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    Insomniac has theories as to why Resistance wasn't Sony's Halo

    Resistance was big, but never as big as Halo, and Insomniac CEO Ted Price has his theories as to why the shooter never became a juggernaut for Sony the way Halo did for Microsoft.

    Speaking with Kotaku, Price said one of the team’s theories is due to the changes made to the series with Resistance 2 development.

    “We have theories internally about why Resistance wasn’t a Halo,” he said. “One is that we changed the game a lot in Resistance 2, and we surprised players in a way that perhaps wasn’t what was expected. And that may have not been a good thing. By changing up some of the core mechanics and— we got a lot of strong feedback when we did that.

    “On Resistance 3, we went back to some of our more traditional core mechanics that players did love, and then built a story that was more personal. That in our opinion was the way to move the franchise forward in a way that was unique for first-person shooters.

    “We’re really proud of Resistance 3. The team felt very personally connected to Resistance 3.”

    Price also said the reason Insomniac didn’t develop Resistance for Vita, was due to the studio not having “the bandwidth to move onto the Vita.” Therefore, Sony handed off development duties for Resistance: Burning Skies to Nihilistic.

    “We were really happy that Nihilistic went ahead and created their own vision of Resistance, and we feel very close to the franchise cause we created it, but it’s always interesting to see what other people do with it,” said Price.

    “I thought that what they did with the game made a lot of sense, in terms of the decisions that they came to with their core mechanics. So I felt like it stayed true to the universe… [but] frankly, I was spending a lot more time playing our own games.”

    Insomniac’s next release is Ratchet & Clank: Q-Force, also known as Ratchet & Clank: Full Frontal Assault in the US. The firm is also working on FUSE – the game formerly known as Overstrike.
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    Resistance wasn't Sony's Halo because it's a different kind of FPS. If any games have a chance at claiming that title it's Warhawk/Starhawk or Dust...The former 2 didn't accomplish that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost-Rhayne View Post
    Resistance wasn't Sony's Halo because it's a different kind of FPS. If any games have a chance at claiming that title it's Warhawk/Starhawk or Dust...The former 2 didn't accomplish that...
    I know people who don't own one Halo game but own all the books in the series. No other game has the cultural impact that Halo has right now. The only comparisons would be something like Star Wars. I love Resistance but it was never even close to being a Halo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost-Rhayne View Post
    Resistance wasn't Sony's Halo because it's a different kind of FPS. If any games have a chance at claiming that title it's Warhawk/Starhawk or Dust...The former 2 didn't accomplish that...
    Warhawk/Starhawk dont even hold a candle to Halo. And neither did Resistance and I seriously doubt DUST 514 will either especially with what 343 has been doing so far. Resistance had mediocre graphics, weak online and the campaign was very lackluster. Thats why Resistance sold horribly and why Insomniac dropped it regardless of any sorry excuses and PR statements they might make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    Warhawk/Starhawk dont even hold a candle to Halo. And neither did Resistance and I seriously doubt DUST 514 will either especially with what 343 has been doing so far. Resistance had mediocre graphics, weak online and the campaign was very lackluster. Thats why Resistance sold horribly and why Insomniac dropped it regardless of any sorry excuses and PR statements they might make.
    I know, I mentioned all of the above games more due to the more open nature of the maps as well as the inclusion of vehicles. Halo was in the right place at the right time and really captures the essence of online play in a lot of ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost-Rhayne View Post
    I know, I mentioned all of the above games more due to the more open nature of the maps as well as the inclusion of vehicles. Halo was in the right place at the right time and really captures the essence of online play in a lot of ways.
    Oh ok I gotcha. Sorry I misunderstood you on that.

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    Star Wars is the only franchise that has anything that would pit against the Halo franchise.




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    Killzone is Sony's Halo and not only that KZ is better than Halo.

    I'll take gritty, top notch graphics and gameplay over the cartoon look of the Halo weapons and jumping around arcade style gameplay any day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TDbank24 View Post
    Killzone is Sony's Halo and not only that KZ is better than Halo. I'll take gritty, top notch graphics and gameplay over the cartoon look of the Halo weapons and jumping around arcade style gameplay any day.
    lol Looking at the sales and the online activity of both games its safe to say that most people outside this forum fantasy world would disagree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdbank24 View Post
    killzone is sony's halo and not only that kz is better than halo.

    i'll take gritty, top notch graphics and gameplay over the cartoon look of the halo weapons and jumping around arcade style gameplay any day.
    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    lol looking at the sales and the online activity of both games its safe to say that most people outside this forum fantasy world would disagree with you.
    hmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDbank24 View Post
    Killzone is Sony's Halo and not only that KZ is better than Halo.

    I'll take gritty, top notch graphics and gameplay over the cartoon look of the Halo weapons and jumping around arcade style gameplay any day.
    Agree. I've played Halo/s and I find them utterly boring. I just can't get into them. Now that isn't saying they are bad, obviously they aren't, the sales figures and reviews prove as much, but for me personally they are boring games (As are all FPS)

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    there is only one halo....thats why sony doesnt have one lol

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    I knew someone was going to shoot back with the sales argument so i guess i'll respond with this then.

