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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wya4XhTPMcc&feature=plcp

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxYkNUyBhS4&feature=plcp

    so far I blame dvd 9, and because it is multiplat konami didn't want to pay royalties for dual disks.
    Last edited by Chulo; 09-09-2012 at 20:47.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chulo View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wya4XhTPMcc&feature=plcp

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxYkNUyBhS4&feature=plcp

    so far I blame dvd 9, and because it is multiplat konami didn't want to pay royalties for dual disks.
    Well that's nice theory, but its complete bull$#@!. There is no royalty for dual discs.

    And they had no problem doing it for MGS:HD

    In all honesty they probably have no source code for the game.

    They didn't have the full code for SH2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Well that's nice theory, but its complete bull$#@!. There is no royalty for dual discs.

    And they had no problem doing it for MGS:HD

    In all honesty they probably have no source code for the game.

    They didn't have the full code for SH2.
    http://www.shacknews.com/article/539...look-worse-on#

    according to john carmack dev's/publishers pay royalty fees if it's more then one disk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chulo View Post
    http://www.shacknews.com/article/539...look-worse-on#

    according to john carmack dev's/publishers pay royalty fees if it's more then one disk.
    http://www.shacknews.com/article/547...illits-on-rage

    Really, this was cleared up within days of the first miss-communication, but it still does the rounds.

    I have no idea how you guys continue to beleive these myths.

    Hey and rage looked worse on 360?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    http://www.shacknews.com/article/547...illits-on-rage

    Really, this was cleared up within days of the first miss-communication, but it still does the rounds.

    I have no idea how you guys continue to beleive these myths.

    Hey and rage looked worse on 360?
    I just picked an article where he was quoted about the royalties.
    please do not let the rest of the article deceive you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chulo View Post
    I just picked an article where he was quoted about the royalties.
    please do not let the rest of the article deceive you.
    I know, but it was still wrong. Carmack is a programmer not a business man, willets does the business side of the company, and he cleared this up pretty quick.

    Microsoft has not and never has charged per disc royalties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    Oh absolutely, Konamis Collections have been pathetic which is why I haven't bought any of them. They should have at least put Origins in the SH Collection but they could easily have fit 2, 3, 4 and Origins and maybe Shattered Memories.
    I'm sure I've discussed this with you before, but MGSCollection is top tier, up there with the best, but it was done by Bluepoint who has done GOW,ICO/Shadow etc
    Konami should have just used them for Silent Hill too
    As for games on disc, isn't MGSHD 22GB on the PS store?
    Thou it does have DD & DTS I believe

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    It sucks they left Silent Hill 4 out of the HD collection. I loved that game.

    And their reasoning was because they thought people only cared about SH2 and SH3..


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    I still say they probably couldnt find the code for SH.
    They couldnt find finished code for SH2 for petes sake.

    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    I'm sure I've discussed this with you before, but MGSCollection is top tier, up there with the best, but it was done by Bluepoint who has done GOW,ICO/Shadow etc
    Konami should have just used them for Silent Hill too
    As for games on disc, isn't MGSHD 22GB on the PS store?
    Thou it does have DD & DTS I believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chulo View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wya4XhTPMcc&feature=plcp

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxYkNUyBhS4&feature=plcp

    so far I blame dvd 9, and because it is multiplat konami didn't want to pay royalties for dual disks.
    I've only watched the first part, but damn, that's terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    I know, but it was still wrong. Carmack is a programmer not a business man, willets does the business side of the company, and he cleared this up pretty quick.

    Microsoft has not and never has charged per disc royalties.
    I was under the impression that it simply cost the publisher more to go with more than one disc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadside View Post
    I was under the impression that it simply cost the publisher more to go with more than one disc.
    Correct, you have print and burn a 2nd disc, that's cost of manufacturing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksite View Post
    I've only watched the first part, but damn, that's terrible.

    I think I'm just going to make an ice tea and watch part 2 right now :P
    they are pretty lengthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    I'm sure I've discussed this with you before, but MGSCollection is top tier, up there with the best, but it was done by Bluepoint who has done GOW,ICO/Shadow etc
    Konami should have just used them for Silent Hill too
    As for games on disc, isn't MGSHD 22GB on the PS store?
    Thou it does have DD & DTS I believe

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    You cleared up the programming part where I asked if they left stuff out of the games and they didn't, but its still a poor Collection because they shouldve included a voucher for MGS1, its not a Collection without the greatest of the series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chulo View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wya4XhTPMcc&feature=plcp

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxYkNUyBhS4&feature=plcp

    so far I blame dvd 9, and because it is multiplat konami didn't want to pay royalties for dual disks.
    So glad I didnt buy this collection lots of things missing that make up the atmosphere

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    Quote Originally Posted by robvandam111 View Post
    Didn't MGS4 almost used around 50gb
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    I still say they probably couldnt find the code for SH.
    They couldnt find finished code for SH2 for petes sake.



    Agreed, BTW, I hate Vamp I cant kill the bastard.
    Ya got grenades? or grenade launcher?
    if so shoot them in the water when he is taking a swim
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    Quote Originally Posted by robvandam111 View Post
    I believe it all depends on the Blu-Ray disc. Didn't MGS4 almost used around 50gb which obviously had the online features and other specials? If the the disc can go that far then you add atleast 3-6 games.
    No its didn't, but its was 324 x 100MB compressed achieves which was about 33gb
    Something "some" tend to not mention
    And I don't think Kojima wanted anything compressed, hence he said it was too big for 50gb BD
    The game was big, but I suppose if they downgraded it, it could have fitted on a 25gb BD or 3 DVD9's

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