wearing clothes.
    • Mid 1980s: Salvatore Leone takes control of the Leone Family after a bloody conflict in Sicily. A brother of Salvatore's is believed to be involved in the conflict.


    • 1984: The events of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories take place in the middle of summer.
    • 1984: Hurricane Gordy heads for Vice City, but bypasses the state.
    • 1984: The car company Maibatsu releases a new sports car called the Thunder.
    • 1984: Local radio station V-Rock intern Lazlow goes to a school out of Vice City to learn how to be a DJ. In the next year or two, the station fires DJ Cousin Ed and when the station becomes more successful, Lazlow is nationally famous.
    • 1984-1985: Maurice Chavez has a baby with Michelle Montanius.
    • 1985: The Home Degenatron games console is released.
    • 1985: Giggle Cream is released with the slogan "Make Desserts Funny".
    • 1985: Jack Howitzer is nominated for an Oscar, but does not win the award.
    • 1985: Jenny Louise Crab was named Vice City's civilian of the year
    • 1986: The events of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City take place, in summer.
    • Victor Vance is killed during drug exchange at Vice Port and Lance is killed not long after by Tommy Vercetti.
    • 1986: After Sonny Forelli's death, Franco Forelli is the new head of the Forelli crime family in Liberty City.
    • 1986: Hurricane Hermione devastates 4 Caribbean islands, and approaches Vice City but safely bypasses.
    • Unknown (1986-1992): Ken Rosenberg is disbarred from the law and goes to rehab in Las Venturas for his cocaine addiction. By the time he is released in 1992, Tommy Vercetti has stopped associating with him.
    • Unknown (1986-1992): Lazlow is fired from his radio DJ job at V-Rock, later to become a talk show host onEntertaining America in 1992.
    • 1987: After Carl Johnson is blamed for letting his brother Brian Johnson die, he moves from his hometown ofLos Santos to Liberty City, later to work for Joey Leone in a stolen car ring. Meanwhile, the trend of crack cocaine empowers the Ballas and Vagos street gangs, weakening Grove Street Families who refuse to sell it.Seville andTemple factions also divide from Grove and begin a three-way feud; according to Big Smoke, "Seville wrongs Temple, Temple wrongs Grove, bad blood leads to bad blood".


    • 1987: Giggle Cream is withdrawn from the market two years after being released.
    • 1987: Blox is withdrawn from the market and is used as an American defense strategy.
    • 1987: Swapmeet, a sitcom, premieres.
    • 1988: A pollution leak occurs in Liberty City, presumably with some harmful effects as a government body report stated: "This spill is nowhere near as serious as the pollution leak of 1988, so I donít know why people are complaining".
    • 1989: A damaging earthquake strikes the San Fierro district of Doherty, levelling buildings and collapsing a section of a double decker freeway.

