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    BS, period.

    Tomb Raider and Hitman look ace

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    TR looks ok but doubt it'll beat the classics.
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    In reference to the title, isn't that how it is with almost all games? Very few games have been incredible in the recent years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    In reference to the title, isn't that how it is with almost all games? Very few games have been incredible in the recent years.
    Why do so many people say this kind of thing? I don't know what people mean when they say a game is incredible. I've played many games that I have thoroughly enjoyed in the past 3-4 years.

    This is not a personal attack at you Sufi I'm just being general. Are people that picky these days? Do games have to be 100% perfect and always have massive innovations? I'd like to say I'm not ranting but I kind of am.

    What IS it that people want out of these games? I'm a bit surprised The Last of Us isn't on that list. Post apocalypse setting is the most cliche setting I can think of yet people are going nuts over this. Why?

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    I don't really care for hitman. Tomb raider I'll get in the bargain bin. Next year is all about Beyond, Aliens, TLOU and bioshock infinite. MGRising will get a look aswell. I have the most hype for Dust 514, Aliens and Bioshock atm.

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    They can not be serious?
    Tomb Raider and especially Hitman look fantastic and are highly anticipated
    But then again they're not Call Of Duty
    No wonder the press is giving good games bad reviews for stupid reasons if those look average to them

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    Quote Originally Posted by podsaurus View Post
    Why do so many people say this kind of thing? I don't know what people mean when they say a game is incredible. I've played many games that I have thoroughly enjoyed in the past 3-4 years.

    This is not a personal attack at you Sufi I'm just being general. Are people that picky these days? Do games have to be 100% perfect and always have massive innovations? I'd like to say I'm not ranting but I kind of am.

    What IS it that people want out of these games? I'm a bit surprised The Last of Us isn't on that list. Post apocalypse setting is the most cliche setting I can think of yet people are going nuts over this. Why?
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    i think this gen has lasted a bit too long. it pretty much describes the attitudes being seen.

    as you say, TLOU is somewhat clichéd. compared to what though? every game now is brown-gray gun shooter where ammo comes in copious amounts. TLOU mixes it up a little. Lara is an old girl in new boots. TLOU is new and exciting(refer to the graph again, its quite diverse in its application)
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    Tomb Raider looks completely average? ROFL....not sure what they are smoking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    Tomb Raider looks completely average? ROFL....not sure what they are smoking.
    Because she has an avg size chest and body ratio. They want a bimbo with guns. Maybe they should play lollypop chainsaw lol. IDK These games all look good to me and yet I wouldn't say ANY have been overly hyped. Not like the marketing campaign that AC3 has. We actually just saw a release of a majorly hyped franchise that was completely avg. and they didn't mention it....perhaps because its been bashed to death but RE6 completely fits this article. Huge budget/franchise but watered down because they had no direction in gameplay. It was like they didn't know what direction to take so they went in all directions and got nowhere. I much rather would prefer get one game style and have a consistant experience through out. Love it or hate it that is fine but don't give me a couple good levels and a bunch of crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davin_g View Post
    Because she has an avg size chest and body ratio. They want a bimbo with guns. Maybe they should play lollypop chainsaw lol. IDK These games all look good to me and yet I wouldn't say ANY have been overly hyped. Not like the marketing campaign that AC3 has. We actually just saw a release of a majorly hyped franchise that was completely avg. and they didn't mention it....perhaps because its been bashed to death but RE6 completely fits this article. Huge budget/franchise but watered down because they had no direction in gameplay. It was like they didn't know what direction to take so they went in all directions and got nowhere. I much rather would prefer get one game style and have a consistant experience through out. Love it or hate it that is fine but don't give me a couple good levels and a bunch of crap.
    Actually I am surprise they didn't mention RE6, because the reason this article is saying those games are average is the same reason RE6 is
    Watch the reviews for those 2 games when they hit
    TR will be a Uncharted clone that has lost its way and Hitman will be too hard and too much content with not enough stealth, which has lost its way
    Mean while......[insert yearly release game here ] gets tens across the board for innovation and originality

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    Actually I am surprise they didn't mention RE6, because the reason this article is saying those games are average is the same reason RE6 is
    Watch the reviews for those 2 games when they hit
    TR will be a Uncharted clone that has lost its way and Hitman will be too hard and too much content with not enough stealth, which has lost its way
    Mean while......[insert game] gets tens across the board

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    If uncharted is a tomb raider clone wouldn't that mean the new tomb raider is cloning itself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier 95B View Post
    If uncharted is a tomb raider clone wouldn't that mean the new tomb raider is cloning itself?

