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    Question: Do you think Wii u will be worth its rumored price point of $400.00

    several sites have been advertising the wii u at any where from 269.99 to 400.00 do you think it will oust family's because of it's huge rumored price point the controller alone because it has a amd processor has to be expensive at a rumored 70 to 80 dollars for the controller alone and if games utilize more then one tablet could you imagine spending 400.00 more for controllers.


    After seeing all the rumors and getting a chance to see one in action soon at a exclusive event i am looking forward to his event because i want to see the console try it touch it and play with it but if it's only nintendo games on display i am not interrested because the idea of a event is two show what the console can do with real games not kiddie garbage i'm hoping nintendo also learned there lesson and removed secure media from the console because we all know that secure media is responsible for the wii getting hacked and destroying the online play on the wii with cheaters and hacks which is not cool for anyone

    What i am looking forward to at this event.

    1. alien colonial marines - the radar system for your gun is on the touch tablet controller which might be awesome..

    if it's not there then sega and nintendo just failed on a epic level!!!!

    Also i want to know real price if you charge to much for the console not interresting for me to fork out 400.00 for a wii with a hd upgrade what do you think.

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    I don't know. I was SUPER excited for the Wii U pre E3. We were getting comments from Gearbox and other studios saying that the Wii U version of their games would be definitive version graphically speaking. Of course the control pad also offered something unique but then a few things dawned on me...the E3 presser for Nintny showed the same $#@!ing. old. tired. franchises that looked as if they should have been on the Wii. Is this what their first party content is going to consist of? 2D $#@!ing mario games? If Nintendo thought that their presser is how you deal with an HD console then they are more clueless than I thought. Also, as soon as next gen roles around Wii U'S 3rd party content will be gimped. It will either receive dumbed down ports or it won't get the games art all. Nintendo $#@!ed up in this regard, they should have had the balls to launch a real next gen console. I don't see any value in their console for these reasons. I still haven't ruled it out for a later purchase IF they release 1st party content that doesn't star that short fat $#@! of an ugly plumber or any of the other childish characters they have. Mature (and NEW) content or $#@! off. $400?

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    I'm kind of undecided. At first, like Ghost-Rhayne said, I was excited for it but with all we've seen I don't believe that it will be worth my investment. If they one day end up with a line-up of JRPG's like the Wii is doing now, then they'll definitely get my money. But that won't happen for a while and until then, pricing might drop. Still, $400 is quite a lot for what it's rumored to have.

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    No way. Definitely not worth $400. At very most, $300.

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    According to XE $400 is equal to £251.45

    For that price I think it is worth it for a new console.

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    As much as I love Nintendo, that would be too much for me. I've always said $300, maybe $350 is the max I'd spend on the console. But for what it's worth, most rumors I've seen have it priced at $300 more than $400.
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    Depends on the 'rumored price point' you're targeting for one and how you qualify 'worth it'.

    My 2cents is, like most Nintendo products, it isn't worth anywhere near what you shell out for it. Antiquated technology paired with a gimmick and a stable of first party games to make it seem worth the cost they're demanding.


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    Anything more than $299.99 and the U is DOA..

    The goal of the wii u is to give you a slightly upgraded experience compared to current consoles while being similar and price (undercutting the other next gen consoles)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    Depends on the 'rumored price point' you're targeting for one and how you qualify 'worth it'.

    My 2cents is, like most Nintendo products, it isn't worth anywhere near what you shell out for it. Antiquated technology paired with a gimmick and a stable of first party games to make it seem worth the cost they're demanding.
    The SNES and N64 were well worth their price points? Nintendo historically has already had the lowest entry points? What was the gimmicks on the NES, SNES, Gameboy, N64, and Gamecube? Wii Had motion controllers first now everyone does im sure the same will happen with the Wii U tablet controller.

    So in short I don't see anything accurate in your post MOST Nintendo Consoles are gimmicky because they aren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeviousOne View Post
    The SNES and N64 were well worth their price points? Nintendo historically has already had the lowest entry points? What was the gimmicks on the NES, SNES, Gameboy, N64, and Gamecube? Wii Had motion controllers first now everyone does im sure the same will happen with the Wii U tablet controller.
    I didn't say 'all'. DS, 3DS, Wii, WiiU..

    I'm cool with Nintendo products prior. Perhaps 'most' was too broad. When I said that I was thinking of the past 8 years or w\e.

    And just because your entry point is lower than the competition doesn't mean you're automatically a good buy. The Wii, for example, was using grossly outdated technology when it hit the streets (especially compared to its competition) and still demanded a fairly high price. But because it had this mostly accurate motion sensing controller and Mario it was 'worth the price'.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    I didn't say 'all'. DS, 3DS, Wii, WiiU..

    I'm cool with Nintendo products prior. Perhaps 'most' was too broad. When I said that I was thinking of the past 8 years or w\e.