    1990s




    • 1992: Kent Paul becomes the manager of the Gurning Chimps and proposes the band goes to America. The lead member, Maccer, is excited at this prospect.
    • 1992: Paulie andJohnny Sindacco, Salvatore Leone and the Forelli Brothers form a truce and business partnership in Caligula's Casino, an impressive corporate-scale Las Venturas hotel and casino. Ken Rosenberg, only days out of rehab, is chosen as their middle man.
    • 1992: Mayor Roger C. Hole is first elected into City Hall.
    • 1992: A large earthquake rattles the State of San Andreas, prompting the closure of inter-county bridges throughout the state.
    • 1992: The events of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas take place during winter.
    • 1992: The sitcom My Five Uncles premieres, replacing the cancelled sitcom Just the Five of Us, which starredJimmy and Claude Maginot. Both shows aired Friday on VBS. Jimmy is arrested the same year, in possession of cocaine with several prostitutes at the Four Dragons Casino in Las Venturas (while being interviewed by WCTR news' Richard Burns at the child actor convention).
    • 1993: The infamous million dollar lunch incident takes place in Liberty City, in which Mayor Roger C. Hole, three Russian prostitutes and a senior manager from a construction company were caught attempting to secure government contracts.
    • 1994: Madd Dogg releases an album entitled N.L.A.D.B. (Never Leave A Dogg Behind), which is poorly received and directs him to retire. Rochellíle releases an album called Dangerous Curves before her career spirals downward as well.
    • 1994: Toni Cipriani kills a made man for the Leone Family, forcing him to go into hiding outside the country.
    • 1994: Ohio State sues Cluckin' Bell over the side effects of their meals, which includes mammary gland swelling, although no link could be proven. [5]
    • 1995: Liberty City Mayor Roger C. Hole is photographed having lunch with Franco Forelli.
    • 1996: Believed to be when Yakuza leader, Kenji Kasen, first arrives in America.
    • 1997: El Burro, a prominent porn star since 1986, is placed under investigation by the LCPD because of the leadership position he allegedly holds with the Diablos street gang.
    • 1997: The "Hong Kong Handover" takes place in Liberty City, resulting in a massive influx of Chinese Triadactivity.
    • 1997: Liberty City mayor Roger C. Hole is accused of securing drugs for city officials in exchange for sanitation contracts.
    • 1997: Zaibatsu Pharmaceuticals, unveiled their new wonder drug, Equanox. Zaibatsu are claiming that Equanox will combat lethargy, depression, melancholy, sexual dysfunction and allows you to see your environment very slow.
    • 1997: Car jacking in Liberty City is at an all time high.
    • 1997: The FBI makes false allegations against Liberty City businessman Barry Harcross, who also had offices in Colombia. The charges were that of money laundering and buying more than flowers from his Colombian office. This may suggest links to the Colombian Cartel gang.
    • 1997: The first known usage of the drug SPANK takes place in Liberty City.
    • 1997: The American Road Safety for Everybody (A.R.S.E.) Group starts a protest to ban motorcycles from Liberty City.
    • 1997: A protest is started to take Swampmeet, off the air before the premiere of it's 9th season.
    • 1997: The Pilgrim's Pantry opens.
    • 1997: RAILS, a breakfast cereal that you snort, goes under an FDA Scrutiny.
    • 1997: Mayor Roger C. Hole opens up an absolute legal killing mayhem for a week in honor of his 59th birthday celebration.
    • 1998: The events of Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories takes place during the autumn.
    • 1998: Jesus Max Sentenz founds the new vigilante group Avenging Angels. They become defunct by 2001.
    • 1998-2001: Big Shot Casino is renamed Kenji's Casino, still controlled by the Kasen Yakuza and renamed for Kenji Kasen, the new waka gashira (second-in-command, likely under his father in Japan) of the Yakuza.
    • 1998-2001: Donald Love avoids the Columbian Cartel by living on a yacht in the Carribean, and his investments make him a billionaire.
    • 1998-2001: Toni Cipriani's apartment building in Saint Mark's is destroyed, and the portion of the street directly west is damaged. Cipriani moves into his family's restaurant with his mother.
    • 1998-2001: The Jefferson Street Credit Union Building construction work is finished, making it the tallest building in Liberty City. The Callahan Bridge construction is also completed.
    • 1998-2001: Liberty City radio stations LCFR and Radio Del Mundo are shut down. In addition to most of the DJs from those stations, radio DJs Boy Sanchez, Cliff Lane and Natalie Walsh Davis are all fired. Gardening With Maurice is taken off the air for claiming the possibility of cross breeding a peach and a Pekingese midget.
    • 1999: The car company Maibatsu comes out with a 12 seat SUV called the Maibatsu Monstrosity. The car is advertised having a submarine feature.

    2000s


    • 2000: The events of Grand Theft Auto Advance take place.
    • 2001 (February): Barry Harcross is cleared of all the allegations dating back to 1997 and returns to Liberty City. Newly-elected president George W. Bush announces plans to visit Liberty City and improve Francis International Airport.
    • 2001 (March): The license for the Red Light District in Portland, Liberty City is up for renewal, with Mayor Miles O'Donovan planning to revamp the area to compete with Amsterdam, Bangkok and Baghdad, although a report states that there is no tourist industry in Liberty City. Winston Cole confirms that the Porter Tunnel project is behind schedule and will be finished within six months (October).
    • 2001 (April): A report is released stating that the pollution from a recent oil spill in the Liberty City Harbour (presumably the Portland Docks on Portland) will not effect the residents of Portland. Salvatore Leone walks free from court with only a $450,000 fine for illegally importing tomato sauce from the docks in Portland, Liberty City. He had been on charges of racketeering and tax evasion.
    • 2001 (May): Cheung Industries of Shanghai, a Chinese company, expands into Liberty City with a mackerel factory in Callahan Point, Portland. Mayor Miles O'Donovan denies he has misused government funds to support a nail gun business.
    • 2001 (June-July): Donald Love purchases Chatterbox FM, hiring Lazlow to host a month later. All senior members of the Leone Family are under investigation. Liberty Tree states that killer bees are not a threat to Liberty City.
    • 2001 (August): Leon McAffrey, once the most powerful crooked cop in Liberty City, snitches on his traineeRay Machowski (and his connection to Yakuza) to gain a dishonorable discharge instead of prison time.
    • 2001 (October): 8-Ball is sentenced to a long stint in jail after being convicted on 85 counts of owning a gun without a license. The Oriental Gentlemen arrives in Liberty City, and is quickly arrested for not providing a valid reason for being in America. The authorities begin plans to deport him. The dog ban in Liberty City is upheld.
    • 2001 (October):