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    I think when most people say the new TR is like Uncharted, they are referring to the fact that Crystal Dynamics is going with a more cinematic approach (not just CGI, but even through gameplay.)

    Saying Tomb Raider is a clone of Uncharted is just as stupid as saying Uncharted is a clone of Tomb Raider.

    I've played the old Tomb Raider games and I've played Uncharted. I did not feel like I was playing TR while going through Uncharted. Uncharted's focus is different. Tomb Raider never focused on presentation like it is now before Uncharted though.. (so there was influence.)

    Just not gameplay wise. I haven't played the new TR obviously.....but we'll see how it plays when it releases.
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    You can argue that the theme is similar (Drake and Lara both are treasure hunters, etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    You can argue that the theme is similar (Drake and Lara both are treasure hunters, etc.)
    And that's pretty much where the comparison ends

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    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    I think when most people say the new TR is like Uncharted, they are referring to the fact that Crystal Dynamics is going with a more cinematic approach (not just CGI, but even through gameplay.) Saying Tomb Raider is a clone of Uncharted is just as stupid as saying Uncharted is a clone of Tomb Raider. I've played the old Tomb Raider games and I've played Uncharted. I did not feel like I was playing TR while going through Uncharted. Uncharted's focus is different. Tomb Raider never focused on presentation like it is now before Uncharted thought.. (so there was influence.) Just not gameplay wise. I haven't played the new TR obviously.....but we'll see how it plays when it releases. --- You can argue that the theme is similar (Drake and Lara both are treasure hunters, etc.)
    There are some TR influences in Uncharted but like you I never felt like I was playing TR when I was playing Uncharted. All games borrow something from previous other games. No big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by podsaurus View Post
    Why do so many people say this kind of thing? I don't know what people mean when they say a game is incredible. I've played many games that I have thoroughly enjoyed in the past 3-4 years.

    This is not a personal attack at you Sufi I'm just being general. Are people that picky these days? Do games have to be 100% perfect and always have massive innovations? I'd like to say I'm not ranting but I kind of am.

    What IS it that people want out of these games? I'm a bit surprised The Last of Us isn't on that list. Post apocalypse setting is the most cliche setting I can think of yet people are going nuts over this. Why?
    THIS!
    The standards have gone way up for some people and they refuse to buy anything that is less than a 9/10. I hated the hitman series, but the absolution trailers and stuff made me buy the entire collection on steam

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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi73378 View Post
    THIS! The standards have gone way up for some people and they refuse to buy anything that is less than a 9/10. I hated the hitman series, but the absolution trailers and stuff made me buy the entire collection on steam
    This generation has bred alot of nit picky self entitled "gamers" who live and die by the scores on Metacritic instead of thinking for themselves. I think rather than just have fun with a game that they do actually buy they play through it looking for any flaw to complain about under the guise of being a "discerning gamer" or having "higher standards." Alot of reviews this gen are written by people like that imo.

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    I only buy the best cause I like to be fancy....lmao

    However I agree a lot of games I play don't get great scores like the dynasty warrior games they always get 6 or 7's however I love all of them? Its a fun game and I enjoy the stories...sue me lol

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    Well I'm yet to play the Grand Theft Auto III of this gen so yeah, quality has definitely taken a dip with some of the bigger franchises this gen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    This generation has bred alot of nit picky self entitled "gamers" who live and die by the scores on Metacritic instead of thinking for themselves. I think rather than just have fun with a game that they do actually buy they play through it looking for any flaw to complain about under the guise of being a "discerning gamer" or having "higher standards." Alot of reviews this gen are written by people like that imo.
    This is the truth.

    I've played plenty of fantastic games this gen. Some games that I find to be very enjoyable have gotten mixed critical reception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    Well I'm yet to play the Grand Theft Auto III of this gen so yeah, quality has definitely taken a dip with some of the bigger franchises this gen.
    If you haven't even played it then how do you know that its low quality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    There are some TR influences in Uncharted but like you I never felt like I was playing TR when I was playing Uncharted. All games borrow something from previous other games. No big deal.
    That's the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sufi View Post
    That's the point.
    Yes I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radgamer420 View Post
    If you haven't even played it then how do you know that its low quality?
    Played what? I just haven't played anything that's up there with GTA3, MGS3, FFX etc. of last gen (other than maybe Bethesda's stuff).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronSOLDIER View Post
    Played what? I just haven't played anything that's up there with GTA3, MGS3, FFX etc. of last gen (other than maybe Bethesda's stuff).
    Oh ok. It sounded like you were including GTA in the category of big series that have become low quality even though you hadn't played it. Anyway my bad if I misunderstood.

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