    And just because your entry point is lower than the competition doesn't mean you're automatically a good buy. The Wii, for example, was using grossly outdated technology when it hit the streets (especially compared to its competition) and still demanded a fairly high price. But because it had this mostly accurate motion sensing controller and Mario it was 'worth the price'.
    I cant see the DS as gimmicky when the bottom screen is important to gameplay one game that uses it Ive played was the Mario & Luigi rpg's the word Gimmick by definition in this scenario would be having a feature for the sake of having it? However if its a part of gameplay which in most games it is with the DS and Wii.... (cant say Wii U havent played a full game on it) then its not a gimmicky item. Especially wireless motion controls since all consoles now have it. THE ONLY GIMMICK console is the 3ds i never use the 3d feature on it so ill give you that one and while you didnt say ALL you said MOST which would be more than 50% of Nintendo Consoles obviously thats not the case and the only gimmick Nintendo has truly release was this 3ds feature on the 3ds.

    Labeling an other console gimmicky is spoken from lack of knowledge on Nintendo products or playing them. Also the Wii would be your ONLY example of a Nintendo product being underpowered it you look at their other home Consoles they were always more powerful than sony consoles.

    The Wii was 249.99 PS3 and xbox were over 500 bucks. I think pricing is a huge deal when it comes to launching a console look at the OYUA its 99 bucks built on a 32 but architecture in 2012 and its kick start took off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post
    I didn't say 'all'. DS, 3DS, Wii, WiiU..

    I'm cool with Nintendo products prior. Perhaps 'most' was too broad. When I said that I was thinking of the past 8 years or w\e.

    And just because your entry point is lower than the competition doesn't mean you're automatically a good buy. The Wii, for example, was using grossly outdated technology when it hit the streets (especially compared to its competition) and still demanded a fairly high price. But because it had this mostly accurate motion sensing controller and Mario it was 'worth the price'.
    It's all about perception. You saw it as outdated tech being expensive. I saw it as cheap for a new console. I, like the majority of consumers at the time, didn't have an HD TV. So even though you could still get great graphics from the PS3/360, I couldn't take full advantage of it. Nintendo has the track record for proven first party titles, and I knew from that standpoint, it would be worth it. But I also got loads of fun from many 3rd party titles as well. I wasn't playing all the popular titles that so many others were playing, but there were great games on the console. You just had to look for them thru all the crap titles that got released for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeviousOne View Post
    I cant see the DS as gimmicky when the bottom screen is important to gameplay one game that uses it Ive played was the Mario & Luigi rpg's the word Gimmick by definition in this scenario would be having a feature for the sake of having it? However if its a part of gameplay which in most games it is with the DS and Wii.... (cant say Wii U havent played a full game on it) then its not a gimmicky item. Especially wireless motion controls since all consoles now have it. THE ONLY GIMMICK console is the 3ds i never use the 3d feature on it so ill give you that one and while you didnt say ALL you said MOST which would be more than 50% of Nintendo Consoles obviously thats not the case and the only gimmick Nintendo has truly release was this 3ds feature on the 3ds.

    Labeling an other console gimmicky is spoken from lack of knowledge on Nintendo products or playing them. Also the Wii would be your ONLY example of a Nintendo product being underpowered it you look at their other home Consoles they were always more powerful than sony consoles.

    The Wii was 249.99 PS3 and xbox were over 500 bucks. I think pricing is a huge deal when it comes to launching a console look at the OYUA its 99 bucks built on a 32 but architecture in 2012 and its kick start took off.
    >>Implies I haven't played Nintendo products or own a Wii.

    >>Implies that the Xbox 360 cost 500 USD at launch in the US*. Ignores the actual price of 400 USD for the regular edition and a 300 USD price for core.

    >>Core model only costs $50 more than souped up Gamecube with motion based controllers.


    *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_launch



    Yes, 'gimmick' is subjective. But it is undeniable that in recent years Nintendo has sought unorthodox methods in order to distinguish itself from the heavy tech hitters because that is a fight it does not want to get involved in.

    Nintendo hardware is not all that sophisticated or costly to produce. Yet the asking price for them is always way up there with the exponentially more sophisticated offerings by competitors. Like the insane entry point cost of the 3DS, how the Wii was really only 50$ shy of the 360 Core model, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgotha View Post

    Yes, 'gimmick' is subjective. But it is undeniable that in recent years Nintendo has sought unorthodox methods in order to distinguish itself from the heavy tech hitters because that is a fight it does not want to get involved in.

    Nintendo hardware is not all that sophisticated or costly to produce. Yet the asking price for them is always way up there with the exponentially more sophisticated offerings by competitors. Like the insane entry point cost of the 3DS, how the Wii was really only 50$ shy of the 360 Core model, etc.
    Your referring to a home console being sophisticated tech is laughable to say the least. Even next gen PS4 or Xbox isnt going to be anywhere close to high end PC. Even when Nintendo did offer what you would consider "high end tech" or "powerful" consoles there entry price was below or the same as their competitors. Nintendo is usually the cheapest when it comes to entry price core xbox was 300 with no game so it be a little closer to 400 with a game Wii came packed in with a game for 249.99. Still the cheapest entry into the next gen and games like Super Mario Galaxy make this HP argument irrelevant.