    • Grand Theft Auto III takes place in the fall, Catalina and Claude arrive in Liberty City, having left the state of San Andreas nine years previously. The two rob a bank, however, Catalina shoots Claude, leaving him for dead, before speeding off with high ranking Colombian Cartel gangster Miguel.
    • Claude is later arrested and recovers from his gunshot wound. He is convicted but escapes when being transfered from Staunton Island to Portland Island when the Colombian Cartel attack the police convoy. They kidnap the Old Oriental Gentleman and, in the confusion, Claude and another prisoner, later identified as 8-Ball manage to escape and avoid the shock waves of a bomb left by the Cartel.
    • Claude and 8-Ball escape to a safehouse and change out of their prison clothes, before driving to Luigi's Sex Club 7. 8-Ball convinces the clubs owner, Leone Family made man Luigi Goterelli, to give Claude a chance and he has him drive Misty from the hospital back to the club.
    • Claude continues to work for Goterelli, who later introduces him to Joey Leone, who has him stir up tensions between the Leone Family and both theForelli Family and theTriads. Joey later introduces Claude to Toni Cipriani, the right hand man of the Don, who has Claude continue working in the ongoing troubles with the Triads.
    • Claude also begins working for factory manager Marty Chonks and Diablos leader El Burro.
    • Claude is later introduced to the head of the Leone Family, Salvatore Leone, who is keen on tackling the Colombian Cartel's rising power base and has him team with 8-Ball to destroy a freighter used to manufacture the drug SPANK.
    • Claude was later called to Salvatore's home and has him drive to move a car from Chinatown before the police discovers its contents. Claude, however, receives a message on his pager from Maria Latore, the Don's wife, who tells him to go to a small dock, where she explains the situation, that she had told Salvatore they were an item and that he'd had a car bomb planted in the car. The two, with Yakuza co-leader Asuka Kasen then escape to Staunton Island by boat.
    • Claude, in an attempt to prove himself to Asuka, returns to Portland Island and kills Salvatore Leone as he leaves Luigi's Sex Club 7. He then continues to work for Asuka, protecting her from the paparazzi and anundercover policeman. She then introduces him to her brother and co-leader Kenji and the crooked policeman Ray Machowski.
    • Claude works for Kenji and helps him maintain his honour, including bustingKanbu out of prison andambushing a deal between the Colombian Cartel and the Uptown Yardies. Claude also begins to work for corrupt policeman Ray Machowski, attempting to cover up his dealings with the Yakuza, including killinghis partner and killing his former partner partner.
    • Claude then briefly works for King Courtney, leader of the Uptown Yardies, before he is betrayed when the Cartel succeed in forming an alliance with the Yardies.
    • Media mogul Donald Love contacts Claude and employs him to rescue the Old Oriental Gentleman, who was in the police convoy with him and helps Love with his business interests, including defending aSecuricar from the Cartel. Love also has him kill his former boss Kenji Kasen in an attempt to drive down property prices. Love, however, disappears without a trace (most likely Killed by the Yakuza for his for Kenji).
    • Claude also begins working for D-Ice, leader of the Southside Hoods sub-sect
    • Asuka Kasen, following the death of her brother, becomes enraged and manages to capture Miguel, Cartel leader Catalina's right hand man. She begins to torture him and uses the information to have Claude attack the Cartel and their businesses interests. This results in her death at the hands of Catalina, who also kills Miguel and kidnaps Maria. Claude later rescues Maria and kills Catalina. Claude and Maria begin to walk away from Cochrane Dam, where the final battle between Claude and Catalina took place, and he fires a gun, which may have been intended to make her stop talking or to kill her.
    • Deaths



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    http://gta.wikia.com/GTA_III_Era_Timeline

    [spoiler]1880s



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    1990s



    2000s


    • 2000: Mr. McReary commits suicide. The Irish Mob leaves Purgatory and settles in Dukes.
    • 2001 (September 11): The 9/11 attacks occured. The attacks are frequently mentioned, especially in political atmospheres like Weazel News.
    • 2003 (March 20 - May 1): The US first invades Iraq - this conflict is mentioned in GTA IV.
    • 2007: Ray Bulgarin trying to kill Niko Bellic, after one of the operations is failed.




    1. Angels in America, No Love Lost and It's War all take place in that chronological order, when Jason Michaelsis killed. In addition, It's War takes place around the same time or shortly after Roman's Sorrow, according to internet news.
    2. Blow Your Cover and Buyer's Market are one event.
    3. Three Leaf Clover and I Luv LC take place on the same day, when a bank is robbed.
    4. This $#@!'s Cursed takes place very shortly after Chinese Takeout, as during the latter Billy Grey arranges theTriad ambush on Johnny.
    5. Tom Goldberg is killed before Hit the Pipe, according to internet news.
    6. Roman's Holiday takes place very shortly before Hostile Negotiation; Roman Bellic is kidnapped, and is then saved by his cousin.
    7. Frosting On The Cake and Diamonds in the Rough are one event, and both right before Taking in the Trash.
    8. It's hinted during Not So Fast (when Gracie doesn't call Tony back) that I'll Take Her occurs in betweenFrosting On The Cake / Diamonds in the Rough (same event) and the diamond deal mentioned below. It also places the kidnapping shortly after Taking in the Trash from Niko's perspective.
    9. Museum Piece, Collector's Item and Not So Fast, the infamous diamond deal, and are all one event.
    10. No Way on the Subway takes place during Was It Worth It?, when Jim Fitzgerald is killed.
    11. Ladies' Night happens in between Ransom (because Tony is forwarded the photo) and She's a Keeper(because Gracie is at the original hideout).
    12. Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend and Ladies Half Price are one event.
    13. Dimitri Rascalov is killed before Departure Time.


    • 2008 (October 3): The US government spends $700 billion to bail out several major banks, which Gay Tonybriefly mentions in the mission I Luv LC.
    • 2009: The events of GTA Chinatown Wars take place. The GTA IV timeline may also go into early 2009 as many of the songs from EFLC are from 2009.



    This above is the GTA IV ERA timeline and this will involve all gta games that will be created after GTA IV...

    http://gta.wikia.com/GTA_IV_Timeline

    you can go to the site and learn more about each character
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    could a mod fix the double spoiler tags for me please
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    I read on Steam that the team which developed Mafia 2 is helping Rockstar with GTA V.

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    Man no shocker there.

    Just hope they leave out speeding tickets, lmao
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    This is just a fake pic
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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    This is just a fake pic
    Its an artwork done by a designer from DeviantArt.

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    Ok cool... So it's an up to date vice city, makes sense

    But I still think it's to small.. If they do V.C again, then it would have to equal the size of GTA V
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    Quote Originally Posted by claud3 View Post
    Ok cool... So it's an up to date vice city, makes sense

    But I still think it's to small.. If they do V.C again, then it would have to equal the size of GTA V
    Well I wouldnt be so sure. A big city or map isnt really that big of an neccessety. Ofcourse it should be reinnovative and have a decent size and many features but the size of the map shouldnt really increase with every game.

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    You could be right... The size of the city is important, but features are important to
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    Oh please let it true, I LOVED Bully! Real shame they don't port the 360 version, but whatevs, beggars can't be choosers. I loved Bully because it was set in school and we could all relate (more or less) through the experience of what goes in that game. It didn't have as much options as San Andreas in terms of what you can do, but it still kept me coming back even after I finished the story. I loved the musical score and the level design and atmosphere of that game, it got me addicted.

    I dunno about you guys, but I have this weird thing when it comes to movies and games, if the environment or level or shooting location looks really beautiful, I tend to enjoy the movie and game a lot more. That's why I loved San Andreas, a big part of that was the orange-red tint in the sky and the look of the place. I love it when developers take their time with cities and getting the right feel of it.

    But I hope Bully comes to the PSN store, because it will be a day one purchase. And I'm still waiting on BULLY 2!!! Is that still being made? Or is it put on hold?!


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    Quote Originally Posted by DreDayDetox View Post
    Oh please let it true, I LOVED Bully! Real shame they don't port the 360 version, but whatevs, beggars can't be choosers. I loved Bully because it was set in school and we could all relate (more or less) through the experience of what goes in that game. It didn't have as much options as San Andreas in terms of what you can do, but it still kept me coming back even after I finished the story. I loved the musical score and the level design and atmosphere of that game, it got me addicted.

    I dunno about you guys, but I have this weird thing when it comes to movies and games, if the environment or level or shooting location looks really beautiful, I tend to enjoy the movie and game a lot more. That's why I loved San Andreas, a big part of that was the orange-red tint in the sky and the look of the place. I love it when developers take their time with cities and getting the right feel of it.

    But I hope Bully comes to the PSN store, because it will be a day one purchase. And I'm still waiting on BULLY 2!!! Is that still being made? Or is it put on hold?!
    http://www.psu.com/forums/showthread...s-PS2-Classics

    And the PS2 version is superior. Renderware > buggy Gamebryo.
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    LOL, I can imagine how mindfucked and happy DreDayDetox is xD

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