    Gran Turismo 5 is clearly much better than any game in the Forza series since the sales are through the roof for GT5 while Forza sales trail behind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TDbank24 View Post
    I knew someone was going to shoot back with the sales argument so i guess i'll respond with this then. Gran Turismo 5 is clearly much better than any game in the Forza series since the sales are through the roof for GT5 while Forza sales trail behind.
    You convienently ignored online activity. KZ online activity was so poor that Sony had to make the KZ3 mp portion a free download. Not surprised though since I've read alot of complaints across the net from KZ fans talking about the almost non-existent online community. So if KZ is so much better than Halo why were there so few people playing KZ3 online? Example of one of many across the net. http://community.us.playstation.com/.../td-p/31007739
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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    You convienently ignored online activity. KZ online activity was so poor that Sony had to make the KZ3 mp portion a free download. Not surprised though since I've read alot of complaints across the net from KZ fans talking about the almost non-existent online community. So if KZ is so much better than Halo why were there so few people playing KZ3 online? Example of one of many across the net. http://community.us.playstation.com/.../td-p/31007739


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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    You convienently ignored online activity. KZ online activity was so poor that Sony had to make the KZ3 mp portion a free download. Not surprised though since I've read alot of complaints across the net from KZ fans talking about the almost non-existent online community. So if KZ is so much better than Halo why were there so few people playing KZ3 online? Example of one of many across the net. http://community.us.playstation.com/.../td-p/31007739

    People don't buy a PS3 to play games online. They buy one for the best single player experiences and then they play online with it. PSN is just a bonus to most PS3 owners.

    Killzone wasn't a launch title like Halo. It's never going to have as strong a following as Halo does. It's like comparing Mario to Blinx.

    The PS3 has more exclusives overall to choose from. So gamers are moving from one game to another at a rapid rate. Unless it's called Call of Duty it's probably not being played on the PS3 with regularity like the shooters on the 360 are. Halo, Gears, and Call of Duty.

    The 360 gets less releases per year which leads to gamers sticking to the few releases that do get released.

    So it's a combo of things that keep Killzone from really thriving. If Sony shipped it in a green box it would sell just as many copies as Halo or more. That's a given.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TDbank24 View Post
    People don't buy a PS3 to play games online. They buy one for the best single player experiences and then they play online with it. PSN is just a bonus to most PS3 owners. Killzone wasn't a launch title like Halo. It's never going to have as strong a following as Halo does. It's like comparing Mario to Blinx. The PS3 has more exclusives overall to choose from. So gamers are moving from one game to another at a rapid rate. Unless it's called Call of Duty it's probably not being played on the PS3 with regularity like the shooters on the 360 are. Halo, Gears, and Call of Duty. The 360 gets less releases per year which leads to gamers sticking to the few releases that do get released. So it's a combo of things that keep Killzone from really thriving. If Sony shipped it in a green box it would sell just as many copies as Halo or more. That's a given.
    Oh please. Best sp experience is subjective and if people dont buy a PS3 to play online then why has COD sold more copies than any PS3 exclusive? Also Halo wasnt a launch title for the 360 and lastly its really hard to take anything you say seriously here when you say stuff like this over on TXB. http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread...8#post13783818
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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    Oh please. Best sp experience is subjective and if people dont buy a PS3 to play online then why has COD sold more copies than any PS3 exclusive? And secondly its really hard to take anything you say seriously here when you say stuff like this over on TXB. http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread...8#post13783818
    I think he's right to an extent (i'm referring to online).

    COD sells because it's COD - marketing, name brand. I'm sure there are just as many people who buy cod for the sp. And yeah, they'll jump on to play mp for a while. but im sure the majority (read: not all) do not use it for mp gaming as a the major driving force.

    i agree with the notion that it's a bonus.

    meaning that people do play, but not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    Oh please. Best sp experience is subjective and if people dont buy a PS3 to play online then why has COD sold more copies than any PS3 exclusive? And secondly its really hard to take anything you say seriously here when you say stuff like this over on TXB. http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread...8#post13783818
    that cant be him seriously....?

    funny stuff, i assume hes being sarcastic with his posts on here then?
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    I too have read that KZ was supposed to be Halo killer. That would have been a good thing...competing in the game space like that would generate even more unique experiences for the consumer. That said, KZ ended up being a linear game that looks good. Halo ended up being an open world game that looks great.

    That said, they are both totally different games and I enjoy them both.

    As for Resistance, I did get a Halo feel from the character set and aliens. But the overall feel of the game did not feel like a Halo. I don't think Insomniac was trying to make Resistance a HALO. I think they wanted just HALO success.

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    I personally don't like Halo at all. I pretty much hate it, but I can see that it is quite popular compared to Killzone and Resistance.

    KZ2 & 3 are not as popular as they should be because of some bad decisions that were made by Guerilla.
    Having server browser as the only means of playing KZ2 online for the most part killed it(along with majority of the maps designed for lot less people than the game supported). It eventually boiled down to two choices: 32 people radec games, or a different game altogether.

    KZ3 went in the wrong direction by adding the capture spawn points, and becoming lot more casual friendly.

    Resistance 2 made similar mistakes by making the wrong changes for the sake of change.
    Insomniac does not need to tell us what we already know.
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    Halo was iconic. Resistance wasn't. My two sons have all kinds of Halo action figures even though my oldest was one and my youngest wasn't born when the original game came out. Now consider that both played Resistance long before we owned a 360. There is no theory to contemplate. Rad said it and he is right. Resistance wasn't in the same league as Halo.

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    Halo has a huge huge story, it has a rich backgorund, it has different factions, it has a history to the storyline.

    The fact that Halo MP turned out to be so much fun was a bonus.

    That you can read up and delve into the back story of Halo so well, its quite an amzing universe to find youself in.
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    Halo has the "it" factor, I have no idea what it is, but its certianly got it in spades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Halo has the "it" factor, I have no idea what it is, but its certianly got it in spades.
    Yup, it just appeals to a lot of people. To clarify my other post, i wasn't knocking Halo. I just feel Killzone is a more polished and authentic experience that fits my needs as a gamer.

    Halo is cool because it has mass appeal. Humans vs. Aliens with the mega hero who saves the world time and time again. And like you said the multiplayer is fun and easy to pick up and play. It definitely has the it factor.


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