    Im pretty sure they aren't going to make the same mistake with the Wii U as the 3ds or one can hope at the end of the day Numbers tell a very different story than most gamers out there would like to believe in their own worlds you know that PS2 and on world and completely ignore the history of the industry not directed at anyone just incase someone wants to assume their feelings were hurt =)...

    Can See the Wii U being more than 300 even at 300 it would be the most expensive Nintendo console at launch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeviousOne View Post
    Your referring to a home console being sophisticated tech is laughable to say the least. Even next gen PS4 or Xbox isnt going to be anywhere close to high end PC. Even when Nintendo did offer what you would consider "high end tech" or "powerful" consoles there entry price was below or the same as their competitors. Nintendo is usually the cheapest when it comes to entry price core xbox was 300 with no game so it be a little closer to 400 with a game Wii came packed in with a game for 249.99. Still the cheapest entry into the next gen and games like Super Mario Galaxy make this HP argument irrelevant.

    Im pretty sure they aren't going to make the same mistake with the Wii U as the 3ds or one can hope at the end of the day Numbers tell a very different story than most gamers out there would like to believe in their own worlds you know that PS2 and on world and completely ignore the history of the industry not directed at anyone just incase someone wants to assume their feelings were hurt =)...

    Can See the Wii U being more than 300 even at 300 it would be the most expensive Nintendo console at launch.
    You're illustrating how little you know about hardware and embedded systems in general.

    You're comparing open, customizable, platforms like the PC to static hardware engineered ground up to be sold as one special configuration to each other on price points.

    Yes a high end custom PC will cost alot more than a Xbox 720/PS4, but shockingly you'll get more performance per dollar out of those closed boxes and silicon then you will your custom rig. I would know because I built my own PC that I have now.

    12GB of DDR3 triple channel Corsair Vengeance Ram, i7 Quad, GTX670 FTW edition and 1TB hard drive packs alot of punch.

    But I don't have any delusions that if I were to try and run some of the games that will release with the new Xbox it would make my computer groan (hypothetically if they hit STEAM). More fairly, I suppose I should say a 2nd generation game from the consoles would be a more valid example.

    Anyway, point is a game built ground up on a custom engineered box whose sole job is to basically play a video game is going to go alot farther performance wise then a PC title that has to hit lowest common denominators and go through various abstraction layers, work with a wide variety of hardware, OS's, screen resolutions, etc etc.

    tldr; Consoles far and away more closely hit their theoretical limits than PC's do.

    But this is all immaterial to this discussion. The Wii, like the WiiU are grossly underpowered pieces of kit. Rumors peg the WiiU at being a bit more powerful than the 360. In the year of 2012 that is just a tiny bit pathetic when you consider that handhelds (like the Vita) are already 'in the ball park' of home console performance. This gap will invariably close as time rolls on. Hell, Nintendo didn't even BREAK 100MB of RAM in any of their devices until the 3DS hit the market.

    Whereas the PS3 and 360 shipped with 512MB of it years ago. As one example.
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    This is what I know its about the games always has been and will always been that way. Nintendo has a chance to take this next gen just like this current gen. We can spend all day on tech talk no console will be cutting edge tech or the most powerful "gaming" option.

    On a business side of it they can't not release a 400 dollar console let the other guys take loses on their hardware and charge more. 299.99 would be perfect and we should know everything by sept 13th..

    I was at gamestop earlier today still nothing on a release date but they did should me a release date on some of the games on their system its saying 11/14 at the moment but no info on the system itself

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    If it has the muscle and content, it would be worth the $400 for me.




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    If it has the muscle and content, it would be worth the $400 for me.
    If it came packaged with 2 pro controllers, gamepad, and pack in game (nintendo land) it be worth it but I doubt that be the case

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeviousOne View Post
    If it came packaged with 2 pro controllers, gamepad, and pack in game (nintendo land) it be worth it but I doubt that be the case
    That's kinda what I meant lol. I didn't put an "S" on "content".




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    Quote Originally Posted by F34R View Post
    That's kinda what I meant lol. I didn't put an "S" on "content".
    LOL

    The Content will be there for me personally i would like to have 2 pro controllers and 2 gamepads for it when i pick it up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeviousOne View Post
    LOL

    The Content will be there for me personally i would like to have 2 pro controllers and 2 gamepads for it when i pick it up...
    That's gonna run ya a pretty penny lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaY_210 View Post
    That's gonna run ya a pretty penny lol
    Or is it? LOL We dont know but Ive said this months ago i have a 600 to 700 bucks im willing to spend on Wii U (including games and accessories) Ive seen a story on IGN with different SKU's one that was 249.99 one that was 299.99 and one that was 349.99 So we'll see 7 days from